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^ Agreed. And of course some of these incidents happened at his house with his kids there. But if you're traveling and want to have a private meeting, what choice do you really have but to hold it in your hotel suite?

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I can't stand Morrissey or The Smiths lol, but I mean.. people are going to have different opinions, especially men.. most experience society from such a dramatically different standpoint apparently that, I've found out, it's so hard for them to even relate to what women are talking about.. I see this among my male friends too, men in their 20s/30s, they do not quite relate to how hurtful or gross or diminishing harassment can be in even random contexts, they don't relate to the feeling that a fight is not even an option and it is another gender that is stronger and historically more violent. This is also a man that hasn't worked in an usual work environment and professional structure, he's spent like 4 decades of his life in a specific scene where women and men would literally lick his shoes for no reason other than a song he sings, and even after saying what he said, they will continue to do it.. anyone that goes to shows or is kind of a fanatic on musicians has seen this.. so nearing 60, he's not going to change his mind and he's speaking from personal experience.

I think journalists are just fishing for controversy when they keep going after people of the same generation for feedback... they know it's not going to be any different or suddenly empowering. They've been conditioned by society and field to pretty much be the same. Why don't they ask someone in his late teens? someone that's still giving a lot of thought on what's acceptable or not? because they'll get something more or less rational and won't have a story..

Moving on, I'm super bummed about Charlie Rose.. of all people..

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Morrissey was well out of order to say what he did, but truth be told I'm more interested what the likes of Harry Styles and Taylor Swift think about this. Not because I care about them, but they have such a vast reach. Oftentimes silence speaks volumes, in this case, not in a good way.

What I am beginning to notice is somewhat of a tide.... people are getting bold to either openly target the victims or whitewash the scenario. Not just Morrissey, Brigitte Nielsen basically called Sylvester Stallone's accuser a liar. The jerk from Gossip Girl also called his accuser a liar, and William H Macy practically said when Harvey wasn't molesting women, he produced good movies! A few more and Hollywood will be ready to welcome Weinstein back! It happened to Polanski and Allen, why would he be any different.

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Let us hope the world has changed since Polanski and Allen, we shall see ...

It's time to be done with generational excuses. Waiting for ignorance to die out simply doesn't work. No one gets a pass, everyone's consciousness needs to be raised. Speak truth to ignorance and privilege, and hold them accountable. Almost 60 is both way too young and way too old to be an idiot. Look at Charlottesville ... those were young people I saw carrying torches. Neither youth nor age guarantees anything.

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A few more and Hollywood will be ready to welcome Weinstein back! It happened to Polanski and Allen, why would he be any different.
I agree with you that this will very likely happen. With Weinstein and the other sexual predators. Hollywood is just appalling.

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Men’s magazines are surprisingly silent on Hollywood’s sexual misconduct

By Post Staff Report
November 27, 2017 | 1:04am

Talk about getting caught with your pants down. Exposés on predatory perv Harvey Weinstein have unleashed a tide of lurid allegations against some of the most powerful men in showbiz and politics, from Kevin Spacey and Charlie Rose to Al Franken and John Conyers. So what do the highest-profile men’s magazines have to say on the subject? Not so much, it turns out.

GQ likes to style itself as a beacon of liberal moral authority, so we had guessed that the December/January issue would suit up for a takedown of the famous predators among us. Instead, Editor-in-Chief Jim Nelson churns out yet another of his pearl-clutching columns about President Trump.

Completely ignoring seamy sex allegations that have engulfed Democrats and Republicans alike, Nelson takes his Chicken Little routine with Trump to a new level. Every morning, “I run to my phone to see if the republic is still standing,” Nelson sweatily confides, “to see if [Trump] has summoned the nukes from North Korea out of their locust sleep.”

Esquire Editor-in-Chief Jay Fielden at least manages not to miss the fact that American males are caught in the middle of an historic reckoning over sexual misconduct. Nevertheless, he elects to dwell not on Weinstein, but on Hugh Hefner. Suffice it to say, a gentleman who reads Esquire might question the propriety of kicking a man in his grave, or even call it cowardly.

But after admitting he pawed and ogled Playboy centerfolds like a “Gollum” when he was 13, Fielden insists that he promptly “grew up,” and has, ever since, been woke to the tribulations of “friends, colleagues, girlfriends, wives, sisters, daughters and mothers” who have suffered at the hands of “adolescent narcissists” like Hefner.

“It’s imperative that open secrets don’t become another excuse for closing our eyes,” Fielden writes in a workmanlike conclusion, finally getting around to the subject of Weinstein. But after reading so many lines about Hefner, as well as deplorable “satyrs” like Wilt Chamberlain and Charlie Sheen who boasted about bedding women by the thousands, you get the impression Fielden is only lately waking up to the finer points of the issue.

Elsewhere, both magazines have pieces on John McCain — painting the US senator in a decidedly independent light. Nevertheless, both also seem to plead, “Look at us — we write about conservatives, too!”

GQ calls Colin Kaepernick “Citizen of the Year,” in an article that’s heavily sympathetic — unaccountably so, some might argue — to the former NFL quarterback who has been all-but-blackballed from the league after jump-starting the kneeling controversy.

We’re guessing one or both of these magazines will eventually get around to in-depth, 3,000-word features on predation in Hollywood and politics. But their current mumbling and stumbling just doesn’t look smart.
Source: NYpost.com

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