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06-03-2012
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This is terrible. One of the reasons I'm not a fan of NYFW.

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when I read the story, I thought that from now on the models would have to sign a contract in which they agree not to write about their work in facebook or twitter or a blog. But with girls like that one will not be necessary:

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Model Would Just Like To Say She Really Enjoyed Working Unpaid For Marc Jacobs

Hailey Hasbrook ó a 17-year-old new face model who worked over 30 hours for Marc Jacobs during New York fashion week while the designer styled his collection, and who is just one of the many runway models Jacobs doesn't pay ó has written a response to our earlier story. It reads in part:

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First I want to set one thing straight, I loved working and doing looks for Marc Jacobs. I was actually one of the favorite jobs I have had so far. Everyone there were absolutely amazing and awesome to work with. It wasn't like I was non-stop trying clothes on for a full 9 hours. There were many times where Marc and Camille were going over other things. I had many breaks where I could go and lay on the couch, read, or just relax. They took really good care of me there. All I had to do was ask if I needed anything. There was plenty of food and drinks there the entire time. They were all very understanding, flexible and accommodating.

I actually preferred to be paid in trade. I love everything that I got, and it was well worth it. There was an entire room filled with clothes and shoes that I was asked to choose from. Everything was amazing.

I feel like the authors of these blogs tried to remake my entire post and make it seem that I was slamming the company. As I said, it was a lot of fun. I enjoyed my time there, and I would do it again in a heartbeat. I am not and was not complaining one bit about it at all. I hope that everybody can see and understand that I meant no harm by those posts and that this will help clear everybody's mind of any false beliefs that were put there by Jezebel or any other posts that may have mentioned me in them.
It's of course good to know that Jacobs and company treat their models well while they're working. He still didn't pay her.
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Is Hasbrook scared of possibly ruining her chance in the industry now or did they really take her comments that out of context? Probably a little of both, but I lost all respect for her for in her obvious over-praise of Marc and company in that statement, stand up for yourself girl!

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Well to be fair to Marc, Birkin bags, man skirts and porn stars don't pay for themselves.

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Is Hasbrook scared of possibly ruining her chance in the industry now or did they really take her comments that out of context? Probably a little of both, but I lost all respect for her for in her obvious over-praise of Marc and company in that statement, stand up for yourself girl!
To be fair, her original blog post was also gushing about how much she enjoyed the experience.

When did MJ stop paying for look books anyway? Who else is doing that?

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^I think the question is did her ever pay for lookbooks... or anyone else for that matter.

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To be fair, her original blog post was also gushing about how much she enjoyed the experience.
That was my read as well, I made very strong comments about how I felt about Marc Jacobs not paying models for shows and working as fit models but that was based on the objective information presented in the article, but the model's tone about the experience, even in the original article was positive and enthusiastic, for example:
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"Doing looks means that I am kind of like a live mannequin in a way. They try all the garments and looks on me to put together what they are going to use for the show...Despite the long hours it was actually a lot of fun."
The writer from Jezebel, who extracted passages from Hailey Hasbrook's Tumblr, probably knew she was onto something juicy because as I stated previously these things have been discussed and rumored about for quite some time - I have read about it on tFS (in the model pay thread IIRC), so the Jezebel writer basically extracted from Hailey's Tumblr, contacted her and asked additional questions and wrote an article, but the headline and slant of the article is the Jezebel writer's not Hailey's.


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Not all designers act in the same manner as Marc Jacobs. The going rate for a new face back in 2003/2004 was a thousand a day. I would hope that this rate has gone up and that most designers pay their models for looks. Much is wrong with the way young models are treated and I would hope that the union for models that is being organized will help remedy this type of gross behavior.

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what Jacobs and others in NY are doing is totally unacceptable but what about her agency? i think they should take a lot of the blame too
she's completely new to the business and underage so i think it's their duty to protect her, also i suppose that they set her schedule or agree to extend it..
and not only she works unpaid for a designer but also she owes money to her agency!

about Hailey's response, probably her agency told her to do that and she's just 17.. i bet all of us were that naive at her age too!

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But what keeps me thinking now; is the new launched Model Alliance going to take action against the case? It is defnitely something that adresses the organisation's purposes and definitely something to debate about.
i'm very interested to know that too, they definitely should do something about it.

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UGH! I hated reading this and hated it even more that we seemed more concerned about it than the industry itself.

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09-03-2012
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lol she basically sucked up loads trying to cover up her blog post, she is obviously scared and now she walked louis vuitton....

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And how does this relate to the grand editorial fees for models at Vogue, where they get like on the order of $300 while the photographer gets, what, 100-1000 x that amount for the same photo shoot.

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And how does this relate to the grand editorial fees for models at Vogue, where they get like on the order of $300 while the photographer gets, what, 100-1000 x that amount for the same photo shoot.
maybe because the photographer actually makes the photograph happen?

those girls starting out in the industry know that when they do a show for a very big designer and put it on their resume, or walk into a casting wearing designer clothes, people will think more of her ability then if she walked for some non high fashion brand for 10,000 a day. so if the model is set to be a high fashion model and work on getting very high profile and high paying gigs, there are some things she needs to suck in along the way.

why designers prefer to pay in trade than in cash? because it is a business, and if they can do it, they will. everyone is on a budget. even if your past 10 collections have been super successful, you don't know whether the next one will.

no one forces models or anyone else freelancing to do a job. don't compare it to wages, because this is not a job. if models want a stable job, then can go get one. for every model who complains about it, there will be 100 who will be happy to do it.

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Something that should be considered is the value of the clothes that the models get in exchange. If the clothes they get are valuable and they have a way to sell them, getting paid in trade actually might not be so bad.

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This is what disgusted me about the actitude of people in the fashion industry "if you don't want to work, there's a lot people behind you that would kill for what you doing" Seriously, this can't happen anymore. The models sometimes have to left studies to work and get pay. Money Jacobs, they not eat clothes.

And yes, sometimes (sometimes) this sacrifices have fruits, but you need to consider that the models (specially in Marc J. castings) are almost children. The parents are guilty too, they need to demand more.

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