The Model & Celeb Weight Thread [Read post #1 before posting] #1

[sethii]

Originally Posted by KhaoticKharma

Just because she comes anatomically correct doesn't mean she has a womanly body.

ETA: Models with out hips aren't womanly. Doesn't mean they aren't women, just means they aren't womanly, considering the vast majority of women DO have hips, and traditionally "child bearing hips" have been one of the first things associated with femininity.

To cut off certain body types from this 'womanly' category seems harsh. Even if the vast majority have noticable hips shouldn't mean they alone can be described as womanly. I think you should use a different term, like 'curvy'.

[xmodel citizen]

^ Well, more prominent hips have always been associated with femininity. It's also an anatomical fact that women have wider pelvic bones in proportion to their bodies than men do. From what I remember,that's how you can distinguish a female skeleton from a male skeleton.

[*Bianca*]

Originally Posted by sethii

To cut off certain body types from this 'womanly' category seems harsh. Even if the vast majority have noticable hips shouldn't mean they alone can be described as womanly. I think you should use a different term, like 'curvy'.

'Womanly' is an adjective that has been around for a long time. It's just like when people describe a guy's physique as very 'masculine' - having broad shoulders etc. And like when small-hipped women are described as having 'boyish' figures.

The definition of 'womanly' itself admits that it's a generalization: "Having qualities generally attributed to a woman.". So, of course, in regards to figures there are going to be exceptions that are left out. It doesn't mean that women who don't have a 'womanly' figure are any less of a woman, they just don't have the figure that is most common to women.

[xmodel citizen]

^ Exactly!

It's neither a character judgment nor a critique. It's simply a statement of the fact that a female may or may not have the physical attributes commonly found in women.

It's proven that women have different bodies than men. Our skeletons are built differently, in different sizes and proportions and our fat is distributed in different areas. Our skulls are also built differently, and women tend to have less vertical cheekbones and a rounded jawline. It's not a bad thing to have strikingly high cheekbones or no hips, it's just not "womanly".

[Carrme]

here we go.. on the Dr. Keith Ablow show Janice Dickinson was tehre with her two guys the maeup and hairstylist and they cleary said the models are supposed to look like hangers cause thats how clothes look best.
hm

[primaballerina]

Originally Posted by ruthie

^Yeah, I am 5' 11.5" [though, I have small bone structure] and when I "hit puberty" or w/e I gained 15 pounds but only went from a size 2 pants to a size 4. It made almost no difference whatsoever. & most of the tall people I meet are either of the extremes, super thin or fat. LIke any other height, it just depends on habits and genetics.

hi Ruthie, i noticed you said you're 5' 11.5" and a size 4, me too! hehehe okay i know that was a little off topic, but i had to say something .

but yeah, my story is similar to yours: i used to be that slim 0/2 pant but then towards the end of high school (when puberty really finally hit for me) i filled out and now i'm a size 4 pant ( im not trying to imply that a 4 is by any means large, im simply saying its fuller than the way i used to be)

[AriellaV]

Haha, me too! 5'11.5, size 4. Except I used to be at a normal weight, definitely not too skinny but not chubby either. So not everyone that's tall is 'abnormal'. :P

[ShoeGal4Eva]

i just cant comprehend that 12 grapes a day diet.i think any person will just collapse from deficit of enenrgy eating just that,especially if its for a few days.
i think that girl is being a bit too dramatic in the articcle(cleo).t just doesnt seem possible to me

[seanutbutter]

I don't understand what dictates a 'real body' or 'womanly figure.' To me, a 'womanly figure' is any figure that any woman has--it shouldn't be limited to one certain size or shape.

[TheGlassAngel]

^ Karma

[KhaoticKharma]

Originally Posted by xmodel citizen

^ Exactly!

It's neither a character judgment nor a critique. It's simply a statement of the fact that a female may or may not have the physical attributes commonly found in women.

It's proven that women have different bodies than men. Our skeletons are built differently, in different sizes and proportions and our fat is distributed in different areas. Our skulls are also built differently, and women tend to have less vertical cheekbones and a rounded jawline. It's not a bad thing to have strikingly high cheekbones or no hips, it's just not "womanly".

Ahhh, someone who understands what I was trying to say (you too *Bianca*)! Thank you.

[BaroqueRockstar]

^i feel even more like a man now

[pale green witch]

Originally Posted by ShoeGal4Eva

i just cant comprehend that 12 grapes a day diet.i think any person will just collapse from deficit of enenrgy eating just that,especially if its for a few days.
i think that girl is being a bit too dramatic in the articcle(cleo).t just doesnt seem possible to me

But Cleo Glyde *did* say that she collapsed from her diet!

[MadameX]

I like your Sylvia avatar pale green witch :-)

[Bernice]

Originally Posted by gia0202

mot women that size have a waist 4 inches smaller. she looks boxy--but that is ok.. cuz many fabulous women have boysih frames. but her waist was pro aly brutal to cut around unless the dress was real loose in the torso. its odd. karl doesn;t mind when girls are bigger, since it designs don't require it. he used anja before she lost weight. loved claudia schiffer when she was over 140 and a size 8. i think it depends on the girl.

i agree with you. youll find if the designer loves the model he will use her no matter what.. looka t eugenia, elise crombez.. etc.