The Model & Celeb Weight Thread [Read post #1 before posting] #1

[Day]

I can't see the difference between Chanel and Kim -- if anything, Chanel seems to weigh less (to me).

[iluvjeisa]

Chanel has a very slender build - she might fill out more later but unless she develops an overeating problem it seems likely she will rather effortlessly retain her weight. She has the genetics for the job as it's currently described. There's nothing wrong about her, and her face most definitely isn't fat, she's just fortunate enough to have great cheekbones.

[Carrme]

I guess I should check out kims thread befor ei judge..but those two pics make her look tired, sick and drugged..too much partayin

[superFashion]

Kim has lost a bit to much weight for my taste.








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[tellme_MAS]

there's a certain sadness about those pictures of kim noorda. she looks kind of neutral like she's working because she has to since it's her source of money and meanwhile she's wasting away.

[KhaoticKharma]

Originally Posted by Day

I can't see the difference between Chanel and Kim -- if anything, Chanel seems to weigh less (to me).

Me too... I thought I was seeing something different than everybody else. I am a sixteen year old girl and out of a high school with 1,000+ students, more than half of them girls, I don't know ANYONE who is that thin (and the vast majority of girls at my school are geneticly odd anyways, most of them being over 5'7). Its just too suspicious for my liking.

Regarding what Meg said: Yes, there are countless African/African-American/Afro-English girls that are tall and gangly... I've seen loads at the mall and such. But Chanel has always said she wanted to be a model, even when she was little.

[xmodel citizen]

Originally Posted by brokenenglish

isn't sort of said your knees shouldn't be the thickest part of you legs?... your thighs should.

Yes, that disturbs me so much! I find it so odd and disgusting to look at. It also creeps me out when their elbow is larger than their upper arm. Natural or not, that defies anatomy.

[marylauda]

brokenenglish I read that article too, unfortunately I don't have a scanner. It freaked me out and has made me want to start exercising.

I remember back when Kim was still small but still had enough weight to make her look radiant. She was so beautiful. She still is, but her weight loss is very frightening.

[marylauda]

She used to look so amazing...


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[TheKiwi]

I think she still looks beautiful, despite the weight loss. She still has a glow to her, amazingly... But she did look much better before!

[kuba01]

Can anyone please scan the editorial in an Australian magazine called NW about "stars with ED" or something like that? It had Chloe Latanzi on the cover amongst others...

[marylauda]

Originally Posted by TheKiwi

I think she still looks beautiful, despite the weight loss. She still has a glow to her, amazingly... But she did look much better before!

Yes, I still find her to be incredibly beautiful but I think it is very sad to see the boom in her career go hand-in-hand with her weight loss.

[marylauda]

Here is the article that brokenenglish was talking about:

Fat Thin People
by Rory Evans

"Flesh. Muusshh. Bone." Such describes the sensation of squeezing the upper arm of a fashion model, according to Oscar Smith, a personal trainer in New York City. Of course, to anyone just looking (and not squeezing), these models would seem to have won the body-type trifecta: tall, thin, willowy limbed. "Oh, it’s pretty mush,” clarifies Smith, who specializes in training runway and swimsuit models. “But man, is it all mush.”

Thing of it as “skinny-fat”. If afflicts those women who regard size 0 not as an existential riddle, but as a wardrobe staple. Perhaps they starve themselves into this muscle-free state. Perhaps they were just born into it, pointing to the little twigs on the family tree known as Mom and Grandma. Perhaps they eat whatever the hell the want and still don’t gain weight— and last used their gym ID cards to break the stubborn stay-fresh seal on a jar of Smuckers hot fudge. Whatever the cause, skinny-fat means having a low body weight coupled with a high body fat percentage and not so much muscle mass.

When Hollywood starlets appear skinny-fat, it inspires Internet ridicule; on sites like theskinnywebsite.com, devoted to “celebrity weight, diet, body, and exercise gossip,” anyone with a screen name can toss in their two misspelled cents about important matters such as what’s-her-face’s little toneless tapered doll’s legs or so-and-so’s asslessness. When a friend is skinny-fat, it’s more likely to trigger jealousy (and, OK, speculation of bulimia; how else can she put away so much food without gaining an ounce?). But what seems like a blessing can, in fact, be a curse—since health risks such as osteoporosis, diabetes, high blood pressure, and heart disease come with a high body fat percentage, even if the woman doesn’t look like any sane person’s idea of overweight.

“During fashion week, I went to a bathing-suit show and I was shocked,” recalls trainer David Kirsch, owner of the Madison Square Club in Manhattan and author of The Ultimate New York Diet (McGraw-Hill). “At one point, a beautiful, skinny model was coming down the runway, and I audibly gasped—people turned around and looked at me—because she had absolutely no muscle tone. She had cellulite from the top of her knee to her ***.” The model might have been able to strut the catwalk, but Kirsch points out that a lot of skinny-fat women “can’t walk four blocks. It’s a vicious cycle. They pride themselves on not putting on weight, and muscle weight more than fat, so they will not exercise since they’ll put on weight and they’re obsessed with the scale.” Ellie Kreiger, a registered dietitian in New York City, has seen plenty of women like this. “I had one client who was so weak and undernourished, she passed out on the city bus while trying to lift her kid. These women come to me and they’re very, very thin, and they wonder why they keep getting sick and their energy is through the floor,” says Krieger, author of Small Changes, Big Results (Clarkson Potter). “You can technically lose weight by just stopping eating, but when thinness like that is the only goal, then you can be in trouble.”

Cate, a stylist who splits her time between New York City and southern California, made a troubling finding a few years ago. She had recently lost 30 pounds without exercising, mostly by eliminating sugar (“when you stop eating cheese quesadillas with a Coke or two at every meal, it’s impossible not to lose a lot of weight,” she notes). After a health club opened in her neighborhood—“I do love the promise of a brand-new, spotless gym,” she say—she signed up and got a free fitness evaluation. During the session, the trainer brought out the body-fat-content calipers and pinched her thigh. “That’s when I though, Why is she making those faces? Good or bad?”

Bad, as it turned out. Despite weighing a healthy-looking 129, Cate was 37.5 percent body fat. (The recommended range for women ages 18 to 39 is 21 to 32 percent body fat, according to Shape Up America, a nonprofit organization founded by former Surgeon General C. Everett Koop.) Two years later, Cate went to another gym; again, the trainers puzzled over the machine’s results. “One of the trainers saw the reading, said it was broken, changed its batteries, and it was still the same,” she says. “I became totally obsessed with it. I then became the person who would go behind the counter at the gym so I could grab the machine and test myself.”

She recounts the moment that looked like rock bottom: “I was in California and I’d lost all hope. I took myself to Curves to work the circuit with the 70-year-old grannies. During the first session, the lady weight me and did my body-fat content, and I was 37.5 again! I was standing there in my size 4 being told I’m overweight by a woman in a size 14.”

Some avid gymgoers are unwittingly perpetuating their situation, according to trainer Ashley Borden in Hollywood. “If you do cardio above your maximum target heart rate for over 20 minutes in one session, you are burning muscle,” she says. “I see this quite frequently with people who Spin. They have no muscle tone other than their quads.” Borden had one client who came to her at 112 pounds and 30 percent body fat, “and she didn’t understand why she had so much body fat because she did Spinning five times a week.” Borden recommends wearing a heart-rate monitor to regulate fat burning and replacing some cardio workouts with strength and core exercises. The unexpected benefits of such weight training is feeling invigorated: “When I started kickboxing, it was hard,” says Laura, a 27-year-old psychiatry researcher. Now, “I feel as if I can kick some ***, which is an empowering thing.” Of course, this challenges the notion that so many non-skinny-fats have of the 98-pound weakling: Isn’t a little lameness a small price to pay for the honor of weighing 98 pounds?

Believe it or not, the skinny-and-bony would be happy with a little muscle. One day, Claire, a 33-year-old producer, poked her butt cheek to assess the muscle tone. “My finger just sank into the skin and nearly disappeared. There was no muscle. Then I flexed my butt, and God, that was even worse. It looked so dimply.” She knows she should exercise for her long-term health, but in the right-now, she has no incentive: “Does anyone really like working out?” she asks. “My friends only do it to lose weight. But I don’t have to do anything to fit into a size 2. So I look great in clothes, and kind of blobby out of them.” During the New York City transit strike in 2005, she was forced to walk to her office. “It was about a half-mile, hardly a trek,” she says. “The next day, my legs were on fire.” At least she was better off than Emily, a 33-year-old in Rochester, who joined a gym in the hope of boosting her energy: “I felt like such a loser—I was dying during the workout,” she says. “That evening, I literally could not get off the couch. I had to call in sick for the next three days.” And she hasn’t ventured to the gym since.

Lots of skinny-fats have a similar experience on the rare occasions when they make an effort to eat healthier. Tricia, 27, is five foot ten and a size 4, and her diet often consists of Chinese takeout, spaghetti Bolognese, and, on weekend, bar food such as burgers, wings, and potato skins. “After a ‘fat fest,’ as my husband calls it, I’ll start thinking that I’ve overdone it and am going to have a heart attack, so I go on a salad kick for a few days,” she says. “The week before my wedding, I was so bloated from all the salads and fruit that I went back to the foods I knew wouldn’t upset my stomach—chicken fingers and fries. That’s what I ate two hours before walking down the aisle.”

Generally, given the freedom from calorie counting, skinny-fat women eat whatever tastes good—with not so much as a Maraschino cherry’s worth of misgiving. “I make a hot fudge sundae with Ghirardelli chocolate and Breyer’s and yup, Reddi-wip almost every night,” Says Cindi, who, after two kids, wears an Abercrombie size 00. Alycia, 25, has been known to eat slices of Granny Smith apples...but only as a way to convey an entire wedge of Brie to her mouth. Krieger once had a client, a dancer in her 20s, who subsisted mainly on Twizzlers. Kriger advised scaling back on the licorice while introducing novel foods such as egg whites and asparagus (shaped like a Twizzler, anyhow), and, lo and behold, the dancer had a lot more energy. “When you’re single and on your own and having fun, you have to remember that you’re in charge of nourishing yourself,” Krieger says. Or, perhaps more to the point, “even Holly Golightly ate breakfast.”

For all the procrastinate gym trips and delayed nutritional responsibility, plenty of these women have a particular fear that dances like sugarplums in their heads: that some day, all of it will catch up with them in a scary way. “If I don’t get my act together, I’m going to be skinny but totally screwed. My cholesterol level is already 279, and it shouldn’t be over 200,” Claire says. And despite Cindi’s nightly dose of calcium in the form of her sundae, she worries about osteoporosis, since “I have all the qualifications to get it—small, thing, Caucasian, not a lot of exercise. The irony is that if I were overweight, I would definitely find the time to work out.” Indeed Krieger notes that thing women with poor nutrition and little exercise are the most apt, later in life, to be stooped and bent by osteoporosis—“with spines like 90-degree angles.”

A more pressing concern for many Is becoming a big, round 360 degrees, maybe when a hummingbird metabolism nose-dives the day you turn 30 or after pregnancy. “I’m terrified that one day it’s all going to end, and I will have to give up all the junk food,” Tricia admits. Vida, 39, a lawyer in D.C. who’s “never met a cupcake I didn’t like,” used to be so naive about weight struggles that, when she spied a lacy, biker short looking garment on her friend’s bed, she had to ask what it was. A girdle, she found out—“only to be accused of flaunting my skinniness,” she says, “But I went on to make a bigger blunder by asking, ‘Your thighs though? Each other? How?’” Three kids later, she has an inkling: “My mother never lost her pregnancy weight, and that lingered in the back of my mind as the one time I would need to be concerned about weight.” After her third pregnancy, she has eight extra pounds that will not budge. “I need to get to the gym, but don’t have the unflappable confidence that I can whip it back into shape,” shay laments. “It appears as though my body has finally said, ‘I’m done.’”

She still has ice cream daily, however, because “I’m not used to remembering that I’m supposed to be getting rid of this roll in my stomach.” The revelation about this new lifestyle—this nagging worry—weights far more heavily than the actual pounds. “It makes me realize how hard it would have been for me to spend the past 38 years struggling with this issue,” she says. “Who knew?”

Allure April 2007

[Karin]

Originally Posted by CharlottefromCA

Sadly I think if Stam didn't lose her weight she would be where Marija Vujovic is now.. lost in the continous wave of new 15 year girls.

What's up about Marija Vujovic? Did I miss something about her?

Haven't seen her in ages... Have I just missed her, or has she gone for a special reason?

[Karin]

Thanks for the article! The best inspiration ever to make me wanna excercise!