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Chanel looked good at VS, but you notice they were careful to cover up her torso.

As far as cup sizes go, last year one of the models said she had three! 'chicken cutlets' filling up her normally fashion-size cups. That is better than having small implants put in (like some have).

 
 
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Yeah who says lingerie/swimsuit models have to have 'sexy' figures the way most of you interpret sexy? Who says that is what is sexy in the first place? Being of a feminist bent I find it somewhat offensive to womanhood in general - that implication that what makes a woman feminine or sexy is big boobs, wide hips and a butt. I really don't see why anyone should have a problem with Chanel at VS. As I may have mentioned before I really hate her as a model but she looks healthy and good at the shows, she has the right energy. Not everyone is going to find her build sexy but I'm sure some people must, for her to even be in the shows and to be such a successful model and even get lingerie campaigns. I'm basically just reiterating what others have said here but I'd rather see a girl whose body is totally unattainable to the average woman, but who looks natural and healthy, than one who says she works her butt off for hours a day to become some kind of ideal beauty standard/object to stare at.

 
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I think the problem with Chanel's body is that it really doesn't appeal to the target audience. VS put some pictures of her in the VSFS on their facebook and about 90% of the comments were about how she looked anorexic. Not exactly the message you want to be sending to your consumers. On the other hand, most comments towards bodies like Behati's and Adriana's were positive. The contrast is so astonishing lol. One photo of Adriana and everyone is like GORGEOUS HOT SEXY, and then the next of Chanel and people are wondering how she managed to hold her wings up and not snap in half and saying things like EWW, EAT, too skinny!

And to be honest, I don't really blame them. Her legs look scary.
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fb...47.79775744089


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I think the problem with Chanel's body is that it really doesn't appeal to the target audience. VS put some pictures of her in the VSFS on their facebook and about 90% of the comments were about how she looked anorexic. Not exactly the message you want to be sending to your consumers. On the other hand, most comments towards bodies like Behati's and Adriana's were positive. The contrast is so astonishing lol. One photo of Adriana and everyone is like GORGEOUS HOT SEXY, and then the next of Chanel and people are wondering how she managed to hold her wings up and not snap in half and saying things like EWW, EAT, too skinny!

And to be honest, I don't really blame them. Her legs look scary.
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fb...47.79775744089
Well.. I found the anorexic-comments harsh and disrespectful. If she always has been that skinny, then so'll ben it and she is healthy. On the other hand I thought she was misplaced to, because VS stands for me as sexy and curves and HF as skinny but also beautiful.

and about Edita, i think the guy a couple posts under that photo is right, sometimes it's like a witch hunt in here.

 
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i think chanel's body is fine but yeah it's not meant for lingerie.

 
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[QUOTE] If she always has been that skinny, then so'll ben it and she is healthy.
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Hmmm not that I'm into anatomy, but i once read in my class book that the human body tends to put on a few stones with growing older. There was written it wasn't possible to not gain "hip measurement" in puberty. But i think they only reffered to the offscum/aliens outside Bryan Park - since fashion people got a different bone structure, different metabolism and more brain than people who don't deal with fashion. They simply have different genes. High fashion Models don't age phisically, and they skip over puberty, don't they? My nutritionist Rachel Zoe confirmed that.

 
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i think chanel's body is fine but yeah it's not meant for lingerie.
Umm, I hope that's just a typo and you meant modelling for lingerie, since I'm pretty sure skinny girls aren't all meant to go commando

I hated Chanel's Rosa Cha ads because she looked like a desperate sexed up little girl in those, but for VS and especially for Pink I find her perfect. She's fun and over the top and VS really needs models like her in the show. I find it horribly lame of VS to have her in the show and trying to cover her up with ugly jumpsuits, though.

I didn't really see a difference between Chanel, Anja, Edita and all the other girls in the VSFS. They're all skinny and most probably underweight except for maybe Adriana (with her post-pregnancy weight) and Candice. If you're going to be shocked by skinny models then at least be consequent. How can people hate on Chanel for her skinnyness but praise Magda for her hot body when she's just as skinny? Just because she's gained a few pounds recently doesn't mean she's healthier and normal weight all of a sudden.

 
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I think the problem with Chanel's body is that it really doesn't appeal to the target audience. VS put some pictures of her in the VSFS on their facebook and about 90% of the comments were about how she looked anorexic. Not exactly the message you want to be sending to your consumers. On the other hand, most comments towards bodies like Behati's and Adriana's were positive. The contrast is so astonishing lol. One photo of Adriana and everyone is like GORGEOUS HOT SEXY, and then the next of Chanel and people are wondering how she managed to hold her wings up and not snap in half and saying things like EWW, EAT, too skinny!

And to be honest, I don't really blame them. Her legs look scary.
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fb...47.79775744089

Doesn't it? The strategy seems to work, they are using this type of girls again. VS is not in the business of having status as opposed to clients.
I think no one is going to dispute that Adriana Lima has the better body for conventional standards , but that doesn't mean I want someone with her style and demenour selling me lingerie. I would way more easily buy something Anja was wearing, or even Chanel (and i really do not like her ) than Adriana.
This idea that all women want or (even should) want to look "super hot" and hyper feminized it's quite offensive, I totally agree with wetsleeves.

 
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Karolina doesn't look very healthy to me at the moment


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She looks awful. I actually recoiled in horror when I saw those photos of her. You can see it not only in those legs but in the hollowness of her face.


It's almost like she's paying everyone back for the uproar last year when all those sick, delusional people were calling her fat.

 
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Something that often confuses me when reading this thread:

I dont understand the general attitude towards the thinness of models, due to something which seems to be a huge contradiction. In one breath, it is the general consensus to declare that emaciated figures are unhealthy, unattractive and 'unacceptable'. Yet on the other hand, i frequently hear the term 'she got lucky in the genetic lottery' applied to the girls who actually possess these exact same, overly thin physiques. This looks like a pretty weird contradiction, to me, and i wish someone could explain it.

Basically, who is to say what is ideal, or 'lucky' in terms of a genetic lottery? the outlook on that would have been dramatically different a decade ago...and likewise in M. Monroe's time.

It is like saying that an emaciated looking model is somehow a bad thing, yet at the same time declaring her lucky, enviable, etc. Perhaps the media has twisted our brains to this extent, that the contradiction has become almost second nature to us now, an acceptable conundrum. I dont know.


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Doesn't it? The strategy seems to work, they are using this type of girls again. VS is not in the business of having status as opposed to clients.
I think no one is going to dispute that Adriana Lima has the better body for conventional standards , but that doesn't mean I want someone with her style and demenour selling me lingerie. I would way more easily buy something Anja was wearing, or even Chanel (and i really do not like her ) than Adriana.
This idea that all women want or (even should) want to look "super hot" and hyper feminized it's quite offensive, I totally agree with wetsleeves.
Are you sure? If you read the facebook page with the comments towards Chanel I'm sure you'd beg to differ. Just because they are using her constantly doesn't mean the strategy is working. VS is known to just drop girls as quick as you can finish this sentence. (Marisa, Lindsay, Emanuela were all girls who were used prominently.)

I'm not saying women need to be sexed up all the time and look like Adriana Lima, but most women do not look like Chanel and cannot relate to her. How many women are 5'10", have non existent hips, big boobs, and skeletal legs?


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What I find interesting are the comments about VS celebrating curves. I do not see this at all. The girls have always been skinny,aside from their boobs (which are enhanced by the bras).

 
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I'm not saying women need to be sexed up all the time and look like Adriana Lima, but most women do not look like Chanel and cannot relate to her. How many women are 5'10", have non existent hips, big boobs, and skeletal legs?
And that makes it OK for people to hate on her?
Even if her body type may not be very common, it does exist and I know quite a few girls and women who look like that. Whereas I can't think of anyone around me who has Candice's perefct hourglass figure.

 
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Are you sure? If you read the facebook page with the comments towards Chanel I'm sure you'd beg to differ. Just because they are using her constantly doesn't mean the strategy is working. VS is known to just drop girls as quick as you can finish this sentence. (Marisa, Lindsay, Emanuela were all girls who were used prominently.)

I'm not saying women need to be sexed up all the time and look like Adriana Lima, but most women do not look like Chanel and cannot relate to her. How many women are 5'10", have non existent hips, big boobs, and skeletal legs?
Perhaps it is a timing thing, but when I went to the page linked, by far the majority of the comments were positive, yes, there were several negative comments but it is a significant minority not an overwhelming majority (I would copy the comments over, but I am too lazy to edit out the names). This page also explains perfectly why Chanel Iman is at VS, of the pages that I browsed, this page by far has the most comments and also has the most likes, it has 800+ likes, and IIRC the next highest likes were in the 500s. Also, of the pages that I saw and based on my quick scan of the comments, proportionally, two other models received more negative comments about their bodies.


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