[FashionCapital]

I'm sorry, but the Christ Redeemer? Hagia Sophia was robbed.

lol, I wrote a paper on the Ancient Wonders~

[FashionCapital]

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Originally Posted by Tinetush ^I'm not that impressed by it. But maybe that is because I have yet to see it IRL... I'm so very glad, Petra made the list Also a list without the great wall of China would have been wrong, though I don't think anybody doubted that it was supposed to be there... Though I would have loved to tee the Hanging Gardens o fBabylon, It must have been an amazing sight.

The Great Wall and the Pyramids are seriously the two most amazing things made by man.

[seanutbutter]

^ Definitely. I can't think of other structures that live up to them.

[leyla m.]

this list is a shock...
i agree with the egyptian officials who said it was a disgrace to even have to compete with the others! i mean, please, the pyramids of ghiza are an incredible and amazing part of history.. so are many other previous wonders of the world that are no longer on the list.
this just shows how the people are changing over time to not have recognised the oldies

[bluebutter]

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Originally Posted by cocohokkaido Personally, I would love to see Babylon's Hanging Gardens existing today. Even the name conjures up a beautiful and mythical place. I'm thrilled that China's Great Wall made the list, though!

I was thinking the same thing about the Hanging Gardens. I would love to go back in time to see that as well as the Colossus at Rhodes.

I'm not quite sure how I feel about the new seven wonders (Christ the Redeemer?) Although now, I'd really like to go see Machu Picchu and Petra.

[FashionJunkie]

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Originally Posted by I_Want_That_One i'm actually glad that they created a new list..the first one seemed really biased towards Ancient Greece and the new one acknowledges other civilizations as well. About time imo.

You do know who Ancient Greeks were?

- They invented democracy
- Everything in medicin is in greek (every word), father of Medicine is Hippocrates
- When people tried to survive, they were writing philosophy
- When people used to kill each other, they created masterpieces
- Math, Astronomy all started from ancient Greece
- They created the Olympics, which is not just a competition, it's the global union and the promotion of the healthy and friendly competition (eugenis amilla)that spurs a person to improve his own performance.

They were the best civilization and no one will ever take their place.

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Originally Posted by FashionJunkie You do know who Ancient Greeks were? - They invented democracy - Everything in medicin is in greek (every word), father of Medicine is Hippocrates - When people tried to survive, they were writing philosophy - When people used to kill each other, they created masterpieces - Math, Astronomy all started from ancient Greece - They created the Olympics, which is not just a competition, it's the global union and the promotion of the healthy and friendly competition (eugenis amilla)that spurs a person to improve his own performance. They were the best civilization and no one will ever take their place.

Calling them the best civilization is ludicrous. Egypt, Mesopotamia, India, and China also had MANY achievements. Also, it was obviously biased towards Greeks--the Greeks wrote it! Besides, they had never seen the wonders outside of the Mediterranean. Also, please double check on your facts--math didn't originate there. Also, without the advances of the Egyptians, Greeks would'nt have been ANYWHERE in medicine.

Hagia Sophia was ROBBED! So was the Angkor Wat!

[PrinceOfCats]

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Originally Posted by FashionJunkie They invented democracy

Athens 'invented' the word democracy: several democracies had existed before Athenian democracy.

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Everything in medicin is in greek (every word), father of Medicine is Hippocrates

The medical treatise of the last centuries, which formed 'medicine', were written in Latin, as a lingua franca: Medical science owes a lot more to them than to Hippocrates.

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When people tried to survive, they were writing philosophy

Every ancient civilization wrote 'philosophy', Western culture happens to value Greek philosophy above others.

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When people used to kill each other, they created masterpieces

Greek sculptures are regarded as masterpieces in the Western tradition of art history (though they are largely only known through Roman copies): other traditions attach no importance to them. Not to mention that the states of ancient Greece did their fair share of killing.

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Math, Astronomy all started from ancient Greece

The Middle East, actually.

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They created the Olympics, which is not just a competition, it's the global union and the promotion of the healthy and friendly competition (eugenis amilla)that spurs a person to improve his own performance.

The Greek Olympics haven't existed for over a thousand years. The modern Olympics were set up in France.

You should maybe think about how you might be a little biased...

[xmodel citizen]

Christ the Redeemer? Seriously? I mean, it's nice and has a great placement in Rio but it's not that amazing. The Statue of Liberty is not only taller but is made of copper rather than concrete and stone like CTR. Neither should've made the list IMO, they're nice but inconsequential. I highly doubt anyone in history will remember them as being so completely wondorous.

And I just googled Angkor Wat (I'd never heard of it before) and it is amazing!

[seanutbutter]

Since we've touched the subject several times now:

If you all were to create your own New Seven Wonders of the World list, what would you include?

I would likely include the Grand Coulee Dam for both its incredible size (all the pyramids at Giza could fit in its base) and purpose (largest electric power producing facility in the United States).

[sethii]

They shouldn't include anything built by slaves!

[SomethingElse]

Perhaps the list could have attended to the wonders that Nature has created, instead of structures made by people. The Himalayas, Antarctica, the Great Barrier Reef, the Asian Steppes, the Sahara, the Amazon, the Nile. The sun, the stars, the earth, water, life, flowers, wind. 'Nuf said.

[misssakura]

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Originally Posted by sethii They shouldn't include anything built by slaves!

So we'd only have bridges and the empire state building..maybe the tour d'eiffel...although those workers weren't exactly treated that brilliantly either.

[FashionCapital]

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Originally Posted by PrinceOfCats Athens 'invented' the word democracy: several democracies had existed before Athenian democracy. The medical treatise of the last centuries, which formed 'medicine', were written in Latin, as a lingua franca: Medical science owes a lot more to them than to Hippocrates. Every ancient civilization wrote 'philosophy', Western culture happens to value Greek philosophy above others. Greek sculptures are regarded as masterpieces in the Western tradition of art history (though they are largely only known through Roman copies): other traditions attach no importance to them. Not to mention that the states of ancient Greece did their fair share of killing. The Middle East, actually. The Greek Olympics haven't existed for over a thousand years. The modern Olympics were set up in France. You should maybe think about how you might be a little biased...

Karma for you!

My Seven Wonders (non-natural):

1. Banaue Rice Terraces
2. Great Wall
3. Angkor Wat
4. Great Pyramids of Giza
5. Taj Mahal
6. Machu Picchu
7. Hagia Sophia

[anapaula]

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Originally Posted by xmodel citizen Christ the Redeemer? Seriously? I mean, it's nice and has a great placement in Rio but it's not that amazing. The Statue of Liberty is not only taller but is made of copper rather than concrete and stone like CTR. Neither should've made the list IMO, they're nice but inconsequential. I highly doubt anyone in history will remember them as being so completely wondorous. And I just googled Angkor Wat (I'd never heard of it before) and it is amazing!

Ever been there? I am not religious myself but it makes me emotional. It is nice to see Brazil being recognized for something...