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Okay, so instead being decided upon by people with backgrounds in history, art, and architecture, it was voted upon by the (generally ignorant to the extreme) public?
So the "ignorant", common people shouldn't be given the right to vote, is that it what you're saying? It should be a prerrogative of the supposedly well-informed cultured experts, is that it? Oh dear...

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^^ Yeah. I also feel bad for places like Angkor Wat in Cambodia that were beat because they didn't have the publicity machine and money of industrialized nations (ahem, Brazil).

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As if that could make any difference.

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I'm pretty sure that someone on here mentioned that Brazil had a great marketing campaign and mobilized people to vote. Obviously countries with those sorts of resources just might have an advantage over countries where there are a million other things more important than the list.

And yeah, I don't think it's bad for people with decades of experience in fields like history, archaeology and anthropology to make the decisions.

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^You took the words out of my mouth!

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I'm pretty sure that someone on here mentioned that Brazil had a great marketing campaign and mobilized people to vote. Obviously countries with those sorts of resources just might have an advantage over countries where there are a million other things more important than the list.

And yeah, I don't think it's bad for people with decades of experience in fields like history, archaeology and anthropology to make the decisions.
The United States and France have the same resources at hand and The Statue of Liberty and The Eiffel Tower didn't win.

The beauty of this voting was exactly the fact that it wasn't made by experts, who would probably have chosen The Eiffel Tower or even The Louvre (if it was on the list) instead of some of the places that eventually won. I'm pretty sure many of those votes came from people who have been to those places and are as qualified as anyone else to cast a vote. The person who first came up with the idea probably didn't want to make it an elitist list and for that I salute them.

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The US and France probably didn't do a campaign because there are far more important issues in each country respectively.

Do you really think people who've devoted their life to history and culture would make an uninformed decision? I trust the judgement of individuals with advanced knowledge and expertise vs. people who just look and say "pretty".

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You've got to be kidding me.

The voting system for this was so obviously flawed that I'd be surprised if anyone with more than two braincells would take this list seriously.
Couldnt agree more...let's stop perpetuating this, pretend it doesnt exist and hope it will be forgotten. It's an embarassment, really...and as Boluda says, a sin.


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^^I never said they'd make an uniformed decision. But I believe that it doesn't take an expert to know what's beautiful in the world. I trust myself and my eyes to choose what I think are the seven greatest, most amazing monuments in the world, I don't need an expert to tell me what's nice to look at and what's not.

And thanks for indirectly stating that my country doesn't have more important things to do rather than campaigning for Christ the Redeemer.

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Obviously there are more important things, which is what makes it ridiculous. Melisande and others are right, the voting was a horrid idea. I mean, the Great Pyramid is arguably THE greatest architectural acheivement in the history of mankind and it's an "honorary" wonder. Craziness!

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Obviously there are more important things, which is what makes it ridiculous. Melisande and others are right, the voting was a horrid idea. I mean, the Great Pyramid is arguably THE greatest architectural acheivement in the history of mankind and it's an "honorary" wonder. Craziness!
Obviously, and yet you seem to believe that my country has only this voting to care about. And by the way, the Piramids are hors concours and that's why they're an honorary wonder. It'd be nothing but a disrespect to its history and importance to put it alongside the other monuments.

I'm sorry but you guys sound like a bunch of snobs.

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I mean, the Great Pyramid is arguably THE greatest architectural acheivement in the history of mankind and it's an "honorary" wonder. Craziness!
The Great Pyramid of Giza was named an honorary wonder because it was on the Ancient Seven Wonders of the World list. You can read more about it here.

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^^It's not snobbery to believe that some things hold more historical value than others. A brush fire in a small town will obviously not have the same impact as an earthquake that kills thousands and ruins an entire metropolitan city. And historical value and "wonder" CAN be measured IMO.

^ That makes absolutely no sense! I love how the Egyptians said it was a conspiracy, maybe it was

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In Brazil there was a campaign Vote no Cristo (Vote for the Christ) which had the support of private companies, namely telecommunications operators that stopped charging voters to make telephone calls to vote.[17] Additionally, leading corporate sponsors including Banco Bradesco and Rede Globo spent "millions" of dollars in the effort to have the statue voted into the top seven.[1] Newsweek reports the campaign was so pervasive that:
“One morning in June, Rio de Janeiro residents awoke to a beeping text message on their cell phones: “Press 4916 and vote for Christ. It’s free!” The same pitch had been popping up all over the city since late January—flashing across an electronic screen every time city-dwellers swiped their transit cards on city buses and echoing on TV infomercials that featured a reality-show celebrity posing next to the city’s trademark Christ the Redeemer statute.[1]
By early July, around 10 million Brazilians had voted in the contest.[1]
Does anyone else find that really creepy?

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PS, I didn't mean to offend anyone with the last comment :p

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So the "ignorant", common people shouldn't be given the right to vote, is that it what you're saying? It should be a prerrogative of the supposedly well-informed cultured experts, is that it? Oh dear...
You're taking that statement WAY out of context!

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