Roisin Murphy : Lady Gaga stole my look!

[Fashionturnip]

I hate when people like Gaga get to a certain level and break a barrier into mainstream because so many people have to assume its all down to 'the machine'. & her being told what to do.

How can you not take into account all those youtube videos she was doing for 12 months before 'just dance' even took off. Trying to get her name out there. She started at a grass roots level and built a fanbase. I remember listening to Just Dance back in September 08 and it wasnt number 1 until this year.

they didnt KNOW she would make it, she just kept plugging away, and she was fortunate enough to have a big label to let her make all these 'gagavision' videos.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-cx55NpKu4

I do think its a different story now she has found success, I think NOW is the time the image makers and the style evolution people will be saying 'you should do this, you should do that' ect ect. Whether she will listen remains to be seen.

& all i can say about the copying Roisin Murphy, is if Roisin pulled the stick out of her *** and made great pop music like Gagas---about fame, money glamour, dancing then she'd be in Gagas position now anyway. I always think Roisin had a snobbery about her that kind of made her want to avoid the 'mainstream'....altho i do love her music.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlFjf1pWk2c

AMAZING!

[leyla m.]

²fashionturnip,
not sure if the above was directed at me.
i know through a source about gagas background and indeed, she has got tremendous talent. the gaga though we see today is what made her famous and is the result of good management and PR her image plays a massive part in it.
since we are in the rumour thread i will also allow myself to say that the main reason i do not like gagas style and think its nonsense, is because it is so 80s inspired but her music isnt.
actually that was my very first reaction once i was able to put a face to her music... it just does not make sense to me.

[Filipe]

Originally Posted by leyla m.

i know through a source about gagas background and indeed, she has got tremendous talent.

This has to be sarcasm

[ckashie]

^ Actually, I agree. Listen to her performing acoustic and it's obvious that she has an amazing singing voice. Far better than Britney, Rihanna or Pink. And she was a piano prodigy as a child and has studied it for most of her life.

[retailqueen]

I understand being a fan of her antics and out there style but it is every naive to think that she doesn't have a huge team behind her.

ANY artists that sells millions of records and gets their videos/songs played on TV and Radio receives a huge push from the record companies. Gaga or Britney, those who especially relie on image would have every single outfit, interview vetoed before it's aired to the public.

It's all about money, and with amount of money that people have puit into gaga i really really doubt she is free to act how she wants to. Unless her daddy is a record company exec. even then...

and she has no talent: no spectacular voice, cannot dance, not a musician and no star power sans the gimmicks.

I will never get her.

[Fashionturnip]

leyla_m - no, it certainly wasnt directed at anyone in particular

Having reread what I wrote I wasnt very clear. I was implying she is very talented, and it isnt down to her 'team'. Roisin Murphy always had potential to step into something huge and global...but GaGa beat her to it.

& even if people dont like her singing voice they can't deny she plays the piano WELL!

retailqueen--I agree to some extent about having a huge team, but I think predominantly Gaga says what she wants to wear. She is obviously a hugely creative person, so I cant see her being lazy enough to just wear something because she was told to.

[Jacque Marcel]

Gaga's music reminds me something Paris Hilton would do. Sex, money, fame, boys, partying, dancing? No wonder she's a hit with teenage girls and gay guys. Roisin isn't as forced or calculated as gaga.

[Scott]

Originally Posted by Fashionturnip

I hate when people like Gaga get to a certain level and break a barrier into mainstream because so many people have to assume its all down to 'the machine'. & her being told what to do.

How can you not take into account all those youtube videos she was doing for 12 months before 'just dance' even took off. Trying to get her name out there. She started at a grass roots level and built a fanbase. I remember listening to Just Dance back in September 08 and it wasnt number 1 until this year.

they didnt KNOW she would make it, she just kept plugging away, and she was fortunate enough to have a big label to let her make all these 'gagavision' videos.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-cx55NpKu4

I do think its a different story now she has found success, I think NOW is the time the image makers and the style evolution people will be saying 'you should do this, you should do that' ect ect. Whether she will listen remains to be seen.

& all i can say about the copying Roisin Murphy, is if Roisin pulled the stick out of her *** and made great pop music like Gagas---about fame, money glamour, dancing then she'd be in Gagas position now anyway. I always think Roisin had a snobbery about her that kind of made her want to avoid the 'mainstream'....altho i do love her music.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlFjf1pWk2c

AMAZING!

roisin doesn't make great pop music? i think roisin makes some of the best pop music. it isn't generic,it isn't redundant...it doesn't sound like somebody else's. and as marcel says,not contriving. as far as their music is concerned...no comparison,really. i really think roisin is just a cut above gaga as an artist. i mean you listen to overpowered and at first you think it's just another disco influence but once you get into the album it has it's refreshing twists and turns. not to mention the gorgeous ruby blue which was far more composed.

[retailqueen]

Originally Posted by Fashionturnip

leyla_m - no, it certainly wasnt directed at anyone in particular

Having reread what I wrote I wasnt very clear. I was implying she is very talented, and it isnt down to her 'team'. Roisin Murphy always had potential to step into something huge and global...but GaGa beat her to it.

& even if people dont like her singing voice they can't deny she plays the piano WELL!

retailqueen--I agree to some extent about having a huge team, but I think predominantly Gaga says what she wants to wear. She is obviously a hugely creative person, so I cant see her being lazy enough to just wear something because she was told to.

it's not laziness but rather she has no other choice. she isn't an independent artist with her won label that promotes herself with her own money.

She takes order andis fitting into the mold her record company told her. She may agree with having the most outrageous outfits for the most media coeverage, cause she loves attentions, but actually coming up with most of what she wears?

I don't follow her style but from what I've seen there is no way she would come up with that herself, it takes to much time and the outfits too elaborate for one. Second she (like I said) is considered as an investment and I doubt her investors will give her a blank check and let her do what she wants.

This is a Briteny-esque scenraio with someone who is supposed to create and wear these elaborate things by herself? I don't buy it. But the fans want to buy into it, let them. Every generations wants an idol they want to hang onto. I can't get her. People like Grace Jones and Kate Bush are originals and really do their thing. Gaga is so text book to me it's not even funny nor actually entertaining.

[Filipe]

Originally Posted by retailqueen

and she has no talent: no spectacular voice, cannot dance, not a musician and no star power sans the gimmicks.

I will never get her.

Omg exactly, she's a freaking joke that I'm sick of ... compare her to those singers from the 60's or you don't even need to go that far just compare her for example to Sarah McLachlan ... how come she's very talented, is everybody insane? Jesus ...

[strawberry daiquiri]

I'd never even drawn a comparison... although I do kind of see it now. But as far as I'm concerned, Gaga is a caricature... she is definitely wearing these things for show and shock value. Maybe she is as passionate about clothes as Roisin, but it never comes across that way.

It's a pity that Roisin's words have been manipulated and splashed around... it does come across slightly bitter, even though I'm sure in person it was a casual aside.

[LegsXI]

the only thing original about Gaga is that she doesn’t wear pants.

Ahhh I love you Róisín

[CrazyC]

she is not even pretty?
she looks like a man in the face?

[fashion tyger]

some pics

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[fashion tyger]

......and some Roisin Murphy

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