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That's not the worst idea (although it would mean a lot of extra effort for agencies), wouldn't have expected it coming from him, especially since he goes on to talk about the "war between feminists and the industry".
The way he speaks about "feminists" in that article is so telling. The people coming forward are human beings first and feminists second, and as human beings they would like to be able to work without being harassed or sexually exploited. It's not a matter of whether or not you qualify as a feminist, it's a matter of basic human rights. All of those accused celebs & photographers can reassure us a trillion times they never did any harm, as long as they go on to talk about a war between feminists and the industry as though the two were mutually exclusive and feminists had invaded the fashion industry from Mars, nobody will ever believe them, and rightfully so.
I agree. I also strongly suspect that the tragically wasted talent he refers to is ... his own, not that of the many, many models who've been abused and tossed away.

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I think the most surprising thing about the list is how unsurprising those names are. It's like most people in the industry can say, "oh I did hear about some stories about X, Y, and Z at some point or another..."

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NYT has more today, very interesting how they point out that many of these men could easily be accepted back into the industry soon! Stephen Gan waiting for Weber accussations to "blow over", is so gross!!! But another assistant of Testino making this account, really made my skin crawl (especially since these were the exact kinda rumors one would hear about Mario, for years):

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That was around the time Shaun Hartas, then a 27-year-old aspiring photographer, began assisting Mr. Testino.There was nothing quite like getting to work for Mr. Testino, who that very year photographed 10 of the 12 covers of Vogue.

Mr. Testino was smart and charismatic, “the life of every party,” Mr. Hartas said. But it came with a downside.

“I worked for him for 15 months, and for 15 months I was harassed. It never stopped,” Mr. Hartas said. Most mornings Mr. Testino was in New York, Mr. Hartas said that he would pick up Mr. Testino at his apartment building on Bond Street and drive him to set in a Range Rover.

“Every day he would sit in the front and try to grab my” genitals, Mr. Hartas said. “He would ask, ‘Are you straight or are you gay?’ I’d say, ‘Straight,’ and he’d say, ‘No, you have to be nothing. If you’re nothing, you can be everything. The second you label yourself, you limit yourself.’ He would say, ‘Maybe you can come to London and Paris?’”
Mr. Hartas recalled, “It was like there was this lifestyle he’d welcome you into if you gave him what he wants.”

One morning that spring, Mr. Hartas and Mr. Testino were on their way to photograph Sarah Jessica Parker for the August cover of Vogue. According to Mr. Hartas, Mr. Testino was being particularly aggressive. Mr. Hartas asked him to stop fondling him.

He said he was told by Mr. Testino to wait in the car while Mr. Testino did his shoot, and was never booked to work with Mr. Testino again. Two longtime fashion industry professionals corroborated that Mr. Hartas began telling them he was being harassed months before he stopped working for Mr. Testino.
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Oh and forgot to include these accounts, once again, these guys are on the record, with their names, and full accounts. I mean WTF acts like this? What kinda grown man thinks behaviour like this is ok? EVER?!! He is no better than Harvey Weinstein, to me!!!!

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In 2013, the photographer Edward Mulvihill started freelancing for Mr. Testino. “I’d been warned,” he said. “I’d heard the stories going into this. The rumors were all true.”

One of Mr. Mulvihill’s first tasks was traveling with Mr. Testino to Los Angeles, where they were shooting the fall 2013 campaign for Michael Kors and a new cover of Brazilian Vogue featuring Pamela Anderson. “It was kind of a joke among the crew that being the new guy traveling to Los Angeles, you had to stay in Mario’s house the first night, and that you’d better watch out,” Mr. Mulvihill said.

After dinner, Mr. Mulvihill returned to Mr. Testino’s home in the Hollywood Hills. Mr. Mulvihill said he was provided with his own room and his own bed, but “it was Mario trying to get me drunk, Mario trying to kiss me, and Mario trying to jump on me,” he said. “Later, we were riding in an elevator somewhere and he just shoved his hands down my pants and tried to finger me.” Mr. Mulvihill said he was offered full-time work, which he declined. (Like Mr. Hartas, Mr. Mulvihill referred The Times to people who said they were told of this back then, years before allegations against Mr. Testino became public.)

Both Mr. Mulvihill and Mr. Hartas said that they were coming forward about Mr. Testino’s behavior out of solidarity with the initial group of accusers. “I don’t want to see those brave men get discredited,” Mr. Hartas said.
This is just despicable, especially how he concludes that he questioned himself. Very common among victims.

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In 2015, Mr. Testino was back in Los Angeles, and was introduced by an agent to a model named Kenny Sale at a bar.
Much like Mr. Hartas, Mr. Sale said he was also asked repeatedly that evening if was straight or gay. “He kept saying, ‘So, are you into guys?’ and I would say, ‘I have a girlfriend.’ He just brushed that off and said, ‘Maybe you should try something new. Maybe you’d like it.”


Later, Mr. Sale ended up in a bathroom with Mr. Testino. “He just pushes me up against the wall and sticks his tongue down my throat,” Mr. Sale said. “I’d never experienced anything like that. He pressed me up against the wall again, and that time his hand went down my pants, first in the front and then around the back. He used his hand to give me a ‘prostate exam.’”
Mr. Sale said he was asked to drive Mr. Testino home and didn’t know quite how to get out of it. “As I was driving, he unbuttoned my pants and grabbed my penis,” he said. “I guess I could have pulled over, but I had a white-hot feeling going down my spine and I was so embarrassed I didn’t know what to do.”


He still questions himself and said he was also coming forward now out of solidarity with the men who came before him, though he hadn’t met any of them. “I don’t want it to happen again,” he said.
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^This is disgusting, I can't believe anyone would ever act this way.

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God, so Gan is more concerned with when this will 'blow over' so he can get back to his 90's era porno-lite Testino shoots? And can someone tell me how exactly Maria Grazia Chiuri, the self-appointed 'fashion feminist', knows what 'the truth' is that will come out soon? Maybe she moonlights as Templer's assistant and as such would've been present at each and every one of his shoots to know what his conduct is like. There's clearly a sensitivity chip missing here, and for me it's shocking because these two are creatively driven, not suits. Let's not even start with the accused men! It seems not one of them properly apologised to the accusers, that may be a legal directive? And Templer's was your classic example of a non-apology.

In short, I doubt it'll 'blow over' or 'settle.' This sort if thing happened in the past, but we've never had a follow-up feature like this from media outlets such as the NYT. It doesn't look like they're prepared to let this go either, which is good! This must wind up in court! Because the new accuser even went so far as to time-stamp his charges meaning it would be easy for others to corroborate the outline of his claim.


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^ It's hard to imagine an attorney in his/her right mind advising Testino to talk this way.

I agree about Chiuri, and pretty ironic since she's sent all that 'feminist' gear down her runway. Does she understand what it means??

It really is time for the concept of model as coat hanger to go the way of the bustle.

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I agree about Chiuri, and pretty ironic since she's sent all that 'feminist' gear down her runway. Does she understand what it means??
She understands that it means money. That's all that matters and the only reason she made those shirts in the first place. It's disgusting and this attitude towards his outing is beyond that, it's sick.

She knows (well everyone in the industry knows) that many stylists lack empathy and use force (physical or verbal) towards the models. There is a very real problem with abuse by stylists towards models, from the simple body comment (as simple as saying that a part of her/his body is disgusting and should be covered) to forcefully removing clothing/dressing (sometimes because they want a certain piece to fit or worse).

I've seen it countless times. This happens.

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Makes me wonder if Gan has any stories of his own...

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There is a certain male designer who's name I have not heard mentioned yet.. I'll wait.

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blacklist going down tonight at midnight - im getting too many death threats and threats to find my family and make me sorry i did this.

im still not sorry for protecting models from future negative experiences.

thank you so much to the thousands of people that supported me through this scary but important movement.


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someone had to do this. i know its crazy that a meme account ended up being the person to do it, but it was just time. what would you do if you had thousands of horrific stories? would you just go to bed at night knowing you had a way to help? im not that kind of person. im not the kind of person to stay silent. and maybe im too bold. but i couldnt wait around for change. because it wasnt coming. not until someone spoke out, no matter how scary it is. i couldnt wait for the police to do it. tell the models to get a lawyer and solve it on their own. do you realize it took decades for the police to give a sh*t and finally investigate terry richardson? when he had SO MANY victims, and his disgusting ways were already public? no one saw what i saw. no one read what i read. these experiences were heartbreaking. these models were coming to me terrified that their named person would find out it was them who reported. i have a relationship with my followers. ive always answered their dms and i consider you guys friends. i feel a connection with every one of you and i had to do something to help.

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creeps in the fashion industry: be afraid. watch yourself. because the truth will always come out. people arent afraid of you anymore. time is f*cking up. and its time for this b*llsh*t to end. models: be brave. be bold. f*ck the consequences. name your abuser. tell your stories. its over for these pieces of sh*t that abuse their power.

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Well, can't say I'm surprised the list is going down. This blogger completely mismanaged this list. First option should've been to reach out to a newspaper, not even the police or lawyer, which would give the accusers a chance to cover it up.

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I'm glad the list got taken down.

This "blog" which has no investigatory credibility and failed to provide a single ounce of proof shows how dangerous this is. The fact that some people on the list were later found to have been falsely accused shows that outing individuals should be left up to people who actually have credible skills at uncovering truths.

This kind of stuff could ruin people's lives.

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