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has is been confirmed that he's the one that sara ziff referenced? or is my guess just as good as anyone else's?

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The editorial in Purple Magazine with Magda, Freja, Abbey Lee and Eniko just about did it for me. This man is a very sick individual. How did he even come about asking the models to do such acts?? I agree with Karen, some of his work is good...but most of it is very lewd and degrading to the models in them. E.G. the Christian Lacroix fw07 campaign was one of my favorites by him and his work for US Vogue is great as well. So I guess Terry isn't all bad.

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I personally don't like his work. I don't know who Rie is, but I admire her for confronting him. I know of at least one other established model who expressed discomfort when working with him.

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http://i34.tinypic.com/n47py.jpg Look at this picture of Marykate. I have never seen her like this before. I am not a follower of her. But come on. She looks like she is strung out, got beat up and scared. Look at her knees, their purple. Sorry but, Marykate doesn't look like that to me nor has she ever been.
That's exactly the image i have of Mary Kate.

He takes a lot of wonderful pictures of woman , and he also takes pictures of man in very weird situations. They are not all like Obama's pics. Look at some Vincent Gallo's and Jared Leto's.
Plus he has no problem exposing male models the same way he does to female models.

Jeff Koons exhibits at Tate Modern with the type of images as Terry in his books, i sincerely see no problem with them. They are X rated and not made to be seen by children.

Beyonce shaking her butt in rap videos to me as a woman is much more degrading than any pic Terry takes, because she is presented to the world as some sort of symbol of female empowerment. Or any mainstream rap video that is fit to be seen by children with all these anonymous zoned out girls, that make millions and are approved by reviewers and public alike.

Terry's pic have their beauty and more importantly their space.


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^but i think the problem people have with him is the way he depicts 'young women',allegedly,barely out of high school(or still)in these raunchy situations.

i still feel like if he is taking advantage of girls supposedly illegal why aren't the parents visible...the agencies....why aren't they intervening in these situations?

personally,my feelings on terry is that it's got nothing to do with the sex but his lack of poetry. there are better photogs who depict a certain rawness,realism and humour but with much more sensitivity and beauty.

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He is no different than any other sleezy boss who won't keep his hands off his young employees. The older experienced ones call him on his bad behavior and he runs off whining, tail between his legs, to put a bad report in her file.

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Then the next day, he called my agency and complained I called him names in front of clients in Paris. It was the most cowardly thing I have ever seen."
Frockwriter has some things to say about him and his crony who likes to take pictures from the side during the shoot. And when he didn't book for a nude shoot, and then it turned into one.

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Beyonce shaking her butt in rap videos to me as a woman is much more degrading than any pic Terry takes, because she is presented to the world as some sort of symbol of female empowerment. Or any mainstream rap video that is fit to be seen by children with all these anonymous zoned out girls, that make millions and are approved by reviewers and public alike.

Terry's pic have their beauty and more importantly their space.
If you take offense by hip hop videos and Beyonce Knowles constant lack of clothing which I do just as well, you can be assured, I cannot possibly understand how you cannot feel degraded by some of his imagery. I don't want to post examples here as they very much fall under my definition of pornography but I wonder whether you have missed the picture posted by michyed in this thread before. I couldn't find any beauty in that.

Frankly, I have never seen a picture by Richardson that is by any means demeaning to men and even if he might take one or two pretty pictures from time to time, that doesn't make up for such shots as the ones I saw today on the very first page that comes up when you google his name.
I don't care whether he think it's ironic or funny, it's insulting.

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I think his work is disgusting, messy, boring, repetitive, and just not aesthetically pleasing at all.
Couldn't have said it better myself. He is, in my opinion, the biggest hack in fashion photography... combine that with just how condescending he is, and honestly, it's tragic. I remember his work with Vincent Gallo for some vodka brand- talk about skeevy to the max.

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If you take offense by hip hop videos and Beyonce Knowles constant lack of clothing which I do just as well, you can be assured, I cannot possibly understand how you cannot feel degraded by some of his imagery. I don't want to post examples here as they very much fall under my definition of pornography but I wonder whether you have missed the picture posted by michyed in this thread before. I couldn't find any beauty in that.

Frankly, I have never seen a picture by Richardson that is by any means demeaning to men and even if he might take one or two pretty pictures from time to time, that doesn't make up for such shots as the ones I saw today on the very first page that comes up when you google his name.
I don't care whether he think it's ironic or funny, it's insulting.
I have his book. Some things i like, other don't. Yes some are pornographic. Do I consider pornography demeaning to women in general? Not always.
If you never saw men being "objectified" by Terry is clear you are not familiar with his work. A "tame" example:http://s3.amazonaws.com/data.tumblr....A73ttSdiIo0%3D No ones is claiming Terry is a feminist, no one is picking him as an example that children should look up, like the likes of Beyonce that is seen as sees herself as some sort of XXI century version of feminism, that's what i object to.

I like his style of fashion photography a lot actually, I like the way he shoots women and the way they are never so glossed over to became non existent. Even when he's shooting fashion he never makes the model totally disappear, I think that's interesting.If they have personality it will show, if not it will show to. His more daring work is made for adults with adults, and is not so easily available to became some sort of template. It has his space.
I think it's quite funny the outrage at his work in The Pirelli calendar, and what is the Pirelli calender anyway, if not the expensive version of those very indecent calenders i saw as a child at the mechanic's. Regardless of how expensive the girls are and the reputation of the photographer. It's still a naked women's calender . Terry's version is the less hypocrite of them all.
That's actually what I like the most about his work, it's honest, he's certainly not fooling anyone.

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Do I consider pornography demeaning to women in general? Not always.
I guess that's the main point here. I think his pornography is in most cases (as in this). Well, but I certainly will admit that the picture you posted is demeaning to men. Very democratic.

De gustibus non est disputandum, I guess.

Just because he is frank in his sexism doesn't make it any better. Just because nobody's declaring him a feminist doesn't make it okay that he depicts women in the way he does.

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If you're getting paid, it's not really degrading. It's not like the models were abducted and snuffed after the shoot.

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so basically Rie is saying that young girls are unable to think by themselves, isn't she ? that's another form of degrading women

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Brilliant thoughts
I suppose that you're thinking that gettin 'paid' for any job allows the person in charge to ask you to strip down,pose for lewd pictures and allow them to be published to sell a product is not degrading....and if you don't you're fired.

Try doing that to a 16 year old working at a 'Dairy Queen" and your a** will end up in court so fast it will make your head spin.

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Ironically enough the Gucci campaign Rie shot with Terry was some of the only good work that he's ever done, and by his standards was almost chaste as well.

I think the reason why Terry is a target for such accusations in an industry where sexualizing young women is standard practice is because he takes things to such a sleazy extreme that it sticks out. Meisel can shoot a naked model in a provocative pose and it won't come off as degrading or uncomfortable. Mert & Marcus can shoot a naked model in a provocative pose and it won't seem degrading or uncomfortable. So many photographers produce work that teeters precariously on the edge of vulgarity, but Richardson's work nosedives off that edge and splatters on the ground below more often than not. His work may not actually be exploitative, although I'd have to suspend reality for a minute to actually believe that, but it certainly feels exploitative, like a dirty old porn producer asking a fresh outta high school cutie to do things she's not comfortable doing at an audition. I don't think any other fashion photographer's work can really be described as seeming that way.

The fact that the editorial getting attention right now appeared in Purple doesn't help matters, because Olivier Zahm seems just as sleazy as Richardson truth be told.

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Where are the pictures of young girls Terry's done all these horrible, nasty things to? Because on his porn stuff he only seems to work with older girls and to be honest it doesn't seem like it would be hard to get girls like Magdalena, Eniko, Freja and especially Abbey Lee to take their clothes off. Toni Garrn was flashing her tits in VI and no one is getting super angry with Meisel...

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