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26-05-2005
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b - "the pictures you posted are some of annie's very worst work..."

hello!, worst work? , can I know why?, are there valid arguments behind your statement?, I mean, certainly I'm not an Annie Levobitz fan but... I'm just curious about your opinion.
it's just my opinion...
mostly i don't like the subjects...
and i've seen them both look much much better...
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i also think that annie works better in colour...
her black and white seems kind of 'flat' to me...
her colour stuff has so much more depth...

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wow!, excelent opinion, very respectful , thank you texastess
Thank you. I am a photography buff, and could talk about good photographers for days. It's an amazing gift that the great photographers have. To be able to mix art with the science of photography is quite extraordinary.

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I feel the same way about Meisel. Those ads he did for Dolce and Gabbana this season prove he's a great talent with creating an image that captures something, and his technical skills can be seen in his f/w 01 ads for YSL, the lighting in them is exquisite.

Anyway, I agree with a lot of what's being said here. I think a great photographer is someone who can take a flat piece of paper with a picture on it and give it a soul. All of the photographers mentioned, though totally different in their work and their ideas, share a talent for creating a vision, for creating images that are more then just a pretty face or interesting set but rather an extension of themselves.
dang...
that was good spike...!

...yeah...
what he said....


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photography is a major offered at almost all of the art schools right along with painting and illustration etc.

i think for someone to be a great photographer, they must capture an image in a way that only photography could create. it is just another artistic language and medium. if it could be said better through a painting, then the photograph might as well not even exsist.

a great photographer is an artist.

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it's just my opinion...
mostly i don't like the subjects...
and i've seen them both look much much better...
:p
I don't think the intent was to make Arnold and Cindy look their best. The intent was to set up almost absurd pseudo-documentary portraits.

Cindy Crawford as Eve, with the snake mirroring the curves of Crawford. The trees behind her serving as a possible reference to the Tree of Life.

Arnold as the ultimate conquerer, shirtless and in complete control of his white horse. He has a cigar and a horse, many props and perhaps serving as subtle (or not to subtle) phallic symbols.

I think these portaits are brilliant.

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yeah...
i get it...
just not a fan of this kind of imagery...


not for me...

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I don't think the intent was to make Arnold and Cindy look their best. The intent was to set up almost absurd pseudo-documentary portraits.

Cindy Crawford as Eve, with the snake mirroring the curves of Crawford. The trees behind her serving as a possible reference to the Tree of Life.

Arnold as the ultimate conquerer, shirtless and in complete control of his white horse. He has a cigar and a horse, many props and perhaps serving as subtle (or not to subtle) phallic symbols.

I think these portaits are brilliant.
wow!, you rule, more!

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Cindy as Eve sounds interesting. Any pics?

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Cindy as Eve sounds interesting. Any pics?

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Thank you.

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I've checked Sacha Waldman, and though she has her own style and I find her work very impressive and professional, I don't like it. Most of her pictures have feeling of sadness and lonelyness. It was very negative for me, and I'm still under her mood... Very depressive...

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speaking specifically about the 'cindy as eve' picture, i as well don't like it. i find it boring, it doesn't strike any chords in me. i don't get an overwhelming sense of spiritual joy while looking at it, and, just like other images that don't capture my interest, it doesn't make me want to look at others like it or by the same artist. the 'adam and eve' imagery is tired and i don't like the composition in general; i mean obviously the focal point is clearly stated, but other than it, the rest of the image is boring. i understand that that's the point, but the 'point' doesn't really capture my interest.

same with the arnold image. i get that he represents strength and the white horse symbolism, but it does nothing for me emotionally. like i get the phallic symbols..yes, he's virile, that's very obvious...but that sort of symbolism in art, in general, doesn't do anything for me.

softgrey said it very well: just doesn't do it for me.

i understand that many well-known photographers are just that - well-known - for being classic and having made waves with their art, but a lot of the time i just don't enjoy it. maybe my tastes veer more toward things more edgy and less conventional, i don't know. but i just find a lot of 'important' images boring and uninteresting.

i'm still coming up with my list of favorites, i promise!


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Are we listing only "fashion" photographers?

Believe me, I understand those of you who don't like the above mentioned photographs. I feel a similar disintrest when looking at David LaChapelle's work. It's not that it's offensive, because I love the work of Larry Clark and he is often considered offensive, it just doesn't move me.

Art is so subjective.

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I've checked Sacha Waldman, and though she has her own style and I find her work very impressive and professional, I don't like it. Most of her pictures have feeling of sadness and lonelyness. It was very negative for me, and I'm still under her mood... Very depressive...
Sacha is a he, and I love depressing work.

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i'm still coming up with my list of favorites, i promise!
I'm looking forward to your list. I've seen your photography and it is very, very good.

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