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13-06-2008
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Who is most important for a good photo - photographer or model?
The photographer can capture good angles and with the help of lighting and what not, s/he can shoot an amazing photograph. I've heard that everyone has a good side, and a good photographer can capture that.

Then again, I find that it isn't easy to evoke an emotion in a photo. Modeling is just like acting, being and portraying a certain feeling. It takes a lot of work to make a pose or face look convincing and not forced.

What do you all think?

Can anyone be a model if the photographer is good enough at capturing the best angles of people?

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honestly, i think the question is hard ...
but honestly i think all depends on the photog' .... and it also all depends on the client ...

my answer is not really bringing sthg... but the question is too general ...
are you talking about commercials ? editorials ? beauty ed ? etc.

On a commercial, everything depends on the client !!!
On an editorial : this is a whole team ... but the photog' and stylist generally choose the model (make-up and hair stylists come after) ... but sometimes, they can be very disappointed .... if they haven't met her before and chose her with the agency card ... I already see this : the model was great on pictures, but when the model came on the shooting we noticed her nose was not the way it looks on every pictures ....
On a beauty ed : Model and Photog are important !


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the obvious reply: you need both "good"
the fact is that this is the truth

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i say the photographer is more important. the photog can make the model look hideous or flawless. even if the model is absolute crap, out of 1000 pictures there will be at least ONE picture that will be useable.

while, even if the model is perfect and professional, if the photog is so bad that he/she can't capture the model's beauty, no good shot would emerge from the shoot.

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the photographer is more important but the connection between them has to be right

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BOTH...
As well as the stylist, hairstylist,etc...
Everyone involved in the photo-shoot, rly, imo...
All of the elements must align in harmony for
everything to go well...

But I think a great model & stylist can rly elevate a photo-shoot...
If you've got amazing styling going on + a great girl to carry it...
a mediocre photog won't matter so much...
Still though, I'd rather have a great team,
rather than a 'just-so' team...

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the photographer is more important but the connection between them has to be right
Exactly. It's easy to take a picture of a person, but if we both feel uncomfortable, the results would show that. The lighting could be perfect, the image could be sharp as a razor, but if the emotion isn't there, then it's not all it could be, period. This is a key part of taking photos of people, especially portraits.

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Can anyone be a model if the photographer is good enough at capturing the best angles of people?
This is certainly not true. A good model must be able to connect with the photographer and emote.
The connection between photographer and model is also key to a good photo as well.

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I, of course, would say it's the whole team. One person not doing their job can ruin the whole thing. If everbody is ON ... the photographer, the model, the stylist, hair and makeup ... then it can be totally amazing. Fashion photography does not happen in a vauum ... it's a huge team effort.

The rapport between the tog and the model is definitely very important ... if they can get on the same wave length together ... get in the zone ... they can create magic. The best models can do that ... and so can the best photographers. But if one of them can't ... then the magic does not happen.

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The subject of this thread makes it feel appropriate for me to make my first post as a new member of tfs.

As a photographer for more than thirty years, I am still trying to figure out what makes a "good" photograph. My clients sometimes pass over photographs that are stunning to me, and choose ones that I almost junked. More often than not when I ask why he or she chose a particular photograph, I get the answer, "I don't know. There's just something about it..."

The best definition I can come up with for a good photograph is: One that stops the viewer from turning the page. At least that is the component in the "something about it."

I am convinced that two things are required to make what I consider a great photograph: great lighting and a great subject. Lighting and angles work together. Great lighting and bad angles - and vice versa - produce cliche photographs at best. The lighting, and, to a great extent, finding the correct angles, is the task of the photographer.

The model seems to bring the "something about it" quality that my clients note, the facial expression, the general feel, and so on.

Only when the model and I can get all of these qualities to come together do I get something that makes someone look twice. And, that is the goal.

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