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Thank you, that's exactly what I was trying to say and slutty was probably the wrong word. I really should have said provocative. Boobs are sexualised so when a girl with big boobs wears a low cut dress it does look a lot more provocative than a girl with B cups.
Yes, and that's the unfortunate concept that is ingrained in everyone's heads. Even if a girl with full breast was wearing a fitted shirt, she would get a different reaction than a girl wearing the same fitted shirt with a flatter chest. (Also, just so you know, you know a 36-B cup is bigger than a 32-B cup so a B cup can be big too)

This type of concept goes even further to the notion of "but she was asking for it" ideas. Sexual harassment, sexism, misogyny et cetera can never be legitimatized. Women don't have a choice for whatever size breasts they end up with (unless they have breast augmentation but that's a different story). So it's unfair that these concepts are attached to one another and I think that's what a lot of women today are suffering from. In this editorial, I see Meisel making these connections but also challenging it. I see something empowering.

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Even though Kate's editorial isn't something typically seen in VI I applaud them for producing it. The way everyone seems to go on about her, they make it sound like she's always posing totally provocatively and nude, but really I think what make's this editorial good is that it challenges people's perceptions of her. She is pretty covered up compared to what people expected. Plus, the fact is, it is a form of body-shaming, they way so many people seem to put her down for her looks. And I think she looks rather sensual and lovely in many of these images too. Part of the reason why everyone's in such a uproar is that she's "conventional looking" and doesn't have an "odd quality" about her. And so much about the fashion industry is about being totally different rather then just seeing beauty for what it is, no matter what it looks like.

Also, theBlueRider, I completely agree with everything you said in your last post. You bring up some really good points. It is an empowering thing to see.

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Call me biased but we could have easily seen another blonde model like Edita, Maryna, Anne V., or Doutzen do this. Crystal Renn, Candice Huffin, and Hilary could have been just as good as brunettes.

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Call me biased but we could have easily seen another blonde model like Edita, Maryna, Anne V., or Doutzen do this. Crystal Renn, Candice Huffin, and Hilary could have been just as good as brunettes.
Yeah, they could have, but the entire editorial is about Kate and how she's the hot new thing at the moment. So, the point would have been lost with someone like Maryna in the editorial...


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Can someone explain to me how the hell Kate Upton is a slut/slutty/whatever the hell else she has been called in this thread? Please folks give it up.
No-one here knows her and it's OK to say you don't like her look, but derogatory name calling is a bit much.
Kate's editorial isn't all great, but some shots are very effective and I believe with more work like this (and there will be more) she can really come into her own....given half a chance.

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What I don't understand is the outrage some members have expressed because not everyone likes Kate Upton or her work here for Vogue Italia. If you like Kate and her work good for you and I'm sure you have your reasons. If like me you don't like Kate or Kate's work then it's ok too we all have different tastes and opinions. And no I don't have a problem with boobs, blonde hair, or curvier models in high fashion. In fact I would love to see more models that fit those descriptions. What I don't like is the work she has produced to date. I have seen candids of hers and coupled up with a few editorials she has done I can say I don't find her particularly attractive either. Regarding this editorial I find it cheap and lazy and she comes off as a one trick pony who has nothing else to offer.

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some of the shots in the editorial are absolutely stunning, especially the close up and the last shot. others aren't so great but all in all i enjoy the editorial. can't wait to see it in hq.

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There is nothing slutty about big boobs.
I totally agree. There's such a double standard on how women "should" look like. So much misogyny in this thread. SMH

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Ok I don't like Kate Upton, but Idg why people are saying that the editorial has no concept and is horrible. Because I can count at least 10 recent editorials that have an almost identical concept and approach, and people love it and say its beautiful bc Natasha Poly is the model. But because this is Kate Upton, people are just finding reasons to hate it. It's really not a bad editorial tbh.

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I wonder what the reaction would be to this cover and editorial if Kate were an unknown before this.

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Ok I don't like Kate Upton, but Idg why people are saying that the editorial has no concept and is horrible. Because I can count at least 10 recent editorials that have an almost identical concept and approach, and people love it and say its beautiful bc Natasha Poly is the model. But because this is Kate Upton, people are just finding reasons to hate it. It's really not a bad editorial tbh.
You nailed it. Beauty is subjective, but there is nothing objective anyone can say about this editorial vs any other editorials featuring more accepted HF models - it's the same concept.

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What I don't understand is the outrage some members have expressed because not everyone likes Kate Upton or her work here for Vogue Italia. If you like Kate and her work good for you and I'm sure you have your reasons. If like me you don't like Kate or Kate's work then it's ok too we all have different tastes and opinions. And no I don't have a problem with boobs, blonde hair, or curvier models in high fashion. In fact I would love to see more models that fit those descriptions. What I don't like is the work she has produced to date. I have seen candids of hers and coupled up with a few editorials she has done I can say I don't find her particularly attractive either. Regarding this editorial I find it cheap and lazy and she comes off as a one trick pony who has nothing else to offer.
Exactly for me I could careless about her breast I have big breasts and because I have them I don't feel they are slutty.. I find her behavior and personality questionable.. Cat Daddy, using her Breast as a cupholder and tweeting it out the list goes on. She is the one her made herself sexual and couple that with an ugly face and floppy body yes, she is very unappealing IMO have an opinion I don't hate Kate at all and give her credit for taking advantage of being a gimmick. People who love her I am glad, but don't hate.on those who don't.
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I always considered her blatantly boring... and this Marilyn homage (How to Marry a Millionaire: balcony, sun lounger, glasses,...) is not in any kind of way striking/catchy.

However, most in fashion is... so if sell stuff, why not

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And IMO the editorial is cheap, and she is a wanna be. I would be saying it even if my fave models were features there.
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No information about the others editorials?


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