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Oh Lord, my 2nd thread viewing tonight after the Prada S/S 2013 thread.......and it's not a good night for me.
This is quite sad in all respects. Why the hell did they commission this shot for the cover of one of the most respected magazines around? Also who DID commission it (P45 in the post sharpish).
This is hands down the worst Vogue Paris cover I can remember. Not for the first time Kate looks like a wax caraciture of herself or Amanda Lear, but this time it beggars belief and much respect to George for his music career, but that face shouldn't be on any magazine cover. If this was April 1st I would think it was a joke and to say it was a 'car crash' of a cover would be ironic in George's case.

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Tomber pour la top model would mean he's having a coup de foudre for her ...
Tomber la top model, means his sex appeal, his flirt attack made Kate fall in love with him (and they had sex, in the end) ... it's something a hip hop kind of guy from Harlem (in a French version) or a guy with a bad vocabulary and no good education would say ... it's not a correct French !! I guess it's a joke to appear young, but that's so ridiculous !

Is my French completely wrong?
I thought "La" referred to the feminine and "Le" referred to the masculine.
Why is it "La Pop Star" referring to George and
"Le Top Model" Referring to Kate? Is that completely wrong? or do I need more French lessons?

And is "Tombe" from the verb "Tomber"?
Loosely translated as "to fall" as in you "fall in love with someone".


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Just when I thought Alt's VP was beginning to go somewhere thanks to their last issue. But how am I not surprised about this. Shame on you, Emmanuelle!

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Is my French completely wrong?
I thought "La" referred to the feminine and "Le" referred to the masculine.
Why is it "La Pop Star" referring to George and
"Le Top Model" Referring to Kate? Is that completely wrong? or do I need more French lessons?

And is "Tombe" from the verb "Tomber"?
Loosely translated as "to fall" as in you "fall in love with someone".
I don't know if I can explain this correctly because I'm terrible at explaining grammar particularly when it's referring to a language other than English, but yes you are right, La is feminine and Le is masculine. However the Le and the La are not referring to the actual subjects (ex: George and Kate). It is referring to the 'Top Model' or to 'Pop Star'. So when you say Le Top Model, it's because Top Model in French is masculine. You are not, of course, trying to say that Kate Moss is a man Likewise you would say 'La Pop Star' because 'Pop Star 'is feminine, even though the pop star you are referring to is George Michael. I think that is correct. Sorry if I'm giving you wrong info... it's been a while since I took a French course.

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Alt and Testino is not a good pair! I`m getting sick of Testino`s work lately.. and this is to no exception.

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Is my French completely wrong?
I thought "La" referred to the feminine and "Le" referred to the masculine.
Why is it "La Pop Star" referring to George and
"Le Top Model" Referring to Kate? Is that completely wrong? or do I need more French lessons?

And is "Tombe" from the verb "Tomber"?
Loosely translated as "to fall" as in you "fall in love with someone".
You're right, La for femenine nouns and Le for masculine ones. But in the sentence "La pop star" the sujet is the word Star, and star is a femenine noun so, that's why La is the definite article, there's not a masculine form for Star in french.

And yes, you are right again, certainly Tombe is a conjugated form from the verb Tomber (infinitive).
"La pop star tombe la top model" is not well wrote, it must be "La pop star tombe pour la top model" accurately translated it would be "The pop star falls down by the top model"

Model is a foreign word (in french it is tranlate to the word mannequin) usually on latin languages, they (foreign words) are become on masculine nouns, like l'internet or le téléviseur.

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I don't know if I can explain this correctly because I'm terrible at explaining grammar particularly when it's referring to a language other than English, but yes you are right, La is feminine and Le is masculine. However the Le and the La are not referring to the actual subjects (ex: George and Kate). It is referring to the 'Top Model' or to 'Pop Star'. So when you say Le Top Model, it's because Top Model in French is masculine. You are not, of course, trying to say that Kate Moss is a man Likewise you would say 'La Pop Star' because 'Pop Star 'is feminine, even though the pop star you are referring to is George Michael. I think that is correct. Sorry if I'm giving you wrong info... it's been a while since I took a French course.
This is all correct ...

"Tomber quelqu'un" (seduce) "tomber la chemise" (take off a shirt) are idiomatic familiar expressions ...
There's also "tomber le masque" (Show your real you, your real face - so you take off your mask, and show your real face) ...

But we are going way off topic, there ... And I think people don't really care ...

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Thanks Alauu, Pradable, BerlinRocks!

I wasn't aware that Pop Star and Top Model were feminine and masculine.
Clearly I do need some additional French lessons!

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But we are going way off topic, there ... And I think people don't really care ...
No I care! As someone who can't read anything besides English I do often wonder what headlines on foreign magazines mean (sometimes I can figure it out...often I'm lost though). It adds another layer of context while viewing the cover I think.

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oh it doesnt add anything as for me, when i read headlines on any language however i do understand the message) usually its just quibble as a biggest and main qliche of all fashion (and not only fashion) publication

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380 pages

[BIJOUX] "Feux Verts" - 6 p.
Ph: Giampaolo Sgura
Styl: Géraldine Saglio
M: ?

[BEAUTÉ] "Talents Cachés" - 5 p. + 2 p. featuring the makeup artists
Ph: Karim Sadli
Styl: Capucine Safyurtlu
M: Anja Rubik (+ makeup artists Benjamin Puckley, Janeen Witherspoon, Mark Hampton & Akki Shirakawa)

[C'EST VOGUE] "Label Ska" - 1 p.
Ph: Andreas Sjodin
Styl: Claire Dhelens
M: Toni Garrn

[C'EST VOGUE] "A Pas de Panthère" - 1 p.
Ph: Andreas Sjodin
Styl: Claire Dhelens
M: Toni Garrn

[C'EST VOGUE] "Chic en Chaîne" - 1 p.
Ph: Andreas Sjodin
Styl: Claire Dhelens
M: Toni Garrn

[C'EST VOGUE] "Ligne Blanche" - 1 p.
Ph: Joan Braun
Styl: Claire Dhelens
M: ?

[C'EST VOGUE] "Grande Illusion" - 1 p.
Ph: Andreas Sjodin
Styl: Claire Dhelens
M: Toni Garrn

[C'EST VOGUE] "Classe Fétiche" - 1 p.
Ph: Joan Braun
Styl: Claire Dhelens
M: ?

[C'EST VOGUE] "Empreinte Classique" - 1 p.
Ph: Joan Braun
Styl: Claire Dhelens
M: ?

[MODE] "Pas si Accessoire" - 1 p.
Ph: Joan Braun
Styl: Claire Dhelens
M: ?

[MODE] "L'Envers du Style - Collaboration croisée entre H&M et Maison Martin Margiela" - 1 p.
Ph: Joan Braun
Styl: Claire Dhelens
M: ?

[MODE] "A vos marques" - 1 p.
Ph: Joan Braun
Styl: Claire Dhelens
M: ?

[MODE] "L'Odysée de Julien" - 2 p.
Ph: Claudia Knoepfel & Stefan Indlekofer
Styl: Capucine Safyurtlu
M: Julien David & ?

[MODE] "Entrée en Matière"
- 1 p.
Ph: Joan Braun
Styl: Claire Dhelens
M: ?

[MISS VOGUE] "Boy Meets Girl" - 10 p.
Ph: Claudia Knoepfel & Stefan Indlekofer
Styl: Capucine Safyurtlu
M: ?

[MUSIQUE] "Il Est Libre Marc" - 1 p.
Ph: Karim Sadli
Styl: Capucine Safyurtlu
M: Marc Lavoine

"King George"
- 15 p.
Ph: Mario Testino
Styl: Emmanuelle Alt
M: George Michael & Kate Moss

"New Kid in Town" - 14 p.
Ph: Peter Lindbergh
Styl: Anastasia Barbieri
M: Arizona Muse

"Extérieur Jour" - 14 p.
Ph: Inez & Vinoodh
Styl: Emmanuelle Alt
M: Doutzen Kroes

"L'Automne en Hiver, Le Printemps en Été" - 6 p.
Ph: David Sims
Styl: Joe McKenna
M: ?

"Alta Moda" - 6 p. (+ 1 p.)
Ph: Mario Sorrenti (+ Terry Richardson)
Styl: Emmanuelle Alt
M: Bianca Brandolini (+ Dolce&Gabbana)

"Tailleur Pour Dames" - 12 p.
Ph: Glen Luchford
Styl: Marie Chaix
M: Iselin Steiro

"La Collectionneuse" - 10 p.
Ph: Walter Pfeiffer
Styl: Anastasia Barbieri
M: Laetitia Casta



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Supplement Vogue Enfants "Au Pays d'Heidi"
Unknown model shot by Benoît Peverelli, styled by Claire Dhelens
66 pages.

[IRRESISTIBLES] "Cocons de Saison"
- 4 p.
Ph: Fabrice Fouillet
Styl: Isabelle Wagner

"Le Refuge des Rêves" - 22 p.
Ph: Benoît Peverelli
Styl: Claire Dhelens
M: ?

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[C'EST VOGUE] "Ligne Blanche" - 1 p.
Ph: Joan Braun
Styl: Claire Dhelens
M: ?


[C'EST VOGUE] "Classe Fétiche" - 1 p.
Ph: Joan Braun
Styl: Claire Dhelens
M: ?

[C'EST VOGUE] "Empreinte Classique" - 1 p.
Ph: Joan Braun
Styl: Claire Dhelens
M: ?

[MODE] "Pas si Accessoire" - 1 p.
Ph: Joan Braun
Styl: Claire Dhelens
M: ?

[MODE] "L'Envers du Style - Collaboration croisée entre H&M et Maison Martin Margiela" - 1 p.
Ph: Joan Braun
Styl: Claire Dhelens
M: ?

[MODE] "A vos marques" - 1 p.
Ph: Joan Braun
Styl: Claire Dhelens
M: ?


[MODE] "Entrée en Matière"
- 1 p.
Ph: Joan Braun
Styl: Claire Dhelens
M: ?
Model : Martha Streck

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[MODE] "L'Odysée de Julien" - 2 p.
Ph: Claudia Knoepfel & Stefan Indlekofer
Styl: Capucine Safyurtlu
M: Julien David & ?
Model : Sigrid Agren

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[MISS VOGUE] "Boy Meets Girl" - 10 p.
Ph: Claudia Knoepfel & Stefan Indlekofer
Styl: Capucine Safyurtlu
M: ?
Model : Kendra Spears



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"L'Automne en Hiver, Le Printemps en Été" - 6 p.
Ph: David Sims
Styl: Joe McKenna
M: ?
Model : Janice Alida ( not 100% sure ...)

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Some of the model choices sound okay, but wow from the crappy cover (are george michael's eyes even pointing in the same direction?) to the somewhat lackluster preview, I think I'll have to pass on this issue.

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so same models again i see? a little bit of variety would be great.

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The most terrible VP cover I ever seen

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