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For PR, one of the skills you will need is to be able to write well, to catch people's interest in short bursts, for press releases. So, writing or basic journalism courses would be very helpful. Generally image manipulation is left to the techies in a company not the PR people and that is guided by the marketing dept., but Graphic Arts classes may help with learning how to lay out a web site. Fabrics and textiles ... that's a long way from PR and development of a company's presence on line ... that's part of fashion design training or a separate type of design, altogether. We have several threads about textiles ... just search this CEB forum and you'll find them. Maybe there's some ideas in there about what courses might help you, if any.
Thank you for your reply Bette T!

Since the company I work in is quite small, all of these areas are necessary for me to learn as I will be doing Brand Managing as well as dealing with our PR and online presence. There aren't too many large fashion companies based in Australia so knowing more than one area really sets you apart from many others. I've just had a look at some ads for the sort of position I want to get in to and a lot of them have been asking for business qualifications, image manipulation and industry experience so I guess I will just have to do single units and try and widen my skill set!

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I need advice from someone with more experience than me!
I'm currently interning at a major fashion company in my country, it's a 3 months plus another 3 months if both parts agree, internship. At the end of the 6 months there's a high chance they'll hire me. I like my job but:

1) I'm still in my MSc program and I'd like to graduate within December, which I don't think will be possible with still 5 exams left, a thesis and work (i work from 10 to 12 hours a day) I barely have time to breathe. Continuing for another 3 months will mean graduating in March 2012.

2) I'd love to do what I'm doing right now and get properly paid for it but I also want to move out of my country ASAP, and being hired would mean that I will have to stay here for at least another year.

What should I do??!

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I need advice from someone with more experience than me!
I'm currently interning at a major fashion company in my country, it's a 3 months plus another 3 months if both parts agree, internship. At the end of the 6 months there's a high chance they'll hire me. I like my job but:

1) I'm still in my MSc program and I'd like to graduate within December, which I don't think will be possible with still 5 exams left, a thesis and work (i work from 10 to 12 hours a day) I barely have time to breathe. Continuing for another 3 months will mean graduating in March 2012.

2) I'd love to do what I'm doing right now and get properly paid for it but I also want to move out of my country ASAP, and being hired would mean that I will have to stay here for at least another year.

What should I do??!

Well you just have to ask yourself what REALLY matters to you. If moving REALLY matters the most to you the answer should be obvious. Same with school.

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You really didn't provide enought information about what you want to do, IMO.

What is you actual career goal? What specifically are you working towards?

MSc ... Masters of Science degree? Does that relate to fashion? Or are you stuck in a discipline that you really don't want to follow... and and want to switch to fashion?

And where do you want to move to ... and why? The city you move to will change your chances of working in fashion or not.

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Thank you Both!

BetteT my MSc is a Master of Science in Marketing Management with a concentration on fashion and luxury companies, so yes, it's totally fashion related! (considering that I live in Milan pretty much every school has a fashion course, even business schools)

Right now I'm working as a brand manager assistant and I like it, but I wouldn't mind trying something new, probably buying. Before that, I interned as a marketing and sales assistant in New York and yes, New York is my end goal even if it's totally unrealistic considering I don't have any work visa and companies are usually not willing to sponsor.
My second choice would be London (I've already been contacted by a company offering me a job interview but they thought I was going to graduate in July)

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Companies are much more willing to sponsor ... if you have actual work experience, beyond internships. They have to make a case to the US government that you have some special experience and work skills that makes it necessary for them to hire you, not just any US citizen right out of college. And that takes time. So, I would say your internship, if it leads to a real job, will be extremely valuable in helping you move towards your goal of moving to NY.

So your immediate goal should be building both education and work experience ... you have to get both done, before you will be a good candidate for a US Work visa. Since you have the internship now, in your chosen feild and your education can wait .... I'd seriously consider moving forward with the internship and finish the eduacation when you are able. That is ... if you really are focused on moving to NY to work.

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Thank you so much BetteT for your precious advice!!!
You're totally right, I'll try my best to work and finish my master within December. I'll talk to my boss and see how many permissions they'll give me to study and do some research on my thesis!
It's seriously hard to do both but I'll do my best..

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And Here I am again!!!!
Last week I found out there's an opening (but an internship as usual) in the buying dept of my company and I asked HR to switch from Brand Management to buying. I interviewed with both HR and then with the senior buyer and now it's up to my boss to decide if she's willing to let me switch position.
In the meantime i've been contacted by, let's say the biggest luxury group, for another position as a CRM assistant (yes, always internship) that's however very close to retail as it is buying. they do offer me more in terms of "salary" and of course it comes with all LVMH perks.
I'm awaiting responses from both of them but I know the buyer is willing to take me, it all depends on my boss. My colleagues told me I should switch to LVMH as it's a better opportunity but I feel bad after everything I done in order to have an interview with the buyer to tell them "I'm sorry but i'm leaving for another company"
What should I do?

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Here are the questions you need to ask yourself:

Why is LVHM a better opportunity? Is it really better? Or is it just more money? What will it do for your future, compared to having the new position in your company? Can you not learn as much with your own company? What will it do to your reputation if you bail on your company? How connected are they in the world you want to work in? What happens if LVMH or any other future employer ask them why you left ... what will they say about you? Will it hurt your reputation in the future?

Only you can answer these questions and figure this out.

But ... if they won't let you switch, then your answer might be clear ... so I'd probably wait to find out, first.

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Hi,

I am starting this fall at the Savannah College of Art and Design, studying for a BFA in fashion marketing. I was originally accepted to FIT for advertising and marketing but SCAD offered me such a large scholarship that I could not possibly refuse. I'm skeptical about SCAD because it seems geared towards graduating artists/designers, and the fashion marketing program was one of those programs they just threw in there to get more students to attend. I have my schedule for the first quarter and I'm having to take drawing 100, design 100, etc. I don't know how to draw, paint, etc.

My career goal isn't that specific, but I would like a job in the fashion industry where I could exercise my creativity. I'm very good at marketing, such as creating and planning innovative/guerrilla marketing campaigns. Or even owning my own store.

I don't know if I should stay at SCAD and get a BFA in fashion marketing, but i'm not sure what career I could get with that degree from them. I've considered SUNY Purchase for their media, society, and the arts program and also Kent State University in Ohio() I don't know! I would also like to get out of Georgia and move to the pacific northwest area but fashion and fashion schools seem to be non existent there.

Any advice on what I should do? Sorry if this isn't clearly organized with a main point. I will admit I am very confused and unsure of what direction to go in.

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Yeah ... it's hard to advise you when you don't know what your goals are.

Let me ask you some questions that might help you clarify your goals more:
  • Your "creativity" is in the business end of things ... not fashion design?
  • So, why is fashion the only business that you want to work in?
  • Can't you be just as creative in marketing/advertising/planning etc. in any business?
  • Since you got a scholarship, can you tranfer some of these credits to another school later without loosing to much time? Check into it.
Some things to consider:
  • If you attend a good college and get a degree in marketing you can still work in fashion, but it opens things up for you to work in other industries. In these difficult financial times, the more options you have the better.
  • If you get a degree from a fashion shcool ... in marketing ... most likely you won't be able to use it for any other industry (at least in the beginning).
  • If you attend a fashion shcool ... they will probably expect you to learn what their main students learn ... some design. You are already finding that out ... so you need to be prepared for that.
  • In the outside world, any fashion company won't expect you to have a degree from a fashion school ... it's not a big deal. They will just want you to be great in marketing.
  • If you are really hell bent on being in the fashion industry ... you need to be in NY ... period. So, going to school there will help you start to make connections and get internships in NY ... very important for later.

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I've been wondering about this for a long time, and I just hope you all can advise me because I literally think about this every single day and I have been for about three years.

I am just about to start college as a freshman at George Washington University in Washington, DC. I am planning to major in journalism. I love to write, and I have been told I have quite a talent for it. I really want to pursue a career in journalism. That is definitely the career I want. The problem arises when I try to decide where I want to take my journalism degree.

I love fashion. I read fashion magazines obsessively. I have, as an honest assessment, probably about a thousand pages I have ripped from magazines and saved which I later cut images out of and glue into a little portfolio. On my computer, at most recent count, I have 1,828 images saved from various places on the internet. I follow lots of people in fashion on Twitter (probably about 100 fashion-related Twitter accounts). I love fashion blogs, Who What Wear, Refinery 29, and Fashionista.com.

However, I also have a passion for human rights, international affairs, politics, and things of that nature. I read books all the time about genocide, torture, conflict, famine, poverty, et cetera. I love the idea of comforting the afflicted and afflicting the comfortable with journalism. I don't listen to music, I listen to the BBC World Service. I count Nicholas Kristof and Anderson Cooper among my personal heroes. I love muckraking, hard-hitting journalism.

The way I've been thinking for a long time is that that kind of hard-hitting journalism should be my career and fashion should just be a hobby. But I feel like if I don't have more of an involvement in fashion, I might be unfulfilled. But I feel the same way about having a career as a muckraker. Am I overthinking it? Is there some kind of happy medium, a way I can do both? AM I GOING TO DRIVE MYSELF CRAZY YES I THINK SO. Ugh. Okay. Thoughts?

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There are human rights issues in fashion too .... sweat shops, child labor, sending all the work overseas creating loss of jobs for workers in the countries where most of that fashion is purchased, to name a few ... not to mention animal rights. Just something to think of.

Next... you never know where the future will lead. When you graduate, you will be throwing your hat in at anyplace for any job that might interest you. Your career path might just pick you. I wouldn't worry about it yet ... untill you have a job offer.

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Also, Gimmethatbag, you could still combine the two like BetteT said. Fashion has it's own issues which often go unreported and who knows maybe you could be the one to make them national news! Someone you might want to look to for inspiration and career wise is Robin Givhan who won the 2006 Pulitzer Prize in the category of criticism. She's quite an amazing lady and someone who's definitely change how fashion is reported.

Okay, so now I've got my own problems regarding college. I'm having the worst time choosing what schools I ought to look at and what I should study. I'll be going into my second year of college and I transferred to a community college at home because my first school wasn't the right fit for me. But now I know I want to go to a school in NYC and for it to a liberal arts school. I already have FIT on my list for Fabric Styling but if I can't get in there or decided just to get a liberal arts education I need a few other schools. One of the main reasons why I want to be in the city is for the opportunities to do internships and to just be in the epicenter of the fashion world. I do know I'd like to work in fashion eventually (preferably in magazines) although I'm a bit interested in working in film too. I like to write but I also have a massive thing for films. So what other schools in NYC would you suggest I look at? My gpa in high school was about a 3.5 and my grades in college haven't been completely stellar however it's changing. And I think I've been making a pretty good turnaround.

One school that I've been looking at is Barnard college and I think it sounds amazing. I really love the look of the film program but also that they have english too. And although it's an all girls school it's a sister school to Columbia so I could take some classes on that campus as well. The only issue possibly is the sticker price... quite expensive! However, if I'm only at the school for two years it might not be so bad.

So any other suggestions? Thanks!

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MY first thought was Columbia ... but to be honest, I don't know what courses the have. But it's a highly regarded school and it's right where you need to be.

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