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08-07-2009
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so if i were to inquire about a job would you recomend maybe going to the counters and see how the girls are doing their makeup and how they do it on other people, maybe practice these? i use several benefit everyday and know alot about pretty much every product. Also you say an experience in commissioned sales, would this have to be in beauty or otherwise?

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Not a bad idea to see what they are doing at the counter ... do some homework. Also take a look at what they wear ... I know the MAC has a uniform, sort of ... they must wear black. And maybe ask the sales people what they had to do to get the job (maybe they had to demonstrate thier makeup skills ... or had so show knowledge of the products). See if you can talk to them them during a quiet time. I think that sales is sales ... and all you have to do is to get an interview and then convince the interviewer that you are motivated, will represent the company well and can sell the product.

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all the counters iv been to the girls wear black trousers and a black tshirt with benefit written on it. another thing is my college does alot of vocational courses as well as the average subjects and offer a chance to do one of the vocational things as an extra curricular thing, they do a makeup one, so im thinking of doing that as itll be probably one of the only free chances to do a course like that.

although some of the girls ive talked to when buying products are just completely clueless about the products, makes me madd because i want that job so much!

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I start my make-up classes mid september, 6 weeks long and your tuition also pays for a big fully stocked mac case. At the end I'll be "certified" I'm not really sure how important that is.....it's the only thing of it's kind in the whole city so I don't have a lot of options,but I'm excited!!!!!

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"Certified" means nothing to a commercial client if you are looking to work in fashion ... photo shoots, fashion shows, etc. Your portfolio, your resume and references mean the most. What almost all makeup artist schools don't tell you is that the school is barely the beginning of your learning and will not prepare you to walk in and score gigs. It's way more complex and difficult than that ... and most never make it in the industry.

If you want to do bridal work ... a "certification" might impress a more naive bride ... but you will still have to produce a body of work and be able to provide references.

Counter work at a dept. store is most likely the only gigs you might be able to get right out of school ... and that is mostly selling and no creativity at all. In fact, you don't even need to have had school to get a job behing a counter, as long as you can demosntrate that you can apply makeup well and can sell their products. I't's a sales job first ... not a job for a real talented makeup artist. But, if you can sell, it's a way to pay the bills. You can always test and build your portfolio on your days off.

Do be aware that you will probably take several years to build enough clientelle to support yourself as a freelance artist in the fashion industry. You will need to work for free and assist for free or for minimal pay in the first year or two and you will slowly build your contacts and build your kit (MAC alone won't cut it ... pros use a myriad of products from about 10 or more different lines ... what works best for them and their individual situations). Just like most things in fashion ... it's about who you know and, of course, how good a job you can do once they refer you. One misstep and you don't get called back for a second chance.

But if you are willing to work really hard, are very agressive about getting yourself out there to network and do consistent marketing and follow up calls, have the money to sink into it for the first year or two, and can support yourself some other way while you do this and still are able to take gigs on a day or two notice ... then you might have a chance. It's a very tough gig at a very tough time. Most of my experienced makeup artist colleagues are working at real jobs now at least part time ... because they can no longer support themselves on makeup gigs alone.

I don't want to be negative ... because a few people in the right circumstances will make it. It is just that you need to understand how it really works, before you make that major commitment. Otherwise, the money and time spent in school will be wasted. Food for thought .....

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Cameron Jane Makeup School (Sydney, Australia)
Hey guys, I am nearly finished with my Certificate II course at tafe and thinking about my plans for next year.. I'm very interested in the Cameron Jane course (Cert IV)... Mainly my goal is doing fashion related work after I get enough experience, (eg. runway, editorial etc.)

It would be great if some ex-students or anyone that knows about this school told me a little about their experience (recommendations for other good schools in Sydney are welcome)

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I'm still aspiring even after being in the industry for 3 yrs.
Fashion weeks really dont pay u well but u can test how powerful you are as a makeup artist there...
Bridals are good but india too has a lot of competition these days where brides is every makeup artist's bread and butter...

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I was thinking about becoming a makeup artist, but from what I've seen, there is way more job for estheticians who do makeup than for makeup artists, who create original look, paint on the face....
It's an irrealistic dream. I feel lost...

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I finally decided that I CAN be a make-up artist. I know that I'll have to work hard and to work at fashion industry you need to know people etc, but I don't see myself doing anything but this.

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^ Ditto

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I am in the same boat! I am an Esthetician and Makeup Artist. I have been working for dermatologists, medspas, and for myself for the past 7 years, but am really interested in getting into the makeup part of the field now. I am also a Permanent Makeup Artist, and I love this, but want to build a portfolio for makeup artistry. It seems hard and challenging, but isnt that when its most fulfilling!!? The economy just needs to pick up some...oyyy does it ever.

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I have an occasional work as a makeup artist, I worked at the counter for Lancome for some time and this August I'm taking 5day course by pixiwoo, they are great teachers - Samantha and Nicola Chapman, their web site is fashionface.tv, oh, and the course will be in London. I want to improve my skills and try to understand if I love doing make up more than working in the local magazine as a fashion editor (which is my current job)

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I'm a make-up artist since december'10. Is not a long time, so I made just a few jobs and don't have a big network.
But, luckily, I start contact at facebook with a designer. And she is very good, her brand catwalks on Fashion Rio. And she gave me invitation to her show and I went.

Now, she wants to meet me and I'm freaking out! Cuz, realize guys, I'm a "nobody" at fashion business and I'll have the opportunity to meet a good designer!
So, what do I do? I mean, it's a great chance, isn't?

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It could be - just don't go with any expectations or you will get over/underwhelmed!

Accept a meeting! Be prepared. Bring your portfolio, some answers ready for what you think she may ask (study her brand a bit), and bring a smile! Remember she's only human and this could be mutually benefical! Good luck, love.

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