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14-06-2013
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Stylists: Pulling my own evening gowns for red carpet events?
I am so ignorant I don't even know if pulling is the right term, but
what is the best way to pull dresses for red carpet/high profile events, especially abroad? I do not have a stylist, and until now my manager has borrowed (pulled?) evening gowns for when I attend high profile events. But this time it will be in Indonesia, which I am unfamiliar with. The haute couture gown I wore before there was stunningly gorgeous but not my style. I will have time for one fitting once in Jakarta, but no more. A quick search shows there are pap Alberta Ferretti, Valentino boutiques among others in Jakarta, but I'm guessing they will have few evening gowns, and probably none in my size.

Do I borrow something here in Paris (perhaps a designer wishing to expand into Indonesia), or do I take the risk of finding something there (if so, how), or will it be best to contact a designer available both in Paris and Jakarta and see if they might work something out? I understand insurance is an issue.

Basically, I would like to learn in general the best way to go about this on my own, without relying on my manager or stylist, in any location.

Thank you so much, in advance.

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That's actually an odd request .... because that is what stylists do ... connect with designers and pull for their clients. They have the contacts, they do all the work involved, keep the records, prep the chosen outfit, run around to get the samples and to get them back ... and they take the brunt of the negative responses, when designers don't want to lend. You might get your feelings hurt and you will have to do a lot of physical labor to get it all done in the time they allot.

But ... if you want to try ... here's the drill:

Contact their publicity/PR people in advance and ask to make arrangements with them. You will have to find a way to convince them you are who you say you are and must prove that you are attending a very public event where you will be photographed by the press. The only reason they lend is to get mention in the press ... so that needs to be your focus when you talk to them.

First, they will decide if you are press worthy enough.if your look suits their image and if they are interested in being shown at your event. If you are a major star, you will have pick of pretty much anything you want ... they will even call in samples that are out to other stylists, if you are "big" enough. However, if you are a lesser known person or the event is not of great interest to them, they may limit it to a few selections from a previous year or may just say no.

If they do lend some samples, usually they will not release them until right before the event and need you to return them the day after the event ... 24 hours is all you usually will have to get them all back. They will need them for someone else to try on. So you have to be prepared to schlep around a lot ... right before your event and immediately after. Plus, if you are not in the city where their samples are, they will ship them to you, so you will also have to steam and prep them yourself the day of the event. Then, of course, you must pack it all up and ship it back, ASAP.

I would think you'd need this time to prepare yourself ... spa, hair, makeup, etc. So it makes me wonder why you think that you have the time and energy to do all of this yourself. Your stylist is a very important part of your team .... and offers a valuable service and has the time and the knowledge to be able to get this done efficiently.

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Thank you so much Bette, that is truly amazing and valuable advice.

I'm still new to this area, and I didn't mean to say I don't need a stylist, it's just that my manager has done all of this in the past, and occasionally I've worked with stylists, but sometimes I'm on my own, and I've wanted to have a little more artistic freedom, especially abroad. You are absolutely right though, that I am way too busy before and after an event and probably should hire a stylist as well. It would be okay if it's a location I'm familiar with, and I've met directly with designers here who have kindly offered to lend me dresses in Paris or in London. But in locations I have no idea about, I wouldn't even know how to find a dress, designer or stylist, let alone one I trust, so I wanted to learn my way around a little better. I'll also have the same issue coming up in Cairo and Abu Dhabi...

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Advice on pulling clothes for test shoots
Hey everyone! So I've decided to try and get back into the styling field (I was a stylist assistant prior to this and am thinking of doing more of my own work), and need to do some shoots to build my portfolio so am thinking of doing some test shoots with people I used to work with (MUA, photographers, hair stylists, etc).

Does anyone have any advice on how and where I can pull clothes from? The impression I'm getting after contacting a few people around is that PR agencies are not too keen on lending for test shoots... but if you do know anyone in London that is willing to lend clothes please let me know!

Thanks a lot in advance!

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Oh, I forgot to mention I have loads of experience pulling clothes for publications with no problems at all, but I'm finding it A LOT harder for test shoots seeing as it's not going to be published anywhere at all, the PR agencies are writing back why should they bother.

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Yeah ... if there is nothing in it for the designer, the publicist won't lend any samples.

Here are the only alternatives (far from perfect) that I have found:

1. Long shot .... if the photographer and/or model is famous or well connected, they might lend. So be sure to let them know that, if you are working with anyone who is famous in your town.

2. Buy and return. Not ideal and retailers don't like it so don't get caught doing it, if you can help it ... but good in an emergency. Be very careful not to overdo it in one place or too often. They could refuse your returns, if they think you are abusing the return policy. And before you "buy", make sure that they have a cash back refund. Most department stores are OK ... but individual boutiques usually only allow you to exchange for something else and within 7 days. You must leave the tags on, or put them back on, so be careful about tags, too.

3. Lots of larger stores offer something called "studio services" for stylists. This allows you to pull as much as you want, with their blessings as long as they can resell what you return (tags back on, in excellent condition). But .... usually you must either buy some of the wardrobe (20% of what you pull is the norm) or pay a restocking fee for the same amount. You have to be approved as a stylist who may use the service in advance ... credit checks and things like that. Studio Services is usually set up to service the film industry wardrobe people, but they usually will work with fashion stylists, too. So it's not free but it's cheaper than buying everything.

4. Use new and aspiring designers. Edit very carefully .... you don't want it to look like fashion student work, so be very selective about what you use. Find them on line or at fashion schools. They often can use good professional photos for their promotional activities and love to lend in exchange for photos the they may use for this purpose.

Of course, you must involve the photographer, who must agree to allow them to use the photos they get. It's a contract between the photographer and the designer ... as to what and how many photos the designer will get, whether or not they will be retouched, and how the designer may use them (on line, in ads, in store posters and/or in their portfolios, etc.). To protect yourself, make sure that you get acknowledgements from both of them, in writing ... at least emails that show the agreement that they work out. You don't get caught up in a messy disagreement (and possible lawsuit) if he doesn't want the designer to actually use the photos anywhere to profit from them, so having them talk to each other directly takes you out if it, somewhat.

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2. Buy and return. Not ideal and retailers don't like it so don't get caught doing it, if you can help it ... but good in an emergency. Be very careful not to overdo it in one place or too often. They could refuse your returns, if they think you are abusing the return policy. And before you "buy", make sure that they have a cash back refund. Most department stores are OK ... but individual boutiques usually only allow you to exchange for something else and within 7 days. You must leave the tags on, or put them back on, so be careful about tags, too.
this is done a lot more than everyone thinks. a lot of bloggers do this. they can cover up the tags with an accessory or just film from the side. or use photoshop.

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Or you just buy at tagging gun at any office supply store ... and re-attach the tags.

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So here is an update:
Thanks to your advice Bette, I wrote directly to and was offered two breathtaking haute-couture dresses on loan from a major designer for an event abroad. She has a boutique in Paris, so I went there for the meeting and fitting, and I am responsible for the schlepping etc. but I don't mind, I'm kind of used to it. I deliberately chose dresses that were easier to handle fabric-wise. I will have an assistant to prep my dresses and get me dressed, though, as it is very hefty and quite difficult to get in and out of. In return, I am offering as much publicity as I can muster.


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Good for you! Thanks for the update.

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Thanks! Ah, there was one thing I wanted to ask; I have travel insurance for my luggage, is this okay or is there some other insurance I should get?

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I really don't know the answer to that. You are the client not a stylist doing business so it's a different situation. I suggest that you ask you insurance agent.

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Thanks! Ah, there was one thing I wanted to ask; I have travel insurance for my luggage, is this okay or is there some other insurance I should get?
I guess the answer is written in your insurance policy. Read it carefully or call the company.

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Thanks Bette and Ultramarine...I read my travel insurance policy and it covers no more than 3000 euros; the dresses are over five times that. I've been trying to find coverage online but cannot find any!! Any help appreciated.

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did you call your insurance provider for an extension?

i never check expensive gowns on planes. i always carry them with me in a garment bag which i then fold. i suggest you do the same.

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