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@ModelMommy,

If I was to be signed this summer with an NY agency, would my mom have to live in NY with me? Because I can tell you, she will not move for me for modeling.

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^She doesn't have to move with you.

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Also, adding onto my last post, someone told me to just directly walk into an agency and not attend an open call? Is this a good idea or bad idea?

Another question, I have red hair. Does that give me any advantage?
If your parents are definitely not supportive and you're under 18 then you won't be able to sign a contract even with your mother agency pushing you.

You could try to move out to NY for college once you're 18 and model on the side. If you do end up modeling in NY, you will be in debt with your modeling expenses for a while (6 months if you become a superstar or longer). You will also face a lot of things most 18 year olds don't have to deal with like work visas overseas, legal paperwork, taxes etc so it is also good to have supportive parents (agencies are not parents btw). Modeling is emotionally grueling and the people who work in the industry aren't always there to be a true friend so it is very important to have someone back you up.

Which city do you currently model in?

Don't walk into an agency unprepared--without pictures, your book if you have one and the right attire. If you're with a mother agency, let them set up appointments for you. Open calls are usually full of...random "it will never happen" girls but if you really should be modeling, anyone at the agency will be able to see it at an open call.

Red hair doesn't give you an advantage...any girl can dye their hair red.
Models with red hair typically don't do as well as girls with other coloring blue chip wise (top runway, editorials, campaigns) because it's not as versatile. But there is a niche more commercially/catalog wise for models with red hair (hair box, hair advertising)--but you will probably end up cutting it often and dying it often. If you're open to that, you can make some money but not a lot (say around 25K).


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If your parents are definitely not supportive and you're under 18 then you won't be able to sign a contract even with your mother agency pushing you.

You could try to move out to NY for college once you're 18 and model on the side. If you do end up modeling in NY, you will be in debt with your modeling expenses for a while (6 months if you become a superstar or longer). You will also face a lot of things most 18 year olds don't have to deal with like work visas overseas, legal paperwork, taxes etc so it is also good to have supportive parents (agencies are not parents btw). Modeling is emotionally grueling and the people who work in the industry aren't always there to be a true friend so it is very important to have someone back you up.

Which city do you currently model in?

Don't walk into an agency unprepared--without pictures, your book if you have one and the right attire. If you're with a mother agency, let them set up appointments for you. Open calls are usually full of...random "it will never happen" girls but if you really should be modeling, anyone at the agency will be able to see it at an open call.

Red hair doesn't give you an advantage...any girl can dye their hair red.
Models with red hair typically don't do as well as girls with other coloring blue chip wise (top runway, editorials, campaigns) because it's not as versatile. But there is a niche more commercially/catalog wise for models with red hair (hair box, hair advertising)--but you will probably end up cutting it often and dying it often. If you're open to that, you can make some money but not a lot (say around 250K).
I am currently planning a 2 week trip to NY for June. My mom said that she would go with me for about 5-7 days, the rest I will be with my friend in Manhattan. It's not that my mom is completely against it, she just isn't willing to move to change her life for my for it.

I live in Pittsburgh, PA. Terrible modeling opportunities here.

Lol I suppose everything I was told was wrong! A couple people told me that since I was a natural redhead I had better chances since it was so rare. Interesting

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Sorry to keep adding so many things..but I also have a gap in the front of my teeth, kinda like Lara Stone's. I have the option of closing it or keeping it open and I want to keep it open because I thought it would increase my chances with how many models now have "the gap". Bad or good idea?

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I am currently planning a 2 week trip to NY for June. My mom said that she would go with me for about 5-7 days, the rest I will be with my friend in Manhattan. It's not that my mom is completely against it, she just isn't willing to move to change her life for my for it.

I live in Pittsburgh, PA. Terrible modeling opportunities here.

Lol I suppose everything I was told was wrong! A couple people told me that since I was a natural redhead I had better chances since it was so rare. Interesting
If the issue is that your mom just won't travel with you or she doesn't want to come to NY often to chaperone, you can still model. You just won't have her by your side. But lots of models come to NYC alone. I advise you to stay close with your mom and talk to her very openly about the business and jobs--she may offer an adult perspective to making decisions and how to negotiate like an adult (basically get the business respect that very few models have today).

Haircolor has nothing to do with the quality of a model since it can be changed. Most models don't have their natural haircolor. An agency might want you to go strawberry blond or dye it darker red or go brown depending on their plans for you.

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Taylor, I would wait until your trip since it is clear that you wouldn't have support to do anything prior to that. Make sure that you are in the best shape you can possibly be. You could also submit yourself to the top ten agencies in NY, indicate that you plan to visit in NY and see if any respond back. Simple polaroid pictures is all that you would need. With your parents permission, I'd be happy to answer any questions by PM. Good luck!

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Sorry to keep adding so many things..but I also have a gap in the front of my teeth, kinda like Lara Stone's. I have the option of closing it or keeping it open and I want to keep it open because I thought it would increase my chances with how many models now have "the gap". Bad or good idea?
It would honestly depend on the rest of your features. Do you have any current management?

Don't spend the money on closing it without a second opinion. If an agency really loves you then they will let you know what changes you need to make in addition to signing you.

These little things aren't going to increase your chances on getting signed. It's more about your stats, the way you photograph (symmetry, cheekbones, neck etc), your level of modeling. These "feature trends" go in and out. Every agency has a girl with short hair and it might not be in but in the next year it is and they will push her. Lara Stone, Lindsey and all the other girls with the gap were sitting at the sidelines a few years ago but they were still working models because of the bigger picture.

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It would honestly depend on the rest of your features. Do you have any current management?

Don't spend the money on closing it without a second opinion. If an agency really loves you then they will let you know what changes you need to make in addition to signing you.

These little things aren't going to increase your chances on getting signed. It's more about your stats, the way you photograph (symmetry, cheekbones, neck etc), your level of modeling. These "feature trends" go in and out. Every agency has a girl with short hair and it might not be in but in the next year it is and they will push her. Lara Stone, Lindsey and all the other girls with the gap were sitting at the sidelines a few years ago but they were still working models because of the bigger picture.
I appreciate both the advice from both of you.

Right now, no, I'm not with an agency. I thought it would be a waste of time.

TheBlueRider has it correct, my mom is willing to sign a contract/release whatever but she will not live in NY with me IF I get signed.

***Edited . ****
Thank you both very much!


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Taylor, try to take a pass on discussing about your measurements/weight loss on tfs, it's not permitted.

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I'm sorry :/ you can flag the ones I mentioned them in. Won't happen again!

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Open calls are not that common in Germany (I think the only agency doing that in a regular manner is Izaio Models in Berlin). Just use the application form provided on the websites and they will get back to you if they think you are model material.... Viva Models in Berlin is not related to Viva Model Management in London and Paris.
Hamburg is swamped with agencies but most decent commercial deals there run through Place Models and Mega Model Agency. M4 Models has also achieved nice results recenty, just as Modelwerk (but MW tends to push their own editorially). All of the agencies mentioned are very strict about height, so they will most likely not take a 5'7 girl (unless she's 12 or 13). There are a few good agencies outsite of Hamburg... am model management in Cologne represents very cool girls, all equipped with top placements (Louisa Bianchin at DNA, Lena Hard at DNA, Aysche at DNA, Val & Nur at FM), but the owner is also very strict about height/age and the overall look... Otherwise you could try Tomorrow is another Day (Cologne, Düsseldorf) or Quantum 7 Model Management (Cologne, Marburg). Tomorrow is another Day does EXTREMELY well for boys - They represent all their models worldwide and therefore take 50% provision from the jobs. Meisel, Nick Knight, I&V, Rick Owens, Dazed Group etc book the lads regulary, but i highly doubt that clients check TIAD's female division. The air gets thinner the more you get southern - There's S M C in Wiesbaden.. They have a few girls at IMG/Marilyn, but their reputation is evil as they charge for tests and some other reasons. The only agencies worth to be recommand in Munich are Louisa Models and Munich Models. Louisa Models is one of the best agencies for commercial only....
Do you know something about Iconic in Hamburg as well?

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thanks a lot cologne_rocks and agee

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do you need to make a test shoot or your mother agency may send only your polaroids to international agencies?

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do you have to make a test shooting or mother agency may send only your polaroids to international agencies
It depends.
The top agencies just needs polaroids and video, test shoots or editorial shooted in small countries will anyway be completly useless for them. Anyway, most top agencies have scout traveling to see the girls in real before to take final decision.

At a bit lower level, or in asian medium level, test shoot or small edito can help to find agencies as there they need girl ready to work as soon as they arrive.

So it is up to the mother agency to see what they think is needed, but in many case, a girl can make it directly to IMG or the likes with just few polaroid to start...

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