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I don't know whether Michelle ever had highly dramatic roles, but she generally looks so sweet. Her looks belie her toughness. Anyway, with the same hairdo, they can look remarkably similar. Boomer, I didn't know Michelle Phillips was your big adolescent crush. She did look fantastic, almost unreal. But Margaux moves me more, once you get past the looks. Alicia, thanks for the pictures, as always.

^Thanks for all of the pictures! Yes, Michelle had a hypnotic effect on me as well as half of the people who met her and many of the biggest stars in Hollywood! I doubt if anyone has every figured out what it was that led a rather short, slight, little hippie girl to raise havoc in the lives and marriages of so many rich and famous men!
As you say, Margaux always seemed to have that vulnerability to her, always looking like she was one minute away from breaking down in tears…No doubt a lovely young woman, but carrying some very serious personal problems…

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Of course, and she had just such a tragic personal story... She carried her own difficulties, she had, as you note it, an aura of vulnerability floating around her, but, in one sense, she also strikes me for beeing very brave, in her own meaning...
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Margaux Hemingway at The Fabrege-Fawcett party in Studio 54

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^ Ugh- Studio 54...The very last place she ever should have been going...

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I hope I am not being tiresome, but in the last picture you posted, alicia, Margaux now reminds me of Charlotte, especially with your avatar next to it. You are right, Margaux has the tragic etched into her face. Not hysterics, not melodrama, something very real and intense. It almost makes you believe in a sense of destiny, as if she were marked from birth with the knowledge she would follow in her grand-father's footsteps.
I try to see similarities and differences in powerful actresses and think of the roles they could have played. Even though Margaux also reminds me of Monica Vitti, who also has a tragic face, (or Liv Ullman, for that matter), hers is very different. Not lean and aristocratic like Monica in La Notte or L'Aventura, not wholesome yet tortured like Liv according to Bergman, no, Margaux' face is quintessentially American and the epitome of the eighties, the decade of living dangerously. As beautiful as Emmanuelle Beart in Chabrol's "L'Enfer", ("Hell"), but doomed, doomed, doomed. In "L'Enfer", Beart's face remains whole, as it is her husband who projects his own hell onto her, but Margaux's hell is her own creation and her face is, as you say, Boomer, "one minute away from breaking in tears", one minute away from betraying her dark side. She wears her secrets not on her sleeve but on her face, and looking at her is almost painful. Looking at Michelle, by contrast, is always soothing, always a pleasure, she really looks like an angel at times, although according to you, Boomer, it might be more of an angel of temptation.

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^ Yes! But she has really changed, so together and into helping others these days- in that classic Vanity Fair article it was so wonderful, to see how Michelle has moved on from her crazy days...Poor Margaux never really got past her demons...

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I agree. I guess what struck me in your sentence was the word "breaking". There is something fractured about Margaux's face, which comes across clearly in some pictures. As for Michelle, you are right again. I read Joan Collins's beauty book, "My friends' secrets" which has an excellent chapter on Michelle. She has weathered all the storms, building a stronger and stronger sense of her own self. She could be one of the role models in the series "What would 'Michelle' do?", like Audrey and Jackie. As a human being she is very impressive. As a figure standing for something else, more primitive, more human in her frailty and capacity for fall, Margaux touches on something elemental, recessed about us and as the definition of tragedy states, she evokes both horror and pity. Michelle had the free spirit of the sixties and seventies, where the turmoil was everywhere in the culture, Margaux with her fame, beauty, money, pedigree, fell into the narrower fringe bent on self-destruction. I am simplifying, but that's broadly how I see things.

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^ Yes many good points! Unfortunately, this is the picture I think of when I hear Margaux's name...so sad, both she and Halston- how many wonderful people were lost through the disco world and Studio 54, which at the time we all thought was so wonderful and glamorous...


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Indeed, what a pathetic picture, the pose, the posture, the limp wrist too weak to hold the glass steady. She could be a homeless drunk. It's a beautiful picture though, in the journalistic sense. You can sense the decadence all around her, the utter pointlessness of it all.

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I wonder if she was sorry she did "Lipstick"? It was sort of a disgrace after it came out- I can't imagine it did much for her career, unless you want to count the many soft core porn films she did afterwards...

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I loved "Lipstick"! I thought both she and her sister were great in it. I could never understand why the critics hated it.
I understand Mariel never wants to talk about her sister, the memories are too painful.


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I loved "Lipstick"! I thought both she and her sister were great in it. I could never understand why the critics hated it.
I understand Mariel never wants to talk about her sister, the memories are too painful.
Me too! It was such a great and powerful movie in my opinion! And I don't think that Margaux looks haggard in it; her acting is kind of decentred, almost indifferent sometimes, but it emphasizes her character's traumas, and she's good to expresses them, the sadness, the suffering, the shame, and also a desperate need of 'saving' revenge and redemption...

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