Eurasian Beauties

[_teddy_]

Originally Posted by yourbestfriend

Thank you for the links and credits

_teddy_, i've always thought that Kirsten Dunst would be considered to be more caucasian than Sandra Bullock, simply because of the whole "blue blooded" pilgram idea back from the times the settlers came to America. Theyre idea of blue blood, which was the highest form of the "white" race was blue eyed and blonde hair. That was also the ideal Hitler was going for even though he had brown hair

But if you look at just the face then she doesnt look as caucasian. Maybe sandra bullock is a bad example. Lets compare say charliez theron and her, id say theron is more caucasian looking in this case also. Its just something about dunst that doesnt scream 'full caucasian' even though she is with her green eyes and red hair aside. Or maybe even kiristen dunst is a bad example but you know what I mean. You sometimes see caucasian people you dont think look too caucasian. Or a more caucasian looking friend than another caucasian,e tc. But why!? Anyways modern anthropology says race is not a true term anyways to follow in with political correctness.

Oh an interesting thing i noticed is, a lot of hispanic people (spanish) look very eurasian (hapa or whatever)

[morbidexistence]

Don't forget the sources fashionkitten. and i think it would be better to post these pics in renatas's thread...

[nanker_phledge]

I repeat 'oriental' refers to Arabs and Jews from the Middle-East as well even ethnically speaking. Now I'm going to only state myself as an 'Arab' because Asia is apparently the 'privilege' of South-East Asians.

[galviggo]

Originally Posted by _teddy_

But if you look at just the face then she doesnt look as caucasian. Maybe sandra bullock is a bad example. Lets compare say charliez theron and her, id say theron is more caucasian looking in this case also. Its just something about dunst that doesnt scream 'full caucasian' even though she is. Anyways modern anthropology says race is not a true term anyways to follow in with political correctness.

Oh an interesting thing i noticed is, a lot of hispanic people (spanish) look very eurasian (hapa or whatever)

I don't use the term "hapa" but I know others who do in more colloquial sense (I don't mind it though, at least not in the same way I mind the term "Oriental").

Dunst looks very typically German to me, to be frank.

Agree with your Hispanic/Eurasian looks comment except I'd reverse it: a lot of Eurasians end up looking vaguely Hispanic (NOT Spanish, a term which refers to the European Spaniards who are very Caucasian-looking with, usually, dark coloring. Ex: Penelope Cruz, Paz Vega, Eugenia Silva). Yes, that's true imo, I've noticed this "pattern" and I've noticed it since I was a kid. In fact I'd say this vaguely Hispanic look describes about 50% of the Eurasians I've known. About 35% look predominantly East Asian with little Caucasian highlights around the eyes (lidded), skin (fair), and nose (not flat/higher bridge/sometimes retrousse), sometimes in face shape (narrower). I'd say I fall into that 35%. In parts of Asia, that is enough to get you addressed in formal English and treated as an outsider even if you speak the language fluently. And the remaining 15% have a Caucasian base with Asiatic highlights; that is to say, my favorite type when "mixed right". Lucky people... And then there are a few outliers who look really strange: ie neither Caucasian nor east Asian really...very hard to explain. I was trying to describe to my mom what this Chinese-Caucasian boy at school looks like and was at a peculiar loss for words.

Btw, none of those #s are scientific! It's just something I noticed.

[marqueemoon]

Originally Posted by galviggo

I don't use the term "hapa" but I know others who do in more colloquial sense (I don't mind it though, at least not in the same way I mind the term "Oriental").

Dunst looks very typically German to me, to be frank.

Agree with your Hispanic/Eurasian looks comment except I'd reverse it: a lot of Eurasians end up looking vaguely Hispanic (NOT Spanish, a term which refers to the European Spaniards who are very Caucasian-looking with, usually, dark coloring. Ex: Penelope Cruz, Paz Vega, Eugenia Silva). Yes, that's true imo, I've noticed this "pattern" and I've noticed it since I was a kid. In fact I'd say this vaguely Hispanic look describes about 50% of the Eurasians I've known. About 35% look predominantly East Asian with little Caucasian highlights around the eyes (lidded), skin (fair), and nose (not flat/higher bridge/sometimes retrousse), sometimes in face shape (narrower). I'd say I fall into that 35%. In parts of Asia, that is enough to get you addressed in formal English and treated as an outsider even if you speak the language fluently. And the remaining 15% have a Caucasian base with Asiatic highlights; that is to say, my favorite type when "mixed right". Lucky people... And then there are a few outliers who look really strange: ie neither Caucasian nor east Asian really...very hard to explain. I was trying to describe to my mom what this Chinese-Caucasian boy at school looks like and was at a peculiar loss for words.

Btw, none of those #s are scientific! It's just something I noticed.

That's probably because Hispanics are mostly Native American in ethnic make up. There are a few countries in Latin Ameria like Argentina and Brazil where most of the Whites are purely European ethnically, but I don't consider White Brazilians and Argentinians Hispanic.

[_teddy_]

You know I heard that, I believe it was denmark, that their princes (they have 2 sons in the royal family) that the one who married the chinese girl wasnt allowed to be the king even though he was older (and usualy is the one who takes throne after they pass the crown) because then it would be the first time that an asian person would be queen of denmark, whereas the other son was single all the time. Untill one day that son meets an australian girl in australia and then they got together. Now, the younger son is going to take throne because he married the australian girl, who obviously would look and be caucasian.

The point of what is sick about it is, they didnt even care if the person is danish, what matters is that its caucasian (not asian), to be in the throne. I can see their point if they disregarded the asian because she wasnt danish, but they disregarded the asian because she was asian and not caucasian.

[oolie coco]

Wow what an interesting and sad story. Thanks teddy. I will ask my Danish friends about this story.

[galviggo]

Originally Posted by _teddy_

You know I heard that, I believe it was denmark, that their princes (they have 2 sons in the royal family) that the one who married the chinese girl wasnt allowed to be the king even though he was older (and usualy is the one who takes throne after they pass the crown) because then it would be the first time that an asian person would be queen of denmark, whereas the other son was single all the time. Untill one day that son meets an australian girl in australia and then they got together. Now, the younger son is going to take throne because he married the australian girl, who obviously would look and be caucasian.

The point of what is sick about it is, they didnt even care if the person is danish, what matters is that its caucasian (not asian), to be in the throne. I can see their point if they disregarded the asian because she wasnt danish, but they disregarded the asian because she was asian and not caucasian.

Was it Alexandra Manley of Denmark?
http://www.princessalexandradk.net/
I saw her on the news when she got divorced recently (a few months ago?) but I'm not familiar with her story. I think she's 1/4 Chinese.

So I'm scrolling through some of her pictures and although she's obviously past her prime in these she's very attractive...except for the fatigued eyes but I think that's due to age. In some fresher younger photos she stronly resembles Julie Dreyfus (who is not Eurasian).

[galviggo]

Originally Posted by marqueemoon

I've seen her before. She happens to look particularly good here, but I suspect if you saw more of her you wouldn't like her based on your taste.

Hmmm...I just noticed that she looks a bit like Olivia Hussey.

Yes, yes she does! In that beautiful picture especially. I've never seen her before and I don't recall her being a part of the Brasilian wave.

I looked at the other pictures morbidexistence posted and she's soft and pretty in them, but not as beautful as in that headshot. I don't like her mouth (I like the longness of it, but her lips look completely boxed. In every picture. I thought she was just pouting in that first headshot). Also, there's a vague alien quality to her face around the eyes and top of the nose bridge, which is both charming and odd. I think it has to do with the spacing of her eyes, very far apart, and the shape, long and narrow, framing a low nose bridge. Do you see it?

She's more attractive to me than any other Brasilian model I can think of right now, for sure. I wonder what her exact ethnic makeup is.

[yourbestfriend]

I've moved the Renata pictures into her thread

[kassfadei]

Originally Posted by _teddy_

You know I heard that, I believe it was denmark, that their princes (they have 2 sons in the royal family) that the one who married the chinese girl wasnt allowed to be the king even though he was older (and usualy is the one who takes throne after they pass the crown) because then it would be the first time that an asian person would be queen of denmark, whereas the other son was single all the time. Untill one day that son meets an australian girl in australia and then they got together. Now, the younger son is going to take throne because he married the australian girl, who obviously would look and be caucasian.

The point of what is sick about it is, they didnt even care if the person is danish, what matters is that its caucasian (not asian), to be in the throne. I can see their point if they disregarded the asian because she wasnt danish, but they disregarded the asian because she was asian and not caucasian.

If you had bothered to check then you could have noticed that Alexandra Manley married Joachim who is younger than Frederick and has never been the Crown Prince. You are just trying to label someone racist. This is rude.

[violet]

It's ridiculous, of course the term Asian isn't exclusive to Chinese and Japanese. And sure maybe in America 'Asian' means Chinese and Japanese but in Britain 'Asian' refers EXACTLY to Afghanis, Indo-Pakistanis, etc. The Middle East is geographically in Southwest Asia, so of course Lebanese/Arabs are Asians.

And frankly I find the term Caucasian ludicrous and I would hope anyone who knows the etymology of the word would too. The only true Caucasians are those from the Caucasus (Armenians, Azerbaijanis, Georgians), which is incidentally the geographically accepted definition of Eurasia.

Galviggo I don't see why it would be baffling as to why a person would define themself by their continental origin. Having a high-bridged nose or tall build does not equate to being 'Caucasian'. I hope you don't believe that as no physical traits are exclusive to any ethnic group.

[marqueemoon]

Originally Posted by violet

It's ridiculous, of course the term Asian isn't exclusive to Chinese and Japanese. And sure maybe in America 'Asian' means Chinese and Japanese but in Britain 'Asian' refers EXACTLY to Afghanis, Indo-Pakistanis, etc. The Middle East is geographically in Southwest Asia, so of course Lebanese/Arabs are Asians.

And frankly I find the term Caucasian ludicrous and I would hope anyone who knows the etymology of the word would too. The only true Caucasians are those from the Caucasus (Armenians, Azerbaijanis, Georgians), which is incidentally the geographically accepted definition of Eurasia.

Galviggo I don't see why it would be baffling as to why a person would define themself by their continental origin. Having a high-bridged nose or tall build does not equate to being 'Caucasian'. I hope you don't believe that as no physical traits are exclusive to any ethnic group.

Do you believe it is wrong to describe somebody as black or white?

[galviggo]

Originally Posted by violet

It's ridiculous, of course the term Asian isn't exclusive to Chinese and Japanese. And sure maybe in America 'Asian' means Chinese and Japanese but in Britain 'Asian' refers EXACTLY to Afghanis, Indo-Pakistanis, etc. The Middle East is geographically in Southwest Asia, so of course Lebanese/Arabs are Asians.

And frankly I find the term Caucasian ludicrous and I would hope anyone who knows the etymology of the word would too. The only true Caucasians are those from the Caucasus (Armenians, Azerbaijanis, Georgians), which is incidentally the geographically accepted definition of Eurasia.

Galviggo I don't see why it would be baffling as to why a person would define themself by their continental origin. Having a high-bridged nose or tall build does not equate to being 'Caucasian'. I hope you don't believe that as no physical traits are exclusive to any ethnic group.

Must be differences in upbringing. I've heard that in the UK one refers to Pakistani, Indian,... as Asian, but I'm American, raised here in the US, and believe me when an American says "Asian" he typically means "East Asian." If they mean to refer to an "Indian" they will say Indian, and if they mean "middle eastern" they will say exactly that. Most Americans I know define Asian according to race which is all I'm trying to say.

Now some people don't like neither the geographical nor the racial definition. If you called my American by nationality ex (who is of Alexandrian and Asiatic Turk descent) "Asian," since "by geography" he "technically" is "Asian," he would be most offended and take the opportunity to correct you. My definition is no more right or wrong than yours; rather you choose a geographical basis for your definition whereas I prefer racial. On his application forms he checked "other" as it did not include "middle eastern" and he was eventually categorized as Caucasian (since racially that is precisely what he is, but try telling that to him).

I never said certain physical traits were exclusive to Caucasians (or to Asians); at most I hinted that these traits were more likely/much more often found in Caucasians (and other traits in Asians). I made wide, sweeping generalizations as are necessary to avoid going into the minutest of details about my varied background. I hate it when people assume "oh, so squinty eyes automatically means you're Asian? So no Caucasians have squinty eyes? What, Asians can't be tall?" It really annoys the piss out of me! Unless that person is really, truly going to say that they don't notice physical differences between Asian and Caucasian, which I just don't buy.

[_teddy_]

Originally Posted by kassfadei

If you had bothered to check then you could have noticed that Alexandra Manley married Joachim who is younger than Frederick and has never been the Crown Prince. You are just trying to label someone racist. This is rude.

um.. well... somebody told me that story.. and geez chill out lol