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My brother said this a few days ago:

"Let's face it; to be a model, you essentially have to have no morals."

I don't know why precisely why he thinks that, but it does seem to be a relatively prevalent concept in general culture.

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that anyone can be a model...i think it takes a strong personality and alot of confidence to make it. i worked for an agency and assisted on photoshoots and even the most physically beautiful girls could leave that place in tears or feeling as small as an ant and never wanting to model again...these young girls are ripped to shreds and get yelled at alot.
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My brother said this a few days ago:

"Let's face it; to be a model, you essentially have to have no morals."

I don't know why precisely why he thinks that, but it does seem to be a relatively prevalent concept in general culture.
some page 6 and glamour models have better morals than some choir girls

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My brother said this a few days ago:

"Let's face it; to be a model, you essentially have to have no morals."

I don't know why precisely why he thinks that, but it does seem to be a relatively prevalent concept in general culture.
I think they have morals and are generally nice people, who do great things, well I have seen a lot of them like this but I do think modelling can at some point make some one feel free, even though they get told to do things, they have to do certain things, I think there is an element of freedom in the creativity of specific shoots, in meeting new people, exploring and travelling the world, in support models can receive and in expressions and poses you see in images- I think there is element of freedom. I am actually speaking from my own experience of modelling, I feel the element of freedom. This may be why people think models have no morals.

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it wasnt a huge ny agency or anything but the models were still going to milan and paris and actually make great money but there is just a huge mis conception that this business is all glamour and champagne imo. (sure, for major models it is). one girl actually got signed after her test shoot and made $900 in one day but wanted nothing to do with modeling after her first shoot. she was very shy and this is why i think it takes a thicker skin to really make it. so i disagree alot when ppl say anyone tall and thin can be a model. sure that gets ya noticed but its not enough to keep ya there.
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Some people think that modelling is easy and don't seem to understand that models don't just get their photos taken, they have to portray the part, adapt to the mood-board and atmosphere, take direction when given, be able to express the right poses and understand their bodies, use their confidence and be good with giving expressions, it's similar to acting.

The only thing I am wondering about right now, is it true that models have another job on the side? I know there have been models in education but is it true that models also have another job on the side and what?


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Most people I know have like a wow and ew reaction to modeling, like they think it's a fun thing to do for a while but eventually you have to go back and pursue an academic life, and since most well-known models don't, they're usually like 'aw, she's so pretty, but what a drag to be undereducated'.

Another misconception among friends is that models are like child actors , like they were pushed into lingerie or catalogs since like 12 (not that far from reality in some cases), by their parents or some sect-like agency, they're usually like "poor girls".

Oh and the most common one is that they wear a TON of makeup and makeup artists go out of their way with tricks to make them look flawless. This one's so common among girls, and they're like 'yeah, right' whenever I mention that I've seen pictures of them backstage and they actually look like that.

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That reminds me actually, I am sure some people think that models are always airbrushed in photos but I know that on a lot of occasions models are only tweaked and not airbrushed as much as you think.

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That modelling is a glamorous job.

It can certainly be glamorous for some models but not for the majority. And even then, those models who are able to live a more glamorous lifestyle will probably have begun modelling in very unglamorous circumstances. There's a lot of tough criticism, late nights and travelling.

I also think that employment legislators undervalue or misconceive modelling as a profession. There is shockingly little legislation to protect girls who are often under age and working in a foreign country. Models can work ridiculous hours (fittings which go on into the early hours, for instance,) are paid incredibly little especially when they've just started out (or they're paid in trade) and work in conditions that many would find uncomfortable (I remember watching an interview with Anja Rubik who said that when she started modelling, girls all got changed in separate cubicles backstage but now they're often crammed into a small room, for instance.) Younger models can be quite easily taken advantage of without the right guidance.

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I think they have morals and are generally nice people, who do great things, well I have seen a lot of them like this but I do think modelling can at some point make some one feel free, even though they get told to do things, they have to do certain things, I think there is an element of freedom in the creativity of specific shoots, in meeting new people, exploring and travelling the world, in support models can receive and in expressions and poses you see in images- I think there is element of freedom. I am actually speaking from my own experience of modelling, I feel the element of freedom. This may be why people think models have no morals.
That is an interesting way to view it, but I think what causes most people to think this way is much simpler. I think people see models dressed provocatively or perhaps topless/nude and automatically assume that they are unsavory people because of it. You see, to those of us here on tFS who have some understanding and experience with fashion, skimpy clothing and nudity are nothing all that strange, but to an average non-fashion knowledgeable person, even something relatively innocuous like a standard lingerie catalog can be perceived as highly sexual due to the overarching hyper-sexualization of our culture and mindsets. And to many people, if something is perceived as sexual outside of certain conditions, it is considered immoral, and the people involved with it's production are considered immoral also.

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That is an interesting way to view it, but I think what causes most people to think this way is much simpler. I think people see models dressed provocatively or perhaps topless/nude and automatically assume that they are unsavory people because of it. You see, to those of us here on tFS who have some understanding and experience with fashion, skimpy clothing and nudity are nothing all that strange, but to an average non-fashion knowledgeable person, even something relatively innocuous like a standard lingerie catalog can be perceived as highly sexual due to the overarching hyper-sexualization of our culture and mindsets. And to many people, if something is perceived as sexual outside of certain conditions, it is considered immoral, and the people involved with it's production are considered immoral also.
Oh yeah I see, I just think models need to develop confidence and not let what others say ruin them, it can be hard for models being criticised, I often hear a lot of people say that it depends on the type of modelling, every one is against glamour but consider high fashion nudes to be beautiful and tasteful.

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Oh yeah I see, I just think models need to develop confidence and not let what others say ruin them, it can be hard for models being criticised, I often hear a lot of people say that it depends on the type of modelling, every one is against glamour but consider high fashion nudes to be beautiful and tasteful.
That brings up another issue: many people either do not know the difference or see no difference between different types of modeling. An average person may lump all types of modeling together. They may think of an artsy high fashion nude shoot the same way as they think of a bunch of pictures of a porn star because, once again, society's sex obsession won't allow them to see it differently. Thus, the most beautiful high fashion nude photos get reduced to "omg boobs!".

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That brings up another issue: many people either do not know the difference or see no difference between different types of modeling. An average person may lump all types of modeling together. They may think of an artsy high fashion nude shoot the same way as they think of a bunch of pictures of a porn star because, once again, society's sex obsession won't allow them to see it differently. Thus, the most beautiful high fashion nude photos get reduced to "omg boobs!".
I suppose every one has a different mind set, I know that some photographers and speaking from my own experience will shoot nudes/ lingerie yet not lust after the model... some photographers are happily married and don't let them selves see models as sex objects

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One big misconception I hear about a lot is that models are always secure with their looks and their bodies, when in fact they are probably the most insecure people on the planet because they are always being scrutinized for how they look/walk/dress/etc.

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