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Seattle Model Guild and Hefner Model Management are both quite reputable.

Vancouver/Alberta I'd recommend Liz Bell, Richards and Key Model Management (in that order). Mode Models has a great reputation as well (in Alberta.) (these are all mostly mother agents but have small client bases in their home markets.)

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News: D'Management Group Milan + Brave Models Milan

http://www.dmanagementgroup.com/

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Wayne Sterling, Stacey Eastman and Neal Hamil apparently are about to found their own NY agency (Mix Model Management) starting from September 2012. No idea if it's a management agency or only scouting, latter would not be so amusing but rather realistic ....

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what a random bunch, and does nyc need another agency.. already elite paris are in the works of opening in new york

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what a random bunch, and does nyc need another agency.. already elite paris are in the works of opening in new york
Elite Model Management splinter groups?

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what a random bunch, and does nyc need another agency.. already elite paris are in the works of opening in new york
Really. The agencies that exist already are having a difficult time making money as it is and the top girls making big bucks have zero commission deals with their agencies already. How do these new agencies plan on actually making money in this economy.

And Wayne Sterling starting an agency? I guess MDC Top 50 will be all of his girls.

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Seriously, I can't imagine Wayne Sterling being both as involved in an agency and keeping his status at Models.com, it would be like if people like Jeni Rose, Scott Lipps or Heinz Holba suddenly started a competitor of MDC... surely every weird situation is possible but I keep believing that he wouldn't dare to push it that far.

Then, even if I'm always excited, interested or, at least, curious when I hear about such a new project, there are a few details bothering me in that story. I've watched the video of introduction twice and it sounds very "I've done this while he's done that and we've been there" rather than explaining how this new agency will be different from the numerous ones already existing. A kind of "dream-team" on the paper doesn't necessarily means a fast future success. You need more than names and reputation to build up a strong management company, especially today when competition is tough and opportunities aren't legions. Let's remember some of the most successful stories when it comes to recent agencies were started in a relative silence. Who, except insiders, well-informed outsiders and their clients, really knew who were Eric Dubois or Steve Dellar before their companies had some frank breakthroughs? On the other side, Paul Rowland's Ford didn't exactly live up the expectations and hype. The way they introduce Mix Model Management let me fear that it falls into the second category, unfortunately. Though, I sincerely hope they'll prove me wrong and I hope to be surprised in time...

Also, another point that leaves me full of doubts is how they describe the more or less revolutionary approach of their agency. American models as the future of the business? Sounds like old news to me. Name me one agency in New York that isn't already getting a large part of its new faces from the USA. The country is huge and offers endless scouting possibilities plus a wide range of diversified looks which makes it very appealing for an agency. This, and also the fact these girls won't need visas, don't suffer from the language bareer and so on. That's why you already see a lot of American beauties at Next, IMG and others. And, for sure Pulse Management is a great name when it comes to US scouting systems but the big machine didn't really do better than smaller companies (think of Mother Management and others). So, if Stacey Eastman is certainly a good addition to the team but, in no way, a guarantee.

Time will tell for sure, and while many aspects are unclear, I hope they didn't unveil everything yet and keep some surprises for later... Wishful thinking?

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already elite paris are in the works of opening in new york
Not much surprised when I read this... Since Louie was hired to head Elite NY, you could feel that the direction will be rather selective (tiny number of new faces per season combined to a solid roster of "big names"). While Elite Paris has become like a "baby IMG" these last few years by gathering tons of "models in development", due to their impressive scouting network (including the EML contest first of all).
The gap between these two systems certainly tells a lot on why a collaboration wouldn't be the easiest and the soundest thing in the world.

Meanwhile, Elite NY seems to work well with Oui Management already and it looks like they share a lot more than the two Elites.
And, Elite Paris got stronger and stronger these last years while they haven't managed yet to fix the situation overseas when it comes to finding the perfect partner. They used to work with One and New York Models, tried to work again with Elite NY then started with Ford plus some casual connections with Trump or Marilyn.

All in all, it sounds weird only because they share the same name (and logo...) but if you look at the agencies history or the people's stories (like Louie who comes from Women and back then, you could already see a big difference between the NY office and it's European sisters), it's not surprising at all such things are likely to happen and the two have to be considered as dramatically different entities.

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Really. The agencies that exist already are having a difficult time making money as it is and the top girls making big bucks have zero commission deals with their agencies already. How do these new agencies plan on actually making money in this economy.

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The answer is in your question...
since few years, there are more and more money backing from people with hugely deep pocket, who has absolutly no plan to make money in modeling, who just put money in agencies for reasons which goes from personal entertainement to cleaning dirty money for a couple of years...
it always existed, but it gets worst the last years.


In Milan and paris, if you take the last 2-3 years, absolutly all the few new agencies born are ALL money backed from people who has absolutly no intention to make any money of them.

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It's my understanding that Mix (www.mixmodelmgmt.com, btw) is only working with Pulse as a mother agent. The video was made for Pulse as a testimonial to Stacey's scouting abilities... which he uses to promote and scout models in his own market. I don't think that he is a member of their team. I'm sure they will hire a director of scouting at some point or tackle it on their own.

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The answer is in your question...
since few years, there are more and more money backing from people with hugely deep pocket, who has absolutly no plan to make money in modeling, who just put money in agencies for reasons which goes from personal entertainement to cleaning dirty money for a couple of years...
it always existed, but it gets worst the last years.


In Milan and paris, if you take the last 2-3 years, absolutly all the few new agencies born are ALL money backed from people who has absolutly no intention to make any money of them.
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I'm not sure how true this is .....if you look at silent and oui, monster.. it does not appear they are backed from such people. it's not a ford new york situation with these agencies

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I'm not sure how true this is .....if you look at silent and oui, monster.. it does not appear they are backed from such people. it's not a ford new york situation with these agencies
in your list, i would rather say that only one ofthe 3 is not concerned by "dark" money backing

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Here's the video penny609 was talking about, if anyone was curious to see it.



Really interesting.. I don't see how Wayne Sterling can stay at MDC and have his own agency? Surely MDC would lose all credibility (or whatever credibility it has left )

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Really interesting.. I don't see how Wayne Sterling can stay at MDC and have his own agency? Surely MDC would lose all credibility (or whatever credibility it has left )
Just fyi, Betty Sze with Models.com manages to juggle her job there, and being very opinionated on Twitter.

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Just fyi, Betty Sze with Models.com manages to juggle her job there, and being very opinionated on Twitter.
It is not really the same. In Betty's case she combines her official job (at Models.com) with personal thoughts on Twitter and many people do it, also here on TFS. Some members do work for companies or agencies while posting unbiased (not always but still) comments, information or views. In Wayne's case, his position will be more... let's say "trouble". Of course, seeing all his models getting all the best spots of MDC's rankings won't happen, I guess the person who made this comment obviously exaggerated his words to put emphasis on how such an odd situation can grow into a weirder one. In other fields than fashion I've been involved or interested in (going from cattle breeding to politics), similar situations have never brought anything good at all. And, if I seriously doubt Wayne would favor his own models quite openly, his new position will certainly influence his other work, one way or another.

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