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19-01-2011
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^I would say facial features and skin tone. It's all well and good to have a model who has an underrepresented ethnicity, but if she looks the same as all the European girls, she's not really representing a more inclusive idea of beauty.

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The casting at this season's men's shows have been abysmal...racial diversity applies to men as well as women you know ?

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20-01-2011
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Models like Alek Wek are once in a generation. But yeah, the modeling industry prides itself on appreciating different types of beauty, but in reality, it accepts few models with strong "ethnic" features like Wek.

It's worse on the male modeling side. On the male modeling side, it's the archetype of the white teenage parisian boy. Even minority models tend to have "white" features that are unique to their native country.

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Eye color and the perception of beauty



from 9GAG.com

I saw it and immediatelly thought of this thread. I saw it and then started thinking whether is it possible to detach color from the concept of race. A color is just a color and there are rules of what would look good on some colors and then some others wont.

I mean my skin is tanned/brown. Now that mags are using the bleached eyebrow look on lots of editorials, I would love to pull it off but I think only caucasian and probably asian people can do it.

Is this one of the factors why isnt it so varied out there for the models?

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This is NOT diversity, sorry......
@EasyCool- I see where you were trying to go however the list you have provided is not good representation of racial nor ethnic diversity, you explained nationality and heritage based on nationality. Non of these women are making strides or paving roads for roads for other women either. Let me break down the list you have for you the way it is seen by the masses.


lady gaga -italian descent - WHITE
rihanna - barbados descent - BLACK
megan fox - french, irish, native american descent - WHITE
sofia vergara - south central american descent - HISPANIC
Kardashian's - armenian, dutch, scottish descent - WHITE with bad tans

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^You may not think that they are, but they are.

You may not see it that way, but they all are ethnic women.

How is Rihanna not paving the way, she is extremely Main Stream.

But let me say, I completely respect you opinion. Moderators I know this is about models, so I am done talking about celebrities.

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Yes, it is about models but I addressed as more than just opinion because some people view celebs in the same light as they view models. As a black American, Rhianna is not an influence on me or any other black woman I have ever met/known so for us she is not what comes to mind as paving anything, Sade yes. We are all "ethnic" since it relates to place of origin. Yes the thread is about models, models of "racial diversity" not "ethnic origin" I only brought it up because in saying the above be careful you may offend someone and not even know it.

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while you guys talk about celebs I want to revisit the statement about the mens shows... it thought that there were an exceptional amount of minority boys on the runway

even when you exclude givenchy and walter beirendock(sp) shows you still saw Zakhiere, Luis Borges, David Agbodji, Corey Baptiste and Sacha M'Baye. And like I said that's excluding beirendock which was all black and also Givenchy which had a slew of black boys from New York. And the names are listed are just ones I remember because they are models I follow and I haven't even gotten into the other minorities.

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@markese91 from some of the videos I saw of the show their were more minority men, which is good to see them making strides because as we know men so often get overlooked when it comes to these debates.

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It is important to acknowledge the change in attitudes towards different ethnicities over the generations. An uncle (now 87 so please understand) recently told me that "black can't be beautiful". No amount of examples of beautiful black people could convince him otherwise.

In contrast, my children (aged 15, 16 and 18) live in a very culturally diverse city and have friends of many ethnicities. I don't think they even register the color of a persons skin as an important attribute.

So, given that generational difference, and given the age of a lot of influential people in the fashion industry, maybe it is not surprising that there is a view that black/asian/indian models need to be treated in a different way.

Lets hope that in a few years models will be promoted for beauty and ability rather than color.

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^You may not think that they are, but they are.

You may not see it that way, but they all are ethnic women.
OK it's ridiculous to act like the differences society sees between an Italian woman and a Swedish woman are the same as the way popular culture views the differences between a black and a white woman.

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I'm really glad about the massive changes on the matter of black and oriental Asians getting really high profile work, but I can't help but think: "Why are the Japanese, Korean and Chinese women getting all the work when there are more beautiful people in Asia?" For example, the Filipinos, Malaysians, Singaporeans, and other nationalities from the Southeast part of Asia. I know for a fact that Indian model Lakshmi Menon got a taste of the hf world, but where is she now? Is she just another "gimmick" from Riccardo Tisci? When will we see the likes of Lakshmi or Charlene to be on the same heights as Shu Pei, Liu Wen or Tao Okamoto?

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What did people think about the L.A.M.B. Fall show in this regard? Seems to me it was the most diverse of the ladies' shows, but as style.com review opined, the girls were grouped by race. Hmmmm. It is great to have a mix of models but why not mix them up in the show? Maybe she was going for a cultural diversity / global thing?

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The fashion industry is undoubtedly run by Caucasians/White-Europeans --these are the editors of the top magazines, designers we see at MBFW, heads of the major production companies, photographers of major publications, agents at modeling agencies....

Accordingly, that patterned has trickled down to models whom are the products of everyone in those positions previously stated...

When we see diversity at the top, we'll see diversity in the final products.

It's that simple

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at the end of the day magazines will only start using black/asian models as supporting models. For example the new interview editorial will have 99% white models and then one or two asian models in the background. its the same story!!

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