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I will never accept Karlie or Kate as supers, the former has no commercial appeal watsoever (Natalia or Isabeli are much more of supermodels than her) and the latter has done nothing noticeable in high fashion. I feel like there are no supermodel worthy figures nowadays. There are girls who are very successful in the world of high fashion, there are those who are famous for their swimsuit/lingerie work and/or relationships with famous actors/singers but there is no one who does it and has it all. Can't say I am happy about it
I agree about Natalia & Isabeli, they're so much better and 'versatile' (I hate this word )

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Isabeli is everything TBH her career has been a dream. IF she would hace accepted the VS CONTRACT she would have been SOO MAJOR.

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no one would accept kate moss as a supermodel if they see her in real life. but the girl is amazing in prints.

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A supermodel is mainly about cross over appeal not the ammount of high fashion work she has done. Kate Upton and Karlie have a higher shot at becoming supers because they have in oyour face personalities which talkshows and Hollywood like and thats what brings about cross over appeal. Kate Upton is a supermodel in the same way as the original supers as much as she hasnt yet achieved a smuch as they did. She has done the mega commercial ad, several viral youtube videos, hollywood movies, featured in entertainment channel news stories, mens magazines, teeenage boy's walls and most importantly has conquered the world of high fashion.

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Isabeli is everything TBH her career has been a dream. IF she would hace accepted the VS CONTRACT she would have been SOO MAJOR.
I dont think she would have reached supermodel status coz she doesnt fare well when it comes to the press. Supermodels tend to be extra confident on screen almost going to brash

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So if a model marries a Hollywood superstar, goes to the talk shows, takes a few shots here and there, she is automatically a supermodel? I tend to disagree, the quality of work does matter, otherwise you are just a famous person who is photographed from time to time. And I don't think Kate or Karlie are that familiar to the general public, at least outside of the USA, and let alone commercial appeal of Karlie


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no one would accept kate moss as a supermodel if they see her in real life. but the girl is amazing in prints.
People often say Kate is not pretty or not modelelisque, I disagree, with her slender fisigue and fantastic bone structure she looks like a model in real life, while even the best photographers and make-up artists can't make Karlie's face look attractive

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So if a model marries a Hollywood superstar, goes to the talk shows, takes a few shots here and there, she is automatically a supermodel? I tend to disagree, the quality of work does matter, otherwise you are just a famous person who is photographed from time to time. And I don't think Kate or Karlie are that familiar to the general public, at least outside of the USA, and let alone commercial appeal of Karlie
That's what the media wants people to think. Obviously us TFSers know better, but do you think that normal folks really know the difference? They don't. Bar Rafaeli gets called a supermodel all the time, but all she's done is SI...and Leonardo Dicaprio .

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People often say Kate is not pretty or not modelelisque, I disagree, with her slender fisigue and fantastic bone structure she looks like a model in real life, while even the best photographers and make-up artists can't make Karlie's face look attractive
In Your opinion.


Kate Upton is becoming a known figure in households across America. She might not be my type of model, but I can see her becoming famous like Heidi Klum.

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Karlie is already on her way to becoming a big supermodel. She already has all the tools to get her there: HF support (Meisel), Anna Wintour's support, a VS contract, & a TV show (House of Style). So yeah, she is basically a supermodel in the making, but I don't understand why people act like she could be the only one. Joan can be a supermodel too. She has HF support (Mert & Marcus), Anna Wintour's support, an EL contract, & a TV show (House of Style). Both girls can use all of this & make a huge career out of it. I could totally see Joan & Karlie getting into more hosting gigs, even shows like The Face. They're also the only two who HF models who get press that is solely about them, not about things they're promoting. Both of them can be supermodels.


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Karlie is already on her way to becoming a big supermodel. She already has all the tools to get her there: HF support (Meisel), Anna Wintour's support, a VS contract, & a TV show (House of Style). So yeah, she is basically a supermodel in the making, but I don't understand why people act like she could be the only one. Joan can be a supermodel too. She has HF support (Mert & Marcus), Anna Wintour's support, an EL contract, & a TV show (House of Style). Both girls can use all of this & make a huge career out of it. I could totally see Joan & Karlie getting into more hosting gigs, even shows like The Face. They're also the only two who HF models who get press that is solely about them, not about things they're promoting. Both of them can be supermodels.
yeah they both can have it,but Karlie will be the only one to really be the Top Model. sure they both have a contract (but Karlie doesnt "play" anybodies background) they also have "HF SUPPORT" (but again KARLIE is way ahead of Joan,KK covers are iconic,as for Joan,her only great/good cover was VAUS,the rest have been bad) and Karlie is barely 20 YRS OLD! N Joan is... well who knows how old she is.

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yeah they both can have it,but Karlie will be the only one to really be the Top Model. sure they both have a contract (but Karlie doesnt "play" anybodies background) they also have "HF SUPPORT" (but again KARLIE is way ahead of Joan,KK covers are iconic,as for Joan,her only great/good cover was VAUS,the rest have been bad) and Karlie is barely 20 YRS OLD! N Joan is... well who knows how old she is.
Saying they both can have it, then saying Karlie will be the only top model makes absolutely no sense . If they both can be supermodels, then great! I don't think age even matters for Joan at this point. She's already done the most prestigious campaigns out there, she's got a big contract, & she's hosting a TV show alongside Karlie. All she needs is more big covers & more exposure, which will happen overtime. It just urkes me to hear people say that Karlie is the only girl of this generation who can make it, when Joan has the resume to make it too. Look at Joan's number of twitter followers, look at all the articles written about her, look at how many times she's been on MTV, etc. CNN did a story about her. Her EL commercials play on TV all the time. This is not Valerie Mazza we're talking about here. This is a girl with an insane amount of A-list work under her belt & growing fame.


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Saying they both can have it, then saying Karlie will be the only top model makes absolutely no sense . If they both can be supermodels, then great! I don't think age even matters for Joan at this point. She's already done the most prestigious campaigns out there, she's got a big contract, & she's hosting a TV show alongside Karlie. All she needs is more big covers & more exposure, which will happen overtime. It just urkes me to hear people say that Karlie is the only girl of this generation who can make it, when Joan has the resume to make it too. Look at Joan's number of twitter followers, look at all the articles written about her, look at how many times she's been on MTV, etc. CNN did a story about her. Her EL commercials play on TV all the time. This is not Valerie Mazza we're talking about here. This is a girl with an insane amount of A-list work under her belt & growing fame.
they Both can but only Karlie will

http://www.newnownext.com/louis-vuit...kloss/04/2013/

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they Both can but only Karlie will

http://www.newnownext.com/louis-vuit...kloss/04/2013/
I'm not going to have an article war with you. For every article Karlie has about her, I can find one of Joan that is just as big.

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You just dont get. If you really think joan is one the same level as Karlie then good for her

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