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29-03-2004
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New York vs Los Angeles
Nicole Richie is the poster child for the worst of L.A. style.
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March 29, 2004 -- IF you've been shopping lately, you can't help but notice massive amounts of (really) miniskirts, shredded T-shirts and midriff-baring tops.

And we're not just talking H&M.

At Bloomie's. At Scoop. At Intermix. Even Barneys is selling $720 shorts. Shorts! (Note to designers: New Yorkers don't wear shorts.)

What's the problem? Los Angeles, apparently.

This week, that city plays host to its second Fashion Week. To kick off the festivities, let's ship back the Paris Hilton-inspired junk their fine designers have been sending us.

A few weeks ago, Laurie Cearley hit J. Crew, the Gap and Club Monaco to get ready for a mid-winter trip to Australia.

"I had no problem finding hot weather, beachy wear - tank tops, linen skirts, flip-flops," says Cearley, a Manhattan performing-arts curator.





"But there was not a lot out there that I would wear to my office."

Therein lies the problem: Most New Yorkers can't - and won't - wear L.A. looks during the week.

"Miniskirts are inappropriate for work," rants a TV producer who has been harassed on 43rd Street for sporting a skirt three inches above her knee, "or anywhere in New York."

She went shopping recently at boutiques in Williamsburg and NoLIta and walked out empty-handed.

"No way would I buy any of this stuff," she scoffs.

Sportswear designer Nonie Sauer was similarly frustrated: "I had to go to Saks for a suit," she complains.

"Even the designers you used to be able to count on for suit pieces" - Chaiken, Tahari, Theory - "are making all of this off-the-shoulder '80s crap."

What are designers thinking?

"To tell you the truth, I don't know!" says designer Julia Neaman, whose feminine, un-L.A. collection sells at Barneys New York, Macy's West, Nordstrom and Fred Segal.

(Full disclosure: Neaman's spring line includes a pair of shorts. They were, she contends, an inside joke.)

"I was at Barneys a couple of months ago looking around and was like, 'What happened? Did all of L.A. move to New York?'" she says.

"With my collection, there's stuff that's cool and sexy, but you could wear it to work if you wanted to."

"Shopping has lost meaning for me," echoes Alexandra Jacobs, the New York Observer's West Coast editor. "I used to take such joy in it."

Jacobs, a native New Yorker, claims she wears sweats in L.A. because "you never see anyone there unless you make an appointment. So there is no risk you're going to get caught."

Recently, she's been so L.A.-ed, her husband told her she looked like a homeless person.

So who's really to blame for the Left Coast invasion?

It's not just California designers - Marc by Marc Jacobs is just as guilty of the L.A. look as Juicy Couture.

It's the people who popularized the trend: stars like Nicole Richie, Kate Hudson, Jessica Simpson - and of course, Hilton herself. And let's not forget J.Lo and her velour sweats.

We say leave those ripped minis on the Sunset Strip - and come back when you're ready to dress like a grown up.

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thanks for the article .....

so true

ripped minis, uggs, flip flops, velour, off the shoulder, pastel colors,
streaked hair, tank tops, newsboy hats...... the list goes on.

these items are dominating all the shops i do not dress like this and i spend 60% of my time in LA ! i cant even tell the difference between high end and low end clothing anymore due to the awful mass production of reality tv, california bred, sitcom , hollywood teen, cosmo looks all the shop windows look the same.....no matter the clientel. i stick out like a sore thumb when i wear a black taloired coat. nobody even wears shoes that cover their feet anymore! I esp. cannot imagine these looks to be reasonable in NYC.

sure i have some mini's but i pair them with nice flats or mid calf boots, and a nice tailored blazer. i hate this straight off the beach/ trash look, not to mention everything is pastel. I cant even shop anymore seriously. thank god for the lady- like looks back in style, because i just took all my cocktail dresses from (my grandmother's closet ) to the tailor !

sinse i got the 80's out of my sysytem when it was actually in style, and on the runways, im so over many of the 80's looks, my closte is in the midst of a dramatic change

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Can of worms, Softgrey, can of worms, like any LA/NY discussion

And what are you doing reading that rag, Post?!

I think the author needs to replace "LA" with "POP-CULTURE".

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Maybe it's because I'm originally from the shore (though not a beach person at all), but I don't think there's anything so terribly wrong with wearing a tank and flip-flops on a warm day (not to the workplace, of course, but if you're shopping, running errands, or are a student). It gets hot over here too, and a tank or tee, skirt (knee-length ) and sandals are my casual summer uniform. I've been reconsidering my wardrobe lately (as I'm about to graduate from college and I am doing the job search thing) and I'd like to have some separation between work clothes and play clothes (for a few reasons, one of which is to preserve/extend the life of my work clothes).

But yes, those LA trends that Lo mentioned are mostly pretty gross.

Can I add ra-ra skirts to the list?

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I just have to say that I laugh when I see the sales people at Hollister or Abercrombie and Fitch. It's the middle of winter in Chicago, and they are wearing miniskirts, tanks, and flip flops. And 99% of them are blonde as well. I wish they would understand that we are a long ways from the sunny beaches of California.

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Originally posted by faust@Mar 29th, 2004 - 5:18 pm
Can of worms, Softgrey, can of worms, like any LA/NY discussion

And what are you doing reading that rag, Post?!

I think the author needs to replace "LA" with "POP-CULTURE".
just trying to keep thing interesting my love...


ps.the article was a link from another site...
i don't actually read the post...haha

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I love the beach look... its so comfy and carefree, and reminds me of happy times! And isn't that what clothes should do - make you feel happy? I'm in Toronto, so.... not much shorts and flip flops for me (until the summer)

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I've also noticed that the beach look is really popular in Canada during the summer. I guess it's such a nice relief from the cold that people want to wear as little clothes as possible. I just think it's inappropriate for the office and too soon to be wearing flip flops on the first day of spring.

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I have no problem with the LA style. I personally take SOME inspiration from it when putting outfits together. What I do have a problem with is those obnoxious girls who think that they are fashion it girls because they have Juicy hoodies, Uggs, and Louis Vuitton pouch bags. I have Uggs, and some Juicy, but I wear them when I am lazy and don't feel like putting real clothes/shoes on, I don't walk around like I own the world when I am wearing them.

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This is oen fo the msot bull **** fashiona rticles I ahve read in a long time. i doutn udnerstand how they cans ay this is all la when itin nYc, and jsut abotu eveyr other city in the world. Its trendy. I thinks ome bitchy new yorks are just trying to dis LA.

trash is every where

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Okay..relax lol

Each city has its goods and bads.. Ive lived in both... currently in NYC.

LA is more laid back...NYC isnt... when in Cali.. I always had open toe shoes...and I dressed real casual... here in nyc I can layer up b/c its cold and I can put on more pieces so I wouldnt say you can be more "trendy" in nyc.. but you have a lot more options. Nyc has a lot of flava..and a lot of diff people with diff taste... plus we are all congested in this city..unlike in LA where its all spread out.. well anyhow..let me not rant on lol Ill continue later

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Speaking of beaches... I just got this beach tote today
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Originally posted by Spacemiu@Mar 30th, 2004 - 3:09 pm
This is oen fo the msot bull **** fashiona rticles I ahve read in a long time. i doutn udnerstand how they cans ay this is all la when itin nYc, and jsut abotu eveyr other city in the world. Its trendy. I thinks ome bitchy new yorks are just trying to dis LA.

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I agree with you, even though I am far from a high opinion of LA in general after visiting two times. Trash is everywhere, and this influence should not be contributed to LA, but to POP-CULTURE like I posted above. I am sure that LA has a crowd that is artistic, deep and is just as appalled at these tasteless trends. This article is trash, just like anything that comes out of NY Post (no offence, Sofgrey, I know you better than that already ). Anyway, JLo is from NYC, hahaha...

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Originally posted by faust+Mar 30th, 2004 - 1:42 pm--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(faust @ Mar 30th, 2004 - 1:42 pm)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-Spacemiu@Mar 30th, 2004 - 3:09 pm
This is oen fo the msot bull **** fashiona rticles I ahve read in a long time. i doutn udnerstand how they cans ay this is all la when itin nYc, and jsut abotu eveyr other city in the world. Its trendy. I thinks ome bitchy new yorks are just trying to dis LA.

trash is every where
I agree with you, even though I am far from a high opinion of LA in general after visiting two times. Trash is everywhere, and this influence should not be contributed to LA, but to POP-CULTURE like I posted above. I am sure that LA has a crowd that is artistic, deep and is just as appalled at these tasteless trends. This article is trash, just like anything that comes out of NY Post (no offence, Sofgrey, I know you better than that already ). Anyway, JLo is from NYC, hahaha... [/b][/quote]
yes I agree with what yous aid about ti beging pop culture.

trash crticizing trash

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Originally posted by Missy44x@Mar 30th, 2004 - 4:28 pm
Okay..relax lol

Each city has its goods and bads.. Ive lived in both... currently in NYC.

LA is more laid back...NYC isnt... when in Cali.. I always had open toe shoes...and I dressed real casual... here in nyc I can layer up b/c its cold and I can put on more pieces so I wouldnt say you can be more "trendy" in nyc.. but you have a lot more options. Nyc has a lot of flava..and a lot of diff people with diff taste... plus we are all congested in this city..unlike in LA where its all spread out.. well anyhow..let me not rant on lol Ill continue later
i agree.

it isn't la'a fault that that people tend to dress weather appropriate and that other cities co-op the look. so if people in nyc are wearing the trends... doesn't that say something about the so called perfect style of nyc?

anyways.

my problem with the la/ny war is this: why do people that write these articles FORGET the other LA trends that seem to be oh so popular in nyc as well?

where did the glamour look start in this country?

HOLLYWOOD.

that's right. adrian. edith head.... all the costumers for the old studio system in the 20's and 30's really established the looks that most designers are looking back to now.

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