I know that Bloomingdales also has its Friends and Family Sale or whatever that's called starting on the 17th of Nov... I know that you can purchase things now and get "presale" prices--20% off I think--if you are willing to go back and pick the item up on the 17th or later once the sale has started
I'll post again when I'm more clear on the details.. i don't have the information in front of me at the moment so I'm just going on whatever i remember
