Fashion and Feminism
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I don't think not caring about style and fashion (which are both considered feminine stuff right now) means being a feminist. Not caring about "feminine" stuff and finding them silly just means you're conforming to the male ideal and agreeing that the stereotypical male traits (not caring about fashion) are the right ones. you know, people who say feminists should have no make up, short hair, suits etc. they're just saying that for a woman to be strong she has to take on what is viewed as male adjectives. I don't think that's correct. Putting on a suit doesn't make you any more of a feminist than wearing a flowery dress. Being a feminist doesn't mean taking on male traits and dismissing everything viewed as feminine.
that's why I do think fashion and feminism can co-exist. because being a feminist doesn't mean dismissing everything that is viewed as feminine (like fashion).
It's really a dead match though, you can't win. if you care about your looks you're embracing that stereotype (women and looks) and making it even stronger, therefor accepting your given role in society and if you don't you're just celebrating the male traits and saying those are the right and the pure ones.
I just say enjoy whatever it is that you enjoy. what really needs to change is the view of fashion as something entirely feminine and of "feminine" stuff as silly.
Being a feminist means wanting equal rights between genders, not liking and disliking personal traits. I think almost every woman is a feminist, but she just doesn't admit it because she has that stereotype of them in her head.
I don't quite agree with you there on some parts.. because really how does a woman dressing up masculine conform to the male ideals and agreeing those are the right ones?.. That doesn't make sense at all.
The cliché male ideal (back in the 50's and all) is that a woman is interested in all the frilly typical feminine stuff. The dresses, skirts, household, children and everything. Saying that women who dress up masculine agree with those ideals makes it a complete contradiction, because they are doing the opposite and it's crazy to say that those who dress up masculine agree that other women should dress up feminine.
Women didn't start to dress up masculine because they agreed with the male culture. They did it to make a statement, that they could fit the male role (in the working world for example) just as well as the men could. That they didn't need to be dependent on the men to take care of them, that they could earn their own money and take care of the household themselves.
And another important factor is that back in the time that women slowly started to want more on terms of rights and career, they hardly ever wore anything else besides dresses or skirts that were either a bit on the wide side or tight. Easily said not the best choice for some jobs and all. Pants (and thus a masculine look) were just more practical and because of they got rid of the skirts and dresses it made a stronger impact on the male society who couldn't just ignore them as silly feminine women who got a little hysterical.
It really has nothing to do with the male ideals and celebrating those.
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