What's Wrong with the Fashion Industry?

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WHAT FOLLOWS IS THE first part of a long narrative interview conducted by Anja Aronowsky Cronberg for Vestoj "On Failure." Read the full chapter in the print edition here.

Tim Blanks, editor-at-large at Business of Fashion

Thom Browne, founder & head of design at Thom Browne

Ralph Toledano, president of the Fdration Franaise de la Couture, du Prt--Porter des Couturiers et des Crateurs de Mode, president of the fashion division at Puig, CEO at Nina Ricci

Jean-Jacques Picart, fashion and luxury goods consultant

Adrian Joffe, president of Comme des Garons International

Glenn OBrien, editor-at-large at Maxim

Hirofumi Kurino, co-founder & senior adviser for creative direction at United Arrows

Steven Kolb, president & CEO at Council of Fashion Designers of America

Nicole Phelps, director at Vogue Runway

Nathalie Ours, partner at PR Consulting Paris

Robin Schuli, brand manager & buying director at Maria Luisa

Andy Spade, co-founder of Partners & Spade, co-founder of Kate Spade, founder of Jack Spade, founder of Sleepy Jones

Tim Walker, freelance photographer

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Glenn OBrien: Do you know who the pharmakoi were? They were the scapegoats in Ancient Greece. They were sacrificed annually, driven out of Athens or thrown off a cliff, in a purification ritual. Thats what we do to people who fail today. Drug addicts, criminals, people on entitlements we ostracise them. In America we cant accept failure; we cant say that weve failed. Instead its the system thats failed, the president thats failed, the congress thats failed we never fail. Im not a failure, Im on the chamber of commerce for gods sake! In fashion its the same thing: people are in denial about failure. The game is about how to transform failure into a perceived success.

Robin Schuli: The press release that was put out after Alexander Wang was fired from Balenciaga was pure propaganda. It was your typical statement where everyone praises each other to the sky. There was no reason given for the separation. And then Alexander Wang started giving interviews about his new store opening in London and none of them mentioned what had happened at Balenciaga it was all airbrushed out of the success story that is Alexander Wang. Hilarious!

Jean-Jacques Picart: In fashion we treat failure as if it was a disease.

Steven Kolb: Theres a lot of smoke and mirrors in this industry. Its hard to tell how well a fashion business is doing: whether people are getting paid, what a companys cash flow is like.

Ralph Toledano: Failure in fashion is not selling.

Steven Kolb: Look at Band of Outsiders. It was a ten-year business, critically acclaimed, on the radar of major editors; theyd won prizes and had a point of view. They grew from zero to seventeen million in a decade, and they just folded. Why? They just didnt have the resources to take their business to the next level. You know, its easier to take your business from zero to ten million in a relatively short time span, but once you hit ten million it becomes much harder to grow. You need an influx of capital to really start investing in expansion, in distribution and stores, in control of inventory and wholesale all those things are expensive. Lots of fashion companies take outside investment at this point, and most of those investors arent fashion people. That leads to conflict because people have different expectations.

Jean-Jacques Picart: Success or failure in fashion isnt a measure of how talented you are as a designer. You can be the most talented designer in the world and still fail. There are so many incredibly talented designers who had to close their brands because they werent commercially successful. That they were the darlings of the press doesnt matter in the long run. If you dont know how to translate your creative vision into commercially viable products, this industry will spit you out.

Steven Kolb: Often designers get stuck on whether they get a bad review or no review for a collection, on what Suzy Menkes thinks. To me, thats not failure. Going out of business, thats failure. Not being able to deliver what you promise, not being able to pay your employees, not being able to feed the infrastructure youve created thats failure.

Nicole Phelps: Success in fashion today is about how many $5000 handbags you sell. Thats what determines if a designer stays at the head of a brand. How many bags a brand sells matters infinitely more than what I, Vanessa Friedman or Suzy Menkes might think.


Adrian Joffe: Id say theres a blueprint for success today a certain path you need to tread. And an important part of it is being charming to reporters. Do the blah blah blah. Some people who are successful today are brilliant at it. They can charm the pants off anyone.

Tim Blanks: Look at who makes it today. Look at Proenza Schouler for instance; I find them banal but theyre cute and charismatic. Then again, there are designers like Joseph Altuzarra, whos a genius in my book, so Im glad that hes so telegenic and gets a leg-up because of it. On the other hand, there are designers like Anna Sui who have forged ahead for years doing absolutely amazing work. Her shows now have a much better calibre of audience than they used to, but she never quite manages to hit the big time because Anna Wintour doesnt like her.

Nicole Phelps: If you look at someone like Frida Giannini who was fired from Gucci recently, its very hard to see what her next act might be. She was always a bit aloof with the press, and that didnt make her many friends in the business. That might affect her chances to get another high profile job. Lets just say that she doesnt have the worlds most powerful editor in her court.

Adrian Joffe: Rei has always said that she doesnt think she has succeeded at all. She believes that if she was successful, she wouldnt have to think about next weeks cash flow, she wouldnt have to worry. Sometimes I ask her, Cant you just be happy? Just for one instant? One time she didnt want to come to Paris at all, she wanted to cancel the whole show. She said, This is no good, no one is going to like it, its not good enough. In fact, she says that every time, and every time I remind her that shes always wrong. Its getting worse though, the suffering and torture she puts herself through. Im constantly reassuring her. I try to protect her and make things easier but it just gets too hard sometimes. But thats what drives her, this dissatisfaction. For her, one instant of self-satisfaction would mean the end.

Thom Browne: Without sounding self-congratulatory, Id define myself as someone successful.

Andy Spade: For me success means getting respect from my peers for the work I do. If Glenn OBrien writes about what I do, if he likes it and thinks its brilliant, that to me is a success. Because he gets it. Success for me isnt financial. I mean, I know how to do things that sell. Thats not a challenge. Success to me is doing something highly conceptual that sells. Then I feel like Im fooling the public. I like the idea of pulling the wool over the consumers eyes.

Glenn OBrien: A lot of times Ive been distracted from what I should have been doing by doing stuff just to make money. Im a family man: I have kids and I want to live well. By many peoples standards I guess Im a brilliant failure. But navigating this corporate colossus world is hard. You exist only through benign neglect. Like, please dont crush me, I just want to have a hot dog stand I promise!

Adrian Joffe: The system is what it is and fashion cant change that. Are you going to change the world with fashion? I dont think so. Fashion is just a reflection of society at large. We live in a culture where poor people can dress up in nice things for cheap, and where rich people want to know that theyre the only ones to have what they have. Thats not new. Some people have yachts in the Caribbean; others have a shack to sleep in if theyre lucky. My point is that we need everything ultimately its about balance. In fashion, we need Uniqlo, Louis Vuitton and Comme des Garons. Nature is about balance, and culture is too. And the fact that that balance is never achieved is what keeps things moving. If we were to somehow achieve absolute balance, the world would end. And still thats what we keep striving for. Thats the Tree of Life. [...]

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[...] Tim Blanks: Everything moves forward according to a dialectic of thesis, antithesis, synthesis. We go through smooth and rough patches – that’s just progress. We don’t know what our world will look like in twenty years’ time. Maybe we’ll all be living in another Fascist regime. Or in Utopia. Though I doubt it – human beings are incapable of Utopia.

Thom Browne: If you want to fight the system – good luck! A lot of people complain about the fashion industry today, but the way I see it, there’s no use complaining. I prefer to live my life according to the way things are.

Andy Spade: Look, if you choose to ignore the system, if you’re just like, I want to do my own thing, **** the world, I hate everybody – then you shouldn’t live in a capitalist society. You should leave. Where would you go? I don’t care – but get out of America! I hate it when people whine about the system. Figure it out! I didn’t have any backing when I started; no one paid for my samples. I didn’t have any patrons; I took two jobs to pay for it all. I think the system is working fine.

Glenn O’Brien: Fashion and the big time art world have been corrupted. The only space noncommercial culture has today, is a little temporary space that nobody notices. Like the space for cheap buildings in big cities, you can fill them until they get knocked down in order to put something expensive in its place. It’s nothing new; it’s been this way since Veblen wrote The Theory of the Leisure Class. But today we’ve reached this whole new level of stupidity orchestrated mainly by the mass media. Everywhere you look you see Caitlyn, Kim and Kanye. If people spend all their time thinking about ’The Real Housewives’ or ’Dancing with the Stars,’ they’re not thinking about poverty, police brutality or the exploitation of workers in Abu Dhabi.

Tim Blanks: The whole process of fashion has become fascinating to ordinary people. It’s a whole fallow area of escapism that hadn’t yet been exploited. Bread and circuses. The world has gone further and further down the toilet and fashion is glorious window-dressing. Nobody buys the clothes, but they sure like looking at them or reading about the people who make them or wear them.

Glenn O’Brien: Fashion is one of the main things that distract people from thinking about what’s important today: ecology and politics. It’s a manipulation machine. The celebrity system we have now doesn’t make people think bigger or question anything. It’s the opposite actually – it makes people think more and more shallowly.

Hirofumi Kurino: Money and politics have conquered fashion. In the press for instance, nobody dares saying anything critical anymore. To me, that shows a lack of love. If you really care about fashion, you should be able to say critical things when it’s warranted. Recently I had dinner with the editor-in-chief of GQ Japan, Masafumi Suzuki. It was just after LVMH’s Berluti presentation, and afterwards all the PR people were asking him, ‘Mr Suzuki, how did you like the show?’ I’m sure they expected the usual niceties, but instead he said, ‘It was the worst show I ever saw!’ He told them they were cheating the customer and ruining the heritage of the brand by making expensive, uninteresting clothes. The PRs were shocked, but what he said came from a place of love. He cares about the brand. And because he’s important, people listen and invite him back to see the next collection.

Nicole Phelps: The corporations are getting stronger all the time in fashion. I see new brands coming up all the time; they stay underground for a season and then they too move towards the corporations. Partly it’s because it’s too expensive and too difficult to develop a fashion line without support. But it’s also because the glamour that the corporations represent is irresistible.

Robin Schuli�: When Bernard Arnault bought Christian Lacroix in 1987, it marked the beginning of a new era. Arnault was interested in building a fashion house in the traditional way – starting with haute couture, moving on to ready-to-wear and then diversifying into accessories and perfume. But Lacroix was extremely reactionary in terms of design, for the time I mean. Ala�a, Mugler, Montana and Gaultier were already huge by that point. But they were all kind of scary – too advanced for most consumers. Lacroix with his charisma, and his organza and puff skirts, could appeal to grannies. Instead of growing the business organically, Arnault invested a lot of money in Lacroix. Still, it never worked. No one wanted what he was selling.

Ralph Toledano: People who look down their noses at LVMH or Kering are just jealous. They envy their power and money. Look, the CEOs of these companies might wear grey suits and white shirts, but that doesn’t mean that they don’t get it. They do. Fran�ois-Henri Pinault had the guts to hire Hedi Slimane even though everybody was sceptical and look at where Saint Laurent is now, so don’t tell me he doesn’t get it. As the president of the F�d�ration, I know that we need people like Pinault or Arnault to achieve our goals. They have the money.

Glenn O’Brien: The people who cooperate the most are the ones who are rewarded so there are always willing participants.

Robin Schuli�: Is there any other way to play the game? If you want to compete with the big guys, do you have to do it on their terms? That’s the million-dollar question. Young designers today are often competitive. They want to prove themselves and play the game. But the market today is too fragmented, and the big brands have already honed their skills for several decades. How can a young brand compete with that? And anyway, is there really just one way to be successful? Young designers need to ask themselves if they would be satisfied with another model. Why does every designer seem to follow the same blueprint for success? Why do you need to please everybody? I can understand that Dior needs to, but Christopher Kane? What will happen to his vision once he starts making long dresses for the Middle East, short cutesy ones for Asia and conservative tailoring for Middle America?

Nathalie Ours: A designer with an independent brand needs money to develop his company. The big problem for young designers is that buyers might love what they do and order it, but to produce it they have to be able to pay their manufacturer. Bear in mind that buyers pay designers six months after they have delivered the goods, so there’s a gap in the timeline. If the designer doesn’t have a good banker or partner, how do they manage that gap? That’s the big issue. Every designer I know has the same problem. Sometimes with very new designers, a buyer accepts paying, say, thirty percent in advance. But after three or four years, the buyer says, ’Okay, we’ve supported you – enough already.’ So now what do you do? Can you afford to lose this buyer? Most designers can’t. That’s one of the reasons why many young designers are so happy to have a conglomerate behind them. It’s a way to survive.

Tim Walker: As a creative you have to work out how to direct the money into projects where you can capitalise on it. You have to know how to take your vision to a level that wouldn’t have been possible without the financial support available. That’s my tuppence worth.

Ralph Toledano: Big corporate monsters need to have a creative vision and a genius designer at the top. The public wants someone they can identify by name, someone with a recognisable face. They want a hero. That’s why fashion companies stage fashion shows – the public needs to dream. But this aspect of fashion is only partially important to the success of a business today. What really matters is the rest of the machine: the marketing, the supply chain, the location of the shop, the communication campaign. That’s where you make your billions. In this sense fashion is a commodity business. As the CEO of a company you go to the show, but in the end the quality of the show is much less important than currency fluctuations or the economic situation in China.

Nicole Phelps: The fashion industry has a knack for turning designers into stars. Look at someone like Alessandro Michele at Gucci; your typical backroom guy thrust into the limelight because of his position. We editors are storytellers by necessity – we need to create stars. We have pages to fill.

Adrian Joffe: Do multinational corporations abuse power? I’m not sure they do. They just do what they do, that’s all. They have power because they’re rich and because that lets them spend a million dollars a month in advertising budget on some magazine. And if they then expect the magazine to write nicely about them because of it, is that abuse of power? I’m not sure it is. They just do what they feel they have to do.

Glenn O’Brien: We live in a time where corporations are seen as individuals. But if you work for a corporation, are you allowed to have an individual opinion? Not really. You have to follow the company voice and the company line. It’s destructive to human beings. Me, I believe in a freelance world. Working for a company only for money is what Marx called ’alienated labour.’ Today we live in a world of alienated labour where people sell out – they sell themselves, their minds, their integrity. They become liars for money.

Andy Spade: Glenn respects commercialism just like Andy Warhol did. If I just did my work in some small corner of the world, I don’t think Glenn would respect it as much. What he respects is the fact that I built a business while still being subversive, working on two levels. I’m not claiming to be a designer or an artist or anything – I just like having good ideas that sell.

Adrian Joffe: Long live the one percent; they are the ones that change things.

Tim Walker: There’s been an incredible explosion of money and power in the industry. Today there are countless forces polluting the innocence of play and experimentation, and the impact on true creativity has been damning. From my point of view that’s a failure and a betrayal of sorts.

Ralph Toledano: Life is about power. It’s always been like that – it’s nothing new.
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Thank you for posting! Really interesting read. Jesus, Tim Blanks' Galliano story was revolting. I guess he was always a ticking time bomb.
 
Thanks so much for starting this thread, YojiAddict! :flower:

The article isn't dated, but I'm assuming this chat happened while Raf was still at Dior, and Glenn O'Brien was still alive.

There are certainly a lot of topical issues discussed here. I very much agree with most of what Jean-Jaques, Robin, and Glenn said about young designers. Tim (Walker, obviously) also touched on something very important as well:

Tim Walker: As a creative you have to work out how to direct the money into projects where you can capitalise on it. You have to know how to take your vision to a level that wouldn’t have been possible without the financial support available. That’s my tuppence worth.

But Thom Browne's commentary just diminished the minimal respect I had for him as a designer. So insufferable and selfish, it's all 'me, me, me'. I could kick myself for never picking up on that.

Of course, as a magazine lover, the following quote stood out because it's something I've picked up in numerous indies as well (especially ID!). In a warped sense, the fluffy titles such as Vogue and Bazaar actually get away with more liberty in terms of styling. The worst you can demand from them is head-to-toe looks....

Camille Bidault-Waddington: I’ve worked a lot with Another Magazine over the years. Every time they give me a very specific list of credits – all the brands that advertise with them and that need to be featured in the shoot. That’s so common now that nobody reacts anymore. But something has changed lately, and it’s taken me a while to get used to it. In a roundabout way, Another has started telling stylists how many centimetres we should feature of each advertiser in our shoots. If we have an Armani credit for instance, it’s no longer okay to just feature a beautiful silhouette on the page or a portrait where you only see the neck of the model. No, you have to make sure that enough of the garment is seen so that the magazine can satisfy the advertiser. As far as I’m concerned, that’s not fashion – it’s an invasion of the page. Advertisers just want coverage, and more coverage equals more power.
 
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Of course, as a magazine lover, the following quote stood out because it's something I've picked up in numerous indies as well (especially ID!). In a warped sense, the fluffy titles such as Vogue and Bazaar actually get away with more liberty in terms of styling. The worst you can demand from them is head-to-toe looks....

That quote just confirms my suspicion that indie magazine are becoming increasingly reliant on advertisers. Just this spring AnOther released an issue featuring both a Prada and a Comme des Garcons advertorial, the latter is obviousy not an advertiser in the traditional sense of the word but the amound of editorial space indie magazines (Especially but not exclusively: Dazed, AnOther and i-D ) devote to the brand is unparalleled...
 
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If someone was brave enough to produce a magazine that didn't let the advertisers dictate the style and demand head2toe looks, I think it would be very popular. Most magazines are not worth buying, nothing remotely interesting. I hate head to toe looks, I want to see mix and match like REALITY. Yet I forgot nothing about the fashion industry anymore is based in reality. It's quite sad.
 
Thanks for the links, YohjiAddict. Very good stuff. I’ll be reading the rest tonight.

You’re in for a terrible rude awakening Benn, if you think Thom is the only one that’s all about “me, me, me”…. Everyone in the industry is in it for themselves. For most of us who do this for a living— and not a big name, or associated with one, it’s even more ruthless. Jackels fighting for scraps comes to mind. Thom admitting that it’s every men and women for themselves is just the blunt truth-- maybe arrogance, more than selfish or insufferable.

(What I find more shocking than anything else so far is that Tim Blanks thinks Altuzarra is “genius”…)
 
(What I find more shocking than anything else so far is that Tim Blanks thinks Altuzarra is “genius”…)
HA! I was thinking the exact same thing! Quite a kick out of that one. I did appreciate how, in the same breath, he described the Proenza boys as "banal." Glad to hear someone say it!

Re: Tim Blanks, though...I found it quite tasteless of him, to be honest, to account so specifically Galliano's rough behavior (not that I'm excusing Galliano's accounted behavior). Clearly, though, he also admits that Galliano could neither hold his liquor or his drugs. That's sad. And I find that it reflects poorly on Tim. If this is the kind of behavior you are witnessing, and you are also conscious that said poor behavior is coming from a place of substance abusive and instability...did he pull John aside? Prevent him from embarrassing himself? Reach out to a friend or colleague of John's? No - everyone seemed perfectly content to watch Galliano (and McQueen) self destruct.

Granted, I believe in personal responsibility, and I don't see McQueen or Galliano as fully innocent victims - they played their parts in their own demise. And I think it's also a harrowing fact of life that few wish to admit - with such genius in one individual comes much internal turmoil. Life is all push and pull, give and take, high and low, and when these two men were given the most incredible gifts that were their creative vision and creative energy, it is no surprise it came with a bitter reality that living out that great gift is often a responsibility too much to bear.

So, again, as I said, quite tasteless to read Tim so casually describe an incredibly talented and gifted person in clearly such a sad state.
 
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^ I had a bit different reaction, I don't think it's tasteless to recount, but I agree with you that people shouldn't simply watch the train wreck. Not that attempting to help will necessarily do any good, but it should be done anyway ...

This is an amazing series, thanks for posting, YohjiAddict. I'm struck while reading it how intelligent and interesting Glenn O'Brien was, and what a d!ck Andy Spade is.

I found this quite salient, and information many tFSers seem unaware of ...

Jean-Jacques Picart: A good collection is one that fulfils three key points. You have to present things that are already known, as well as others that are the same but with a slight twist. And then you have to present things that are completely new. Buyers never buy the thing that’s completely new – those serve as research for the following season. A designer also has to show that he understands the codes of the house: that we’re at Isabel Marant and not Haider Ackermann. The bulk of the show has to be recognisable looks but with new proportions, colours or a slightly different silhouette – that’s what will appeal to your buyers. And the completely new thing is what appeals to the press – it’s what we think of as risk-taking. And it’s what the buyers will order next season, when it already feels familiar. Few young designers understand this equation; they think that repeating themselves makes for bad design. They don’t understand that the focal point of their house is the product, and that the customer has to have a sense of familiarity.
 
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That quote just confirms my suspicion that indie magazine are becoming increasingly reliant on advertisers. Just this spring AnOther released an issue featuring both a Prada and a Comme des Garcons advertorial, the latter is obviousy not an advertiser in the traditional sense of the word but the amound of editorial space indie magazines (Especially but not exclusively: Dazed, AnOther and i-D ) devote to the brand is unparalleled...

So true! Also there's the Dior editorial (or rather, advertorial) in the current issue of POP.
I expect these magazines will also use the same excuse young designers and indie brands are using - 'we simply cannot survive on our own'. Imo, that's a half-truth. It's a well-documented fact that audiences are actually steering more towards indies and supplements. And imo, that may be purely because they don't force aspiration the way mainstream titles does. Also, the gritty manner in which content is created (less commercial), the message, the (apparent) sense of creative liberty. Whether by instinct or blatant awareness, indies and supplements are actually increasing their audience quarter after quarter. Brands are picking up on that. So instead of targeting Vogue or Elle, whose audience they already have in their pocket, why not focus on the burgeoning ID clan.

Question is, what is the purpose of an indie when they employ exactly the same tactics as a mainstream title, only more covertly? I think the entire way they're going about their business right now, that is, aggressively pushing the goods of their advertisers (like they've done in that Pop/Dior edit), is actually at odds with their brand values. People are getting increasingly savvy, and to think that they can continue to pull the wool over their readers' eyes is ridiculous. This where I hate the fact that fashion just about blew up over the past decade. Because before that it meant that indies such as Another or ID could go without any stringent advertising demands, whereas now it seems they cannot.

I thinks this may also be part of the reason why there's such a malaise sweeping in fashion imagery at the moment. Editors have been converted into marketing managers. Dior sends their collection, and you must build your story around that as opposed to vice versa. If you're lucky enough to mix and match, you better make sure the balance between brands are solid, or else face the music. It's all too formulaic!

You’re in for a terrible rude awakening Benn, if you think Thom is the only one that’s all about “me, me, me”…. Everyone in the industry is in it for themselves. For most of us who do this for a living— and not a big name, or associated with one, it’s even more ruthless. Jackels fighting for scraps comes to mind. Thom admitting that it’s every men and women for themselves is just the blunt truth-- maybe arrogance, more than selfish or insufferable.

I can be very credulous when it comes to certain designers, especially the ones whose work I admire. I associate the craft with the personality, you see. But in this series Thom really turned me off. This overt display of ego is very tacky. This was supposed to be a broad discussion about the industry, yet he kept bringing it to him.
 
^^^ As mentioned Benn, you are in for it if you associate the craft with the personality LOL I will never associate the genius, ingenuity, vision, talent etc of a designer, photographer and any creatives I admire in the industry with the person— that’s just asking to be punched in the throat. A friend of mind, who’s on amicable terms with some of fashiondom’s royalties, met Alexander McQueen in 2010, and she’s someone that usually finds the nicest side of any human, also would be in agreement with Tim’s impression of the Alexander.

I’m not sure why some have decided to be so blunt about their distaste for certain individuals in this interview, it does come off as mean (even to someone as icy-hearted as myself LOL). But I can totally understand their lack of warmth towards Hussein; they seems to confirm my suspicion of why I find him unbearable the few glimpses I’ve seen of him on the screen LOL Tim’s revelation about John and Alexander seems more hardened diva-ness than lack of humanity/sympathy for what he observed as damaged people on a destructive rampage. Never got the impression Tim was closed with either one, so why would he be responsible to lend a shoulder in either case…? I just get that his encounter with them were purely through social and professional instances. And now that he’s heading BoF, with John being extremely humbled these days, maybe it’s just a case of the mean girls attitude: Distasteful and unnecessary— but not unwarranted. Funny how Tim Walker only has one comment…? And LULZ at this Andy Spade person… I guess he’s related to Kate? Who cares. ... And Thom is just fine…

BTW, never considered Another, Dazed, i-D etc as indie. They are definitely branded as an alternative to the more mainstream publications like Vogue, Elle Harper’s etc. But their advertisers and the teams involved in these publications are on the same level as any Vogues. (I suppose to readers of department-store flyers like InStyle, Glamour etc would definitely be considered these titles "indie"-- and likely too intimidating...)

Even MAS’s Mastermind isn’t indie. Definitely alternative, just like Carinne’s Fashion Book, Purple etc.
 
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^ Yes, he's her husband. Also brother to comedian David Spade. Perhaps he missed his own SNL calling.

Maybe I'm in the minority, but I didn't really perceive what Tim Blanks said as mean. He talked about not just the bad behavior, but also (some of) the causation in each case. He didn't just say, hey, what jerks!

In my view, we're all in this human thing together, and if someone 'close' isn't there, then it's up to whoever is to act like a human being. I can see how the kind of behavior he describes would be a huge turnoff, though. If I were there, I don't know who I would've had the instinct to help ... but maybe one of the people whose clothes just got ruined as a result of someone else's stunningly bad behavior.
 
^^^ LOL David Spade is related to all these Spades …?!??!?!? Such an annoying bunch!

You seem like such a kind soul, but if someone that I only came across on social occasions was always arrogant, inconsiderate and seemingly self-destructive— and peeing on people to boot, I wouldn’t be so willing to offer a shoulder so generously. That’s assuming they would even acknowledge your presence; some internationally well-known critic put her hand out to my friend in that "talk to the hand" gesture when my friend approached her at an event once to just say hello. So if someone like that was so nasty, I can only imagine what John and Alexander may be capable of when they were still at their reign— and their most coked-up, drunken-stuper, self-destructive period.

(I remember Tim did this piece on John’s Dior towards the end of his tenure for Fashion File that was very critical of his increasingly tacky designs. It was at a time when everyone adored John blindly-- and likely enabling his awful behavior. And Tim seemed like the only voice to point out John's clearly diminishing vision at the time.)
 
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Thanks YohjiAddict for the enjoyable read once again.

Interesting info there there offers different angles to how they are normally perceived lol
 
BTW, never considered Another, Dazed, i-D etc as indie. They are definitely branded as an alternative to the more mainstream publications like Vogue, Elle Harper’s etc. But their advertisers and the teams involved in these publications are on the same level as any Vogues. (I suppose to readers of department-store flyers like InStyle, Glamour etc would definitely be considered these titles "indie"-- and likely too intimidating...)

Even MAS’s Mastermind isn’t indie. Definitely alternative, just like Carinne’s Fashion Book, Purple etc.

Semantics, Phuel! :lol::lol::lol: But lets for fear of derailing into an unnecessary direction, just label them as 'alternative'. :cool::heart::Pink::flower:
 
<3 so happy to know someone else saw this series of interviews. Thanks to Vestoji and YohjiAddict! These articles completely changed how I view and understand fashion.
 
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By Bridget Foley and Jessica Iredale
with contributions from Rosemary Feitelberg, Lisa Lockwood, Aria Hughes, Katya Foreman, Alessandra Turra, Jennifer Weil, Marcy Medina, Tiffany Ap, Ritu Upadhyay, Kelly Wetherille, Fiona Ma on September 4, 2018


“I don’t know anything about American fashion! I don’t even think about American fashion. Everything for me is global. I sit around thinking how are we going to improve our sales in Asia and what are we going to do about Europe and why is the market dipping in this city or that city. I’ve never thought of myself as just an American designer.” Tom Ford

“American fashion has always been defined by the lifestyle brands like Calvin Klein, Ralph Lauren, Michael Kors and Tommy Hilfiger. These brands have the ability to sell anything, from underwear to evening gowns, in stores as diverse as T.J. Maxx to Bergdorf’s. American fashion has also dominated denim and streetwear, bridging pop culture with fashion. At Holt Renfrew, we have embraced American-born brands that have a global approach to fashion, like Rick Owens, Thom Browne and The Row, along with Raf Simons’ inspired reimagining of American style at Calvin Klein. We feel strongly about these brands as their European sensibility and directional aesthetic continue to resonate with both our male and female customers.” — Mario Grauso, president, Holt Renfrew

“When you think about the French or Italians or the British, there’s confidence. Like, ‘This is what Milan or London or Paris looks like and we’re confident in this.’ And for some reason New York is always like, ‘Uh I don’t know. Maybe we’re too commercial and it’s boring.’ Yes, that is true for a lot of work that is presented in New York, but I feel like to take that attitude….why be so down? There are really interesting things happening in this city, among the new people and the older brands. Look at what Marc Jacobshas been putting out the past two collections. It’s pretty awesome and wild.” — Mike Eckhaus, Eckhaus Latta

“[American fashion] lives without fear of offending, though sometimes lacks a strong message or identity.” — Ashley Petrie, merchandise director, Fred Segal

“I feel like America has been great at producing things like Warby Parker and Bonobos, and things like that that…disrupt the industry economically. But creatively, they’re stifling the industry, and they’re not offering anything new or exciting. I think there’s a huge push on VC and investors to repeat the success of Everlane and other size-fashion type of formulas where there’s no push on creativity. That’s a huge thing too. The Europeans really focus on creativity and storytelling and navigating the history via fashion and including that in their work. Whereas we’re figuring out how to make things easier and easier, duller and duller and cost-effective, because it’s like the Silicon Valley of creativity.” — Kerby Jean Raymond, Pyer Moss

“Creativity goes in phases, from when it’s at its height to periods where it’s less creative. At the moment we feel this is a time where U.S. designers and fashion houses are trying to figure out the next step to show their collections, to redefine the format to adapt to the new landscape.” — Sylvie Picquet, PR Consulting

New York Fashion Week has become very democratic, which is great for newness, but bad for quality control. It’s crowded [so it] doesn’t give any designer the platform to stand out.” — Lauren Santo Domingo, cofounder and chief brand officer, Moda Operandi

“When we talk about the state of American fashion today it’s really ‘world’ fashion we’re talking about. The influences and influencers driven and shared through the Internet have democratized and globalized fashion. And because of the speed and bombardment of all of these influences impacting all kinds of consumers, young designers today are more challenged than ever to create a strong identity for themselves and their brands and to sustain them over time.” Ralph Lauren

“To me, all this ‘competition’ against ‘the Europeans’ is all invented. I can see that it is frustrating to feel that the Paris season is seen as the international summit. Yet U.S. fashion in general should feel a certain triumph about taking sportswear (sneakers included) into such a forceful situation that an American influencer has become part of power brand Louis Vuitton.

“This may sound pretentious, coming from someone who has never lived in the U.S., but surely the discomfort in NY fashion compared to the energetic attitude on the West Coast must reflect the way your world is turning. My son lives and works in San Francisco for Google and he told me a decade ago that his suit was gathering mothballs and that his women colleagues also wore entirely casual clothes. I feel that the current look at Calvin Klein from Raf Simons could have been orchestrated from the beginning of the new Millennium.

“But in this digital age of start-ups and online purchases, is there any sense in talking about ‘American fashion’ or ‘London’ fashion? Surely it should be about individual creatives.” — Suzy Menkes, international Vogue editor

“I think American fashion could use a bit more formality and focus in the design studio. Right now, it feels that so many designers have given themselves over to streetwear, ath-leisure or whatever you want to call it, that dreaming up wonderfully transporting ideas has become a rarity. I don’t necessarily think I’m seeing designers’ visions but rather their interpretation of what consumers are already wearing — and not necessarily looking all that great in. American designers don’t seem to be as keen on challenging and pushing consumers to see beyond what’s right in front of them.” — Robin Givhan, fashion critic, The Washington Post

“The state of American fashion as opposed to the state of European fashion? I just wonder if fashion is going through a really bad cycle. This has come up so many times, so that’s why I asked whether it’s American fashion or fashion [in general]. I show in New York, and I know I’m considered an American fashion designer. In my head, I don’t know if I’m any different than anybody anywhere else. So the state of fashion? Do people buy anything anymore? Do people go to stores anymore? Do shows mean anything more than just a showing of clothes? I just don’t know.” Marc Jacobs

“On the whole, I’d say American fashion is facing an identity crisis. A lot of those cute young designers we all fluffed up for the past decade or so are starting to look a little tired or disillusioned, and the ones who have held on from previous generations hardly seem like they’re having all that much fun, either. The old notion of American style being about optimistic, practical sportswear seems sadly antiquated, and replaced by what? Marketing drops and disruption?” — Eric Wilson, fashion news director, InStyle Magazine

“Being a part of the industry here has taught us how to clarify and convey the messages we want to send as a brand, and as a result, we have a very clear vision. The feeling of independence and freedom in America also has enabled us to continue expanding the ways we work as creatives whether it be in filmmaking, writing or other areas of design and business. It has provided us a platform to be bold and to be fearless.

“However, with Rodarte we have also been heavily criticized as falling too far outside of the typical ready-to-wear context and not being commercial enough, which we feel is unfair. Fashion is a delicate balance of art and commerce, and we believe that brands should be celebrated for expressing alternative points of views and for diversifying what American fashion means.

“American fashion is very focused on commerce and we think that narrow focus can be oppressive. Brands that have thrived in Europe like Dries van Noten, or even Yohji [Yamamoto] in Japan, have always been given ample space to be creative. U.S. brands are sometimes strangled by the pressure to perform commercially, and that mold isn’t necessarily right for everyone. It’s not one size fits all. — Kate and Laura Mulleavy, Rodarte

“The fact that what you hear the most is that people feel that they’re in this rat race, this gerbil wheel that we’ve all built for ourselves. You could characterize American fashion as heavily dominated by brands that are completely faceless and driven by venture capitalists or private equity or whatever, or it’s driven by struggling brands that are trying to figure out: ‘I’m 22, I just graduated and I’ve been sold this idea that you, too, can start a line tomorrow.’ I’m not in either of those camps. I’m not burdened by the investors checking in on me, and I hate that these 21-years-olds are sold this bill of goods that they should open a collection tomorrow. I’m a big believer in going out and getting lots of life experience and applying that to opening a business.” — Amy Smilovic, Tibi

“American fashion brands are forward-thinking and open to change. We feel this is crucial to success in today’s world. There is an inherent sense of inclusivity in American fashion, and to us, that is one of the most important things for a brand.” — Kris and Laura Brock, Brock Collection

“We’re not just competing with our peers, we’re competing with everybody. Even a brand like Everlane is becoming competition. MM.LaFleur, for example, is seeing a lot of momentum. The consumer is choosing not just by price point or by designer brands anymore, she’s choosing from everything. The other aspect of it is that American designers are simply not trending in Europe right now. We simply cannot compete with the massive resources that the European houses have. We can’t afford the marketing dollars or the fancy trips, the extravagant sets or the celebrities. Some of the celebrities are on exclusive with the big brands, you know? So that’s been challenging. The other fact is that most of us buy our fabric from Italy and France, so by the time we sell our goods there, we’ve incurred double duty. We are more expensive than the luxury brands in their homelands. And from a customer point of view, they simply do not see the value. Not to ignore the fact that our taxation for imports is changing every week right now and it’s kind of making us very nervous.” — Jason Wu

“The whole industry is currently going through a change and is searching for what is relevant. Digital has transformed everything, from publishing to retail to communication, creating an immediate and direct link that has never been more far-reaching. The question becomes, how to best use this direct access? What is the most we can make of it?….What is most constructive is to accept that this is an introspective time and to be tolerant and patient with the needed experimentation.” — Julie Mannion, co-chairman, KCD

“I think that Americans are underrating their own fashion — in all senses. The history of American fashion and the tremendous world power of American style is no longer recognized by Americans themselves. They tried to become global players. They tried to combat European houses but at the same time we are losing what is quintessentially American….Nobody is proud enough of what you can call the Dapper Dan movement. The fact that Vogue-ing, hip-hop and rap now are at the steering wheels of luxury brands, activewear brands and so on — that’s amazing. What [Dapper Dan[] predicted with his clothes is now happening. It is a super sort of power takeover, which is very significant. Also, because it’s black. That is right now so important…when I walk in the streets of any city in the world, and I really analyze how people are dressed, the masses, you could say it’s so American — T–shirts, hoodies, shorts, jeans, checkered, it’s all there. Sometimes very well done, sometimes very shabby. So the inference is there but it doesn’t translate to a higher goal, a better memory, or rewriting of history.”Li Edelkoort

“As an industry we are great at supporting, cultivating and launching new and young designers. Even though we excel at mentoring young talent, we also tend to push them into doing things that may not be the right fit for them at the moment. Such as producing very expensive fashion shows or trying to show their collections around the world right at the start. We need to create a platform that is more sustainable for up-and-coming talent.” —Daniella Vitale, chief executive officer, Barneys New York

“What is very fun about New York is there are so many different kinds of people coming from all over the world. For example, a Korean seamstress may have a very delicate hand because there is something so specific about Korean fashion with its history. Sometimes they take a garment and make it in a completely different way than a European would. Or look at how Japanese people are working. It’s more flat — look at the work of Comme des Garçons. It’s so fascinating because they approach clothes in a completely different manner. That makes New York very rich. At Herrera, there were 80 people and 29 different nationalities.” — Hervé Pierre

“The U.S. is not only a center for design, but a hub for vibrant culture and constant evolution. Rather than avoiding change, American designers are at the forefront of embracing and pioneering new technology. You see this through Instagram and other digital platforms that allow us to directly and openly talk to our customers. It’s important to have a global vision as technology has allowed our audience to be hyper-connected across borders.”Cynthia Rowley

“American fashion still has a sensibility that resonates on the sales floor and translates to higher margins and profitability, [but] falls short when it tries to emulate European fashion….[Our[ strength will always be denim. It’s our legacy. Denim and contemporary really best reflect the laid-back approach of the US, especially California. Ath-leisure is a perfect example of that. Veronica Beard is really nailing it in terms of what a woman wants—great fit, great quality, not too fussy. Mother Denim just keeps getting better. In the designer world, Monse, Oscar de la Renta, Altuzarra and Amiri speak directly to our customers’ needs, day to night.” — Elyse Walker

“American fashion is best in its display of contemporary brands with a very ‘on-trend’ feel. Right now there is also a good effort [made towards] diversity, which is a concept that is less developed in more traditional fashion weeks like Milan or Paris.” — Federica Montelli, head of fashion, Rinascente

“American fashion is in a major transformation period and a time of self-questioning, as individual brands but as well as a collective group. In the entire time that I have built my company, it’s taken me this long to have the sense of a designer community, which is something that I value a lot and was surprising. It comes at a time when people are self-reflective personally and professionally. But I’ve had more dialogue with my contemporaries than I’ve ever had in 17 years.” Zac Posen

“It seems as if there’s a new designer brand every day. Social media is making it possible to become an overnight sensation. However, there seems to be way more designers than there are shops to carry them [and] it’s a very difficult economy, so there will be a lot of attrition.” — Nanette Lepore

“We’re a little bit in shambles right now. I think people are moving fashion at a very fast pace…Everybody’s got their own point of view. Where is the designer has a specific look, a consistent point of view of who that person is?…Is Calvin Calvin anymore? It’s difficult for me to say. Is Ralph Ralph? Absolutely. Is Marc Marc? Yes. Marc is an artist. Marc has always been an artist. What is Marc? He’s about coming up with something that’s a wow. You know? He is a fashion artist. But what’s happening right now, you take T-shirts, put a label on it and sell it for god only knows what price. When my grandson is the one who’s buying fashion? He’s 13 years old and he tells me every single label. If that’s my market, I’m in trouble.” — Donna Karan

“There are always benefits of being a US-based creative because you’ll be surrounded by creatives and businesses from all over the world. America is definitely going through a lot of social and political changes right now, but change has always been a constant for Americans.” — Arby Li, editor in chief, Hypebeast

“The strengths of American fashion coincide with Bloomingdale’s signature business, which is contemporary fashion. Along with denim and casual at our contemporary core, the American industry has also created some great new fashion collections within the category.” — Frank Doroff, vice chairman, Bloomingdale’s

“Parlour X only buys Proenza Schouler and Calvin Klein from the U.S. I think they are the two best collections that fit into our offering. Calvin Klein is certainly at the forefront of desirability right now with Raf Simons at the creative helm. It’s positioned amongst the coolest, latest ‘it’ brands seen and worn by global street style stars who are setting the benchmarks for what is cool and coveted. We would gladly buy more brands from the U.S. if they fit in with our portfolio, but I don’t think there are any others of great interest right now.” — Eva Galambos, director and buyer, Parlour X, Australia

“The world has become a very small place. Brands from all over the world — Australia, Sweden, the U.K. — have become staples in everyone’s closets, and more than likely, the customer has no idea where the brand is designed or manufactured. Because of this, traditional American brands, with the exception of Levi’s and Ralph Lauren, need to think and create on a global plain and tell their story in a way that crosses all borders.” — Jane Siskin, Cinq à Sept

“The creativity is still superstrong in America in general. In the past three years, we’ve dedicated two of our exhibitions to the States: one on Brookyln and the [current one], focused on Los Angeles. Each time it’s a complete overview of the city, including, of course, fashion.” — Jennifer Cuvillier, style director, Le Bon Marché

“American fashion is a strong part of the overall fashion world and considered ‘cool.’ It represents the American way of life [to] the European customer. Big names such as Polo Ralph Lauren, Calvin Klein, Seven (just to name a few), have created a striking visibility for American fashion all over the world. The strengths are the coolness, but [also] the authenticity and product knowledge, especially when it comes to denim.” — Torsten Stiewe, head of fashion buying, The KaDaWe Group, Berlin

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“Very few people are actually doing a serious collection. I don’t mean to put anybody down, I just mean [doing something] very devoted to the standards and mantras that were collection — incredible workmanship, a full range of different categories, outerwear, eveningwear, daywear, knitwear. In Europe, a lot people continue to do [that], whether it’s Gucci or Givenchy or Balenciaga. There are far [fewer] people doing that now in America.

“Now, [there’s] street — youth, ath-leisure, athletic industrial kind of design, T-shirts and sweatshirts, that kind of look. At the same time, there’s the category of pure contemporary, which pretty much ticks all the boxes of merchandising. So you have the summer floral dresses that are cold-shoulder, the tunics, the mini dresses and bright colors for clubbing, jeans galore, crop pants and wide pants, the big ruffled sleeves. That’s not what Collection has been about, that I remember anyway.

Right now, you have the industrial, which I happen to like a lot, the silo of industrial unisex, police-type gear — neon, fluorescent, very Balenciaga-influenced but also riot gear, police, fireman. And also, techno sports — the Adidas, Knicks kind of thing.

And then you have ‘collection,’ which in most cases now looks relegated to eveningwear. In the old days, it meant [a full wardrobe. Still, there are certain people who try to maintain that [with] the expense and the excruciating journey that it is — the fabric development, the fittings. Collection has almost become the new couture, and I just don’t think that’s America. It’s probably true in Europe as well, but it’s very obvious here.” — Vera Wang

“This is an exceptionally important time to be a U.S.-based designer, with the growth of streetwear celebrating how the young/digital generation are finding ways to build new ideas of luxury. The U.S. is very much in a state of self-actualization and revolution. There is a real generational change happening [as people are] looking to push through the status quo and explore new territories. U.S. designers/brands are working to encourage and reflect these beliefs on a global scale.” — Mike Amiri

“There continues to be an excitement around American fashion. I am constantly looking for new and emerging brands. Last season we picked up Eckhaus Latta by design duo Mike Eckhaus and Zoe Latta, who explore a casual edit that veers toward the abstract while remaining wearable. We instantly collaborated with them as part of The Innovators and produced an exclusive capsule collection of items crafted entirely from deadstock material. It’s wonderful to find such emerging talent.” — Natalie Kingham, fashion and buying director at Matchesfashion.com

“American fashion is in a state of change at the moment. It’s no secret that after the last few years the calendars and schedules have been changing and rotating. This is essentially a reflection of the state of the world today. Fashion is smaller. Technology has made fashion more accessible through social media to anyone anywhere in the world.” — Roopal Patel, fashion director, Saks Fifth Avenue

“America is a country of capitalism, consumerism and innovation. This is an exciting moment for brands. We have this amazing ability to reach customers and to be our own media vehicles via social media and social commerce and e-commerce. We have a strong voice and ability to express creativity in dynamic ways. Weakness comes when you resist change, operationally and creatively. Businesses need to rethink seasons, rethink deliveries, and we need to focus more on [fewer] sku’s and better product. As an industry, we need to transform Fashion Week to be geared directly to the consumer so that is generates business versus buzz.” — Stacey Bendet, Alice & Olivia

“The American spirit is entrepreneurial and eternally optimistic — that’s at the core of what we do as American innovators — but American fashion is in transition. Our DNA is rooted in the American sportswear tradition and bolstered by lifestyle — a concept created by American designers. For us, making beautiful things at accessible price points is what we do best. We should be proud of the creative, accessible fashion we create. Fashion has to be about honesty and authenticity.” Tory Burch

“As an American retailer known around the world, Saks supports and believes in American fashion and the exciting talent produced from NYFW. The American fashion community nurtures a wide range of talent — we look forward to seeing what this September brings.” — Tracy Margolies, chief merchant, Saks Fifth Avenue

“We are enthusiastic about American fashion! American brands are smart about getting out there and sincerely wanting to get to know their customers. They understand American consumerism and know how to talk about their collections in a relatable way. They know that making a connection with customers and cultivating them is important. We are particularly supportive of American designers who are listening to customers and addressing the desire for having a broad range of sizes. Brandon Maxwell, Oscar de la Renta and Carolina Herrera have made a point to focus on this, and we are making progress with many other designers.” — Tricia Smith, executive vice president and general merchandise manager, women’s apparel, Nordstrom

“There is a social consciousness in American fashion today that is powerful. Designers and brands aren’t afraid to talk about diversity, politics, the environment. And to engage with the customer more than ever through direct and meaningful dialogue, with more transparency and more commitment from their favorite brands to define their core value system, and American fashion has responded.” — Wen Zhou, ceo, 3.1 Phillip Lim

“American sportswear, streetwear is very strong. I think we are playing a big role in sustainability and zero-waste in fashion, building an awareness of conservation. Where sustainability is concerned, we should take the lead. Not that we’re going to, but we should.” — Yeohlee Teng

“I have not seen any notable change in American fashion for the past few years. In a sense, this is what characterizes American fashion; it doesn’t change. Women are always practical…[dressing] in what they like and feel comfortable in. From time to time, I do meet Europeanized fashionistas in the US, but only rarely. It’s hard to find women who mix street trends with mode. On the other hand, American women are good at incorporating sports and outdoor wear into daily fashion. High-tech gear is effortlessly added oo daily styles, making this a big difference from Japanese women’s fashion.” — Yumi Sudo, director, Beams Boy, Tokyo

“Many of us American fashion designers embrace models and muses of all colors, shapes and sizes, genders and ages. For me, New York was always a beacon of my American dream, and now more than ever is a time to advocate for giving minorities a seat at the table. I hope to see this idea echo through our global fashion industry, because working together in solidarity is the best way we can bring change.” — Prabal Gurung

“We see that our customer is more educated on issues that impact the industry: There is strength now in questioning the story behind the clothes. The challenge or weakness is with so much information out there, how do we hold her attention? We work to offer compelling stories around the people and practices behind our brand and products.” — Eileen Fisher

“[American fashion] can sprout a small fashion creation into a big, global-scale business.…American brands are easy to understand.” — Kentaro Shishido, general manager, women’s merchandising, Isetan Shinjuku

“I think we are all searching for ways to support young American talent and looking for a way to create a system that helps inspire creativity amidst increasing pressure to produce. And in a global economy where social media has blurred all boundaries I think we are wondering what makes something distinctly American, or if in fact, that question is even relevant anymore.” — Stellene Volandes, editor in chief, Town & Country

“Our garments tend to be more commercially viable and we care greatly about what the consumer wants to wear. American designers created and endorsed the streetwear phenomenon and put the collaborations of art, music, fashion and subcultures into all industry conversations.” — Jonathan Simkhai

“I feel our industry is in an extreme state of flux that offers myriad opportunities to change the status quo and reinvent. I find it amazing that an industry as creative as ours has allowed itself to become so stagnant and so entrenched in old, outdated ways of doing business.” — Tracy Reese

“I believe fashion worldwide is in a state of evolution dealing with the realities of a more digitally focused business and a changing consumer. I see American fashion in general as having an edge in many ways because of the wider distribution opportunities in the U.S. market.” — Josie Natori

“American fashion tends to reflect a distinctly American ease, simplicity and even accessibility. But moreover it taps into and expresses cultural values [of] American life. It is not about a set of rules or standards, but rather a reflection about what we value, how we see the world and how we live. It is dynamic and relevant, because it draws so heavily on a diverse set of cultural influences — class, race, gender identity, history, music, art, film, sport and technology. It doesn’t follow rules. Much like the American version of the English language, it is alive, changing, evolving with the speed of culture and currency. It is usage-based, not rules-based. I love that.” — Paul Gaudio, global senior vice president of creative direction and future, Adidas

“American fashion is having a moment. Having Raf Simons at the helm of Calvin Klein is one of the most exciting things about New York fashion right now. Then you have your core big businesses like Michael Kors, which have always been really prominent in the market. What we love is seeing the success of young designers like Jason Wu, Proenza Schouler and Gabriela Hearst. We are also excited about the new contemporary lines coming out of New York, such as Staud, Les Rêveries and Sies Marjan. This cool, new, young talent is really coming to the forefront and at Net-a-Porter we are able to really give them a platform to shine. Les Rêveries in particular has just launched as a brand and we are stocking their first ever collection exclusively.” — Elizabeth von der Goltz, global buying director, Net-a-Porter

“There is a certain ease with American fashion; it’s not always statement making but rather more runway to street. We’re seeing brands challenge the stereotypes behind American sportswear, but the styles are still wearable and straight forward, and they know exactly what the consumer wants. In Paris and London, as a contrast, there tend to be more unconventional emerging designers, and we see mainstream designers always challenging the trends and making new statements with what they send down the runway.” — Tiffany Hsu, fashion buying director, Mytheresa.com

“Prior to the Nineties, America’s iconic talents — Calvin, Ralph, Donna — followed a similar path. They came of age on Seventh Avenue, eventually coming out from behind the curtain to form their own labels that grew into empires. Designers were strongly endorsed by powerful magazine editors and a robust department store community, which had enormous influence over American consumers….Today, with the rise of social media and the diminished role of traditional magazines and retailers in influencing customers, fashion customers are finding the brands on their own terms. This has moved beyond the traditional Seventh Avenue model. Virgil Abloh, James Jebbia and Mike Amiri are among the disruptors. I thought that it was great that the CFDA started to recognize talent beyond those in the traditional Seventh Avenue archetype this year.” — Josh Schulman, president and ceo, Coach

“Fashion, like every other industry, is in the process of being ‘disrupted’ by Millennials and Gen Z. They don’t have any allegiance to anything legacy (media, retail, brand names). That’s dangerous for big, well-established brands, but possibly exciting for new ones. So what even is American fashion right now? I think we’re watching the industry figure that out. It needs more diversity. More size-inclusivity.” — Stella Bugbee, president and editor in chief, The Cut

“Something that’s very peculiar to me: If you look at the American designers who were around in the late Nineties, whether it’s Isaac [Mizrahi] or Todd Oldham or Daryl Kerrigan or Alice Roy, none of them were sustainable. There is this also weird question of — and I think it’s true across the industry though, not just in New York — like, where is the next generation of really solid creative talent, the kind of creative talent that moves the needle?” — Cathy Horyn, critic at large, The Cut at New York Magazine

“I would love to see larger scale companies engage with the next generation of talent in America, Telfar, Eckhaus Latta, Matthew Adams Dolan, Rodarte, etc. Big American brands do not take enough risks for fear of upsetting the apple cart; meanwhile they are losing the plot.” — Brian Phillips, founder, Black Frame

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