Advice: Education & Career Goals (PLEASE READ POST #1)

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  1. thisismaxwell

    thisismaxwell New Member

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    Seeking advice for fashion postgraduate

    Hi, all!

    This is my first posting here on TFS... I'm happy to be here after encountering several postings on the forum through Google searches in the past. I'm currently looking to pick up some advice regarding my current situation, in which I'm not quite sure of "what to do next", with a reasonably clear "end result" in mind.

    So, here's a brief summary...
    - 22 years old, from and living in Toronto, Canada (though have also lived in Italy and the UK)
    - I hold a BA (Hons) in International Fashion Practice from Manchester Metropolitan University in the UK - this was a one-year extension to a two-year diploma program I'd done at George Brown College in Toronto (so, two years of college, one year of university, the result being a BA degree)
    - My career interest is to become an intellectual property litigator for fashion related matters (specifically patents and trademarks).
    - While the logical next step is "go to law school", I still want to pursue postgraduate for a few reasons - those being...
    -- To strengthen my overall qualification with a master's or doctorate degree of some kind
    -- To undertake a couple of projects of fashion-related research that I'm keen on pursuing
    -- To become more versatile, in the case that I change my path from law, at a later time
    -- To "buy time", as I've still not decided where I want to live and practice law... it's definitely not Ontario, but I want to make sure that when I do go to law school, it will be in the right place

    So, originally, I was looking at research-based master's programs, on my professor's recommendation. According to her, my research on the assignments I'd handed in for her course, was the best in my class, and was of the calibre that is suited to postgraduate study. My concern with this type of course, however, is that I feel like it won't carry the same strength as a credential from a taught course, such as an MBA. That got me to thinking that the year or so it would take me to earn a master's could be more wisely used to get an "employer friendly" credential, then possibly used as entry to a PhD program, where I can undertake the more intensive research, and then go to law school afterward.

    I've realized that I have to be a bit more open minded when going after a master's degree, as there is very little (if anything) in the way of fashion specifically. The most suitable concentration I've found so far is luxury brands.

    I'm aware that it's currently a bit late to be applying for programs for September, but I've been assured by every school that there is no "fixed deadline", though as early an application as possible is advisable.

    So, here are the results of my research - these are the only three programs I'm looking at right now...

    MBA in Luxury Brand Marketing at Glasgow-Caledonian University (London Campus)
    http://www.gcu.ac.uk/mba/thegcumba/mbaluxurybrandmarketing/

    MBA in Luxury Brand Management at Accademia del Lusso (Milan, with parts of the program in Paris)
    http://www.accademiadellusso.com/en...er/mba_milan-paris_luxury_brandmanagement.asp

    MSc in Luxury Management at International University of Monaco (Monaco)
    https://master.monaco.edu/programs/master-science/masters-luxury-management.cfm

    Where I'm at right now is that I want to put in an application at all three schools, see what comes of it, and go from there. Failing that, I may end up just working for a year or two, especially as that will open up more MBA opportunities for me (especially as MBA programs tend to require work experience - I've checked with the programs I've listed, and I qualify for all of them).

    So, here's what advice I'd be seeking from the TFS community...

    - Given my current situation (recent BA graduate with a desire to take on further education), what do you think that my best course of action, given my end-goal (of being an intellectual property litigator) in mind? Note that the options I've listed for universities are only a guide, and what I perceive as being the best options based off of my knowledge. Consider there to be no limit to what you can suggest - I'd like to hear any opinions.

    - Out of the options I've listed, do you have any knowledge or opinions you'd like to share? For example, if you've attended any of the schools, know someone who has, or have heard certain things about it, I'd love to hear what you have to say. Likewise, if you've had a look at any of the programs in the links I've provided, and you have an opinion based on what you've seen, I'd like to hear it as well.

    - If you know of another school or program that would be a good fit, in your opinion, I'd love to hear any suggestions that you may have. I'd be interested in pretty well any fashion related discipline (including textiles), or possibly even consumer behaviours (that is the partial concentration for the major research project I want to go after). The only parameter is that I can't attend a US grad school, as writing the GRE/GMAT is out of the question.

    Any general commentary would be welcome, too. I have an idea of what I want to do, and less of an idea of how to do it, if that makes any sense.

    Also, if this posting violates any of the TFS policies (I've tried to familiarize myself with them as best as I can), please let me know, and I'll be sure to take action to comply straight away.

    Many thanks in advance, and I can provide further supplementary information as needed!
     
  2. BetteT

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    Welcome to the Fashion Spot! This is the forum for career advice and information and this is a good thread to start in, since you have a whole collection of concerns.

    I'm not sure you are going to get much direction here, mainly because not many members here, if any, are litigators or are pursuing that path. Certainly not me .... I was just a stylist .... no formal education required to do that.

    But, I'm happy to give you my limited thoughts on some of your questions and provide some direction to navigate through this Careers forum so you might be able to find more information.

    First ... I always say to apply to all uni's that you think might be of interest to you. You can decide later, if you have more than one offer. It's not an option if they don't accept you, anyway.

    Secondly ... you can search for threads about specific fashion schools by name (only some of the most recognized) ... or by region, such as Europe, Italy, etc. Just go to the nav bar near the top of the thread listings in this forum and us Search this Forum / by Thread Titles. There may already be something in a thread about your specific schools. This thread is more about general advice.

    You say your ultimate goal is to become a litigator dealing with intellectual properties? Or is it Management?

    I could be way off base here ... you may very well know a lot more than I do about this. In fact ... you can probably teach me something about the process of getting into law school. But ... it seems like two different careers to me and it makes me think that you may be taking the wrong path if the law is your first love.

    Here's a typical scenario, that might be similar: It's sort of like students who want to go into the business side of fashion .... marketing, buying, management, entrepreneurial endeavors, etc. Usually I have noticed that those people who have these jobs just study the basic business courses and sort of just end up in fashion. It's because the business skills are way more important than any knowledge of fashion ... Business is business, no matter what you are selling.So, studying something like "fashion design" or even studying at a fashion school would not prepare you to work with a company's financial goals better than a good business school. With business skills, you can work in fashion just as easily as working at an automobile manufacturing company or a grocery chain. The concept is pretty much the same ... and the skills needed are the same. I would think that it's pretty similar in law/litigation/intellectual properties ... you need the law education more than anything ... if that is your chosen path.

    The only advantage to studying at a fashion school for management or related business courses is possible contacts and internships ... where you can meet people who might hire you later. But don't law student take internships ... can't they apply to the firms that rep fashion clients or to the legal departments of major fashion retailers? Would you not save a lot of money and a lot of time by just going to law school? Unless you need that masters .... and fashion is just as good as any other way of getting it. Just food for thought ....
     
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  3. leo urameshi

    leo urameshi New Member

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    Hello everyone,

    I'm a french student. I have a Bachelor degree in computer science. But i always been passionate by fashion, and drawing. I'm also studying Japanese.

    I would dream to go study design fashion in BFGU : bunka fashion graduate university (an university based in Tokyo).

    I did research about the formation and there policy to apply.
    they have a cursus of 3 years (Bachelor) then they have a master of 2 year.

    Obviously it's possible to apply to the school at the begening of the Bachelor degree.
    I also saw that the french school named "Ensad" had sign a partnership with Bunka so they're student from the
    Master 1 and Master 2 could do a double degree.

    My question are :
    Do you know if there is other way to enter BFGU ?
    Indeed :
    1. Is it possible to apply/enter BFGU in Master degree after a Bachelor's degree in fashion that you passed in another university/school ?
    2. Are you aware of other school's that's have partnership to go study fashion in BFGU ? or in another Japanese fashion school ?
    3. Is it possible to apply/enter BFGU in Master degree directly if you already have skills ?

    Thanks a lot for your reply and help.

    Léo
     
  4. velvetandsilk

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    I think you should writing email to this school in Japan about recruitment process. Moreover, in all art school a very important is portfolio with your projects. If you studied computer science try connection this with fashion (3D print).
    In Paris the best fashion school is ifmparis, but selection is very strict. They colaboration with fashion houses and you can opportunity to learn production process.
     
  5. leo urameshi

    leo urameshi New Member

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    thanks a lot velvetandsilk for your reply and informations/advice.

    I will send to the school an email in english hope they will answer me back.

    I already knew about the portfolio.
    I been painting/branding a lot since for years and i'm taking courses in art with a coach to be prepared and to developp my creativity.
    I will also try to find a course to learn better how to draw human body cause i think it will be helpfull.
    I'm also starting an online courses about sewing because i never did that before...

    I studied computer sciences such as programming but unfortunatly they never teach us how to use 3D prints.
    But i would love to learn how to use them because with it you can create design objects wich relate to a brand for instance.

    Should i start learning more about 3d prints ? Or focus more on sewing and drawing in order to have a good portfolio ? Cause it's seems to me it would be a more helpfull skill for object design.
     

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