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Discussion in 'Designers and Collections' started by vogue28, Feb 10, 2018.
What a sad and gloomy show...
Tomas did wonderful things for BV but i think time has come for him to move on...
It fits NYFW perfectly tho.
He has been a hit-miss since 2015. Watching this I don't know what happened to the BV woman. The collections used to be really polished, femenine, with an excellent sense of artisanal and very strong. Now, I can't frankly say the same. It looks a bit messy and confusing. Some velvet pieces at the end were great but that's all about this. It's a pity that they wasted such amazing set with this offering.
Unfortunately there is nothing special about this clothes. Sadly I have to take back everything I said about BV in this forum. I dont think that he is moving forward of his comfort zone anytime soon.
The only thing that I like about these clothes is this very relaxed but luxury felling that I have looking at.
However I still a stan for BV because maybe this is bad but still more exciting that everything that is happening at Hermes right now.
this could be from a few years ago, it doesn't look very with the times
just like tom ford
his shows used to be full of amazing fabrics, yeah there are a couple of gowns that do that here but that's it he lost his spark lately.
I don't know what the times is right now. The current aesthetic right now, specially at NYFW is very clean and boring.
This is an era of chaos where everything and beyond can be fashionable but one thing is sure: boring and gloomy clothes were not fashionable before, now and surely not in 6 months.
It feels a bit rushed and it's lacking that Italian charm, I think part of that maybe due to it not being shown in Milan. Which would also have given them a further 2 weeks to finish the collection.
Why are so many looks devoted to menswear and only few looks for women? They should stop with the merge. I don't like the collection anyway.
I think it's time for him to go. In the last few years his collections have been so... there. It's just there. He reached that point in a designer's tenure when you don't really have anything left to say, so you just produce "stuff". No passion, no excitement. Just clothes.
Agree with the comments. I haven't been in love with a BV collection since that S/S 2015 one. Combining both the menswear & womenswear shows hasn't been that great of an idea IMO.
sad to see......
Given that I ll wear lots of the stuff here but yes it’s just...Bunch of pretty clothes. There’s no punch here whatsoever.
But do BV clothes really sell anyways?
^No really but as far as I know their footwear is doing good in recent years..
He never changes his 1950's-mad-men aesthetics on womenswear but I like it somehow, just too many designers are doing 70's vibe.
RTW only represent 3% of their sales (men & women combined) according to their 2016 results. That is quite low for a billion dollars brand. Hermès for example has a stronger RTW business.
All the luxury brands in Kering have a much stronger RTW business.
Gucci’s RTW represent 13% of their sales and YSL, 23%.
Looking at their collections, it’s not difficult to understand why.
What Facchinetti did for Tod’s could have been more relevant for a brand like BV.
I thought last season was a hot mess so this is a slight improvement for me, if not only for the restraint which I think works much better for a Bottega Veneta collection. But I agree with everyone else, there is little excitement left for this brand.
And it's a shame to see how little their RTW sells, I had no idea!
i miss the old bottega though...