Celebs vs. Models on Magazine Covers

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  1. lunabella

    lunabella New Member

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    it's alright if the celebrity used to be a model or is at least photogenic. but if the cover star is renee zellweger, that's no good.
     
  2. susie_bubble

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    Why not enough models are on magazine covers - Interview with Alexandra Shulman

    An interesting article taken from independent.co.uk

     
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    susie_bubble New Member

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    Cont.

    Taken from independent.co.uk
     
  4. L.A.Gant

    L.A.Gant Reinventing myself...

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    Thanks for posting :flower: Interesting article, gives a bit of perspective on some of the challenges fashion editors are faced when planning a cover among other things.... I guess the bottom line dictates whether an actress or model is put on the cover which leaves a magazine without much choice.
     
  5. pink_lipgloss

    pink_lipgloss New Member

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    wow, thank you for posting that article. Very interesting.
     
  6. eternitygoddess

    eternitygoddess Active Member

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    I prefer CELEBRITIES. Not many people are curious about high-fashion models at present. I would rather buy a magazine with Nicole Kidman on the cover than one with Natalia V.

    Celebrities are the rage. Although you may argue that Vogue, Elle, Bazaar are fashion magazines, right who's the biggest influence of fashion? Hollywood! Everyone looks to celebrities to see what the latest fashon trends are. Fashion coverage at awards ceremonies are huge.
     
  7. lacy99

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    I think it's funny that Alexandra Shulman said "diddlypoop".
     
  8. Label Basher

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    I personally don't care if UK Vogue & Harpers Bazaar nee Queen put celebs on the cover because they mix it up with celebs & models (last year they only had 3 celeb vogue covers Cate, Natalie & Gwyneth which means there was 9 months of models). So for me they are doing a good job and I hope it doesn't change.

    Whereas US Vogue & Bazaar are the bad eggs (not to mention US Elle, Glamour & Allure). It's celeb covers after celeb cover and it gets boring and they aren't even very good shots.

    The US versions need to learn how to mix it up and remember they have 12 issues and there is no reason why you can't still have a celeb interview inside.
     
  9. MissMagAddict

    MissMagAddict The future is stupid

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    An ed from US Vogue talks a bit about Models vs Celebs in the article. Hopefully it is OK to post in this forum. I wasn't quite sure where to post it. Anyway...Mods please remove if not OK.

    Time Is Right for New Supermodel to Emerge By
    SAMANTHA CRITCHELL, AP Fashion Writer Fri Feb 3, 2:18 PM ET

    Who'll be the next Cindy, Naomi or Kate? Will there ever be another Cindy, Naomi or Kate — all supermodels simply known by their first names? (Crawford, Campbell and Moss, for those with short memories.)
    Young catwalkers with dreams of being the next big thing begin an eight-day audition Friday at New York Fashion Week.
    The industry is ripe for a sensation because it's been five years — a lifetime in the fashion world — since the last household name: Gisele (Bundchen).
    But even if a model breaks away from the tall, leggy pack in New York, she still has to impress in Paris and Milan, Italy. Then she has to score some choice magazine spreads and ad campaigns — something that's become increasingly difficult to do as actresses such as Angelina Jolie, Catherine Zeta-Jones and Teri Hatcher consistently grace the covers of glossy magazines and hawk the fashion and beauty products that used to be models' bread and butter.
    In September 2004, Vogue — the fashion industry's bible — put nine familiar-but-not-famous models on its cover and heralded the return of the fashion model.
    Unfortunately, says Kate Armenta, the magazine's sittings editor, the theory didn't prove true.
    "The tide is really toward the celebrity culture right now. Models have taken on a different role. ... Gisele is well known but she's known more for Victoria's Secret or dating Leonardo DiCaprio, not by what ad campaigns she's been in," she says.
    Nian Fish, creative director and senior vice president at KCD, which produces shows for top fashion houses, says that's kept new talent from being developed into the next generation of fashion stars.
    "It's like how reality television takes away from actors, celebrities take away from models," she says.
    Runway regulars Caroline Trentini and Jessica Stam are pretty successful by industry standards but most average Joes would never recognize them on the street.
    Contrary to popular belief, not all models are carted around in limos while wearing chic dresses and high heels. Outside the Bryant Park tents where many of Fashion Week's runway shows are held, it's a common sight to see pretty young things smoking cigarettes in jeans and sneakers looking remarkably unremarkable as they try to hail a cab to beat the audience to the next show.
    To achieve top-tier status — the ones who are chauffeured from show to show while carrying handbags that cost more than startup models' monthly rent — you need more than a pretty face.
    Fish ticks off what matters more:
    • Bone structure.
    • Shape of head in proportion to body. (The classic fashion illustration of a small head and long body is indeed what the industry looks for.)
    • How she looks in clothes.
    • Her "hunger."

    "There's definitely work to this," Fish says. "Maybe you're not building a log cabin, but there's a lot of psychological wear and tear. They'll hear, `You lost weight,' or `You gained weight.' And you can't read the stares (of) the casting directors. All that, coupled with the tremendously long hours, which can be 6 a.m. to 2 a.m. if she's one of the working girls of the season."
    Some models develop the passion — and, maybe even more importantly, confidence — after a special moment on the runway or an ego boost from one top designer or photographer who lights the spark for "the wildfire effect," Fish says.
    Before that, though, aspiring models have to find an agency willing to bring them to the attention of casting directors. They're the ones who can see up to 500 models during the weeding-out process, out of which a handful make it to a session with the designers and creative directors.
    "A certain number of girls will start in New York City and get the good shows. The shows go immediately online. Then one or two models will start getting buzz, whether they do Marc (Jacobs), Calvin (Klein) or Karl (Lagerfeld), then they go on to a cool show in Milan and then THE show in Paris. ...Daria (Werbowy) was the most recent wildfire," Fish says.
    Armenta from Vogue says Werbowy came at the right time. "I'd seen pictures and heard of her, but when (Steven) Meisel shot her for Prada, it blew her out of the water. She was unique. She had such presence. She's so gorgeous and unique but not in an off-putting way."
    Occasionally, it's the shy girl who perseveres. Fish predicts Heather Bratton, who did the Chanel, Chloe and Burberry Prorsum shows last season and was then shot by Meisel for Italian Vogue, will have "an amazing season."
    Meanwhile, Armenta has her eye on Snejana Onopka, who has been photographed for American Vogue a few times since her turn on the Louis Vuitton, Valentino and Chanel runways last fall.
    The models not only have to look good in clothes but also "fit" them, says Ivan Bart, senior vice president of IMG Models, which represents Werbowy, Bundchen, Moss and Jacquetta Wheeler.
    Again using Werbowy, now the spokesmodel for Lancome, as the example, Bart notes that she had the hippie-chic look when everything coming down the runway had a bohemian style.
    "The main thing is the designers are always looking for the woman who best suits the collection, but, that being said, they always want a sure thing," he says. "The bottom line through all of it is selling clothes."
    It makes sense that designers first look at models with a paper trail of fashion advertisements because practice makes perfect, Bart says, just like with any craft.
    And it pays to be nice and easygoing. It's hard for anyone — including designers, casting directors, photographers, the audience and consumers — not to like an approachable, friendly person, Bart says. "Taking fashion shows out of the equation, when you're booked for a five-day trip on a remote location for a shoot, would a photographer, stylist, etc., want to be with you? You have to connect to people," he says. "You can't be too demanding or diva-ish anymore, not in 2006. ... If you're not in the best form and giving and excited to be here, there are a lot of other people who are happy to do your job."
     
  10. L.A.Gant

    L.A.Gant Reinventing myself...

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    Interesting article... I've read over and over again how hard it is these days to be a model let alone aspiring to be a top model with impact on the industry. Thanks for posting :flower:
     
  11. Hard Core Dior

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    Models vs Actresses

    So, who do you prefer in your magazine covers, actresses or models?

    I usually prefer models and it disappoints me how every magazine is using actresses now. Apparently it's because it sells more, at least that's what Vogue said when I wrote them a bitchy email.

     
  12. blues

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    I thought glamour finally got it right when they put Ale on their cover a few months back, but I guess they didn't. But again put the same old boring actresses back on. I'm getting real tired of Jessica simpson, and the likes. Lets have more of Ale, Ana, Isabeli, Gianne Albertoni who was just on Vogue Brazil, Izabel Goulart, Anja Rubik, Marija Vujovic just to name a few.They are much more exotic, interesting and fashionable.
     
  13. TheGlassAngel

    TheGlassAngel VSFS 2009!

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    I definitely prefer models. It's their job to on magazines, it's their territory.
     
  14. jakeee

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    agreedddd

    bring the models back!!!
     
  15. Spiral1532

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    Up until Linda Evangelista was on the cover of the August issue of Vogue, only actresses had been on the cover for a whole year. WTF? Vogue is supposed to be a fashion magazine.
     
  16. Whitelinen

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    I am definetily bothered by this trend. I can't come up with any reason for celebrities to have a lot for covers...

    Hollywood might be a big inspiration for people, but personally not for me. I don't love any celebrity's style to death, and there are very few who interest me at all. I wouldn't mind if the whole celebrity culture would just vanish. I wouldn't justify a trend to be right just because it is big, therefore I do not think this is a good thing that magazines should pursue.

    I don't like "knowing" the person who's in the cover. Each celebrity has a certain image, and they are in the covers to promote their image. The way a model does covers is quite different: a model takes the image that the photographer/magazine wants to have for their cover and makes it her own for that one cover. Model's work is to morph and fulfill the photographer's/designer's theme, not to promote their own image (with the exception of Supers and people like Gisele who are more like celebrities).

    Models are beautiful/photogenic. Celebrities rarely are, or at least lack a lot of that talent compared to models. I know that a lot of today's celebrities are ex-models, but then it's the image thing again.

    Sadly it seems to be that everyone wants celebrities, everyone needs celebrities and everyone buys celebrities.

    I've myself started to boycott celebrity covers, and won't buy any fashion magazines with a celebrity in the cover. I'm deadly bored by them.

    Ps. In the 90s even magazines like Elle had a lot of model covers...maybe due to the Super-trend, but not all of them were well-known.
     
  17. Erin

    Erin Iowa Girl Loves Fashion

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    I really think it's about money...

    I am with you. Celebrities for me... they're entirely more relatable... and much more mainstream, so there's much more of a chance for viewers, movie-goers, concert-goers to develop a liking to them.
     
  18. iluvjeisa

    iluvjeisa clever ain't wise

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    Well, I can certainly not relate to many celebrities.

    Since we didn't have celebs covers before but we do now, the money argument does not make sense. Why wasn't it all about the money before? Of course it was, so what has changed, really? Is it just simply that they're out of tricks of how to raise the profits? There's an example of a Swedish music magazine, rather revered a few years ago, which slipped into soft porn and is now all about the T&A and hardly even mentions music. I guess that's the way we're headed here, except in this context it will be the celeb that is selling themselves best at the moment, with no regard for their persona or photogenic properties. The least common denominator determines the covers in order to attract the most people with little concern about the purpose and image of the magazine.:innocent:

    The cover is no longer an an avatar of the magazine itself, it is thought of as a tool to attract the tools out there. Only, of course, it really is an avatar of the content and it is an immediate measurement of the extent to which the editors are selling out.
     
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  19. larien

    larien at the irish pub

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    i prefer models but you know magazines putting celebs on covers to sell because they are known better than the models.everyone is not close to models life as much as we are^_^ and they're not even know the name of many models that have editorials in the magazines just looking the clothes and passing it:doh:
     
  20. John Black

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    MODELS, MODELS and more MODELS on fashmag covers please!!! I am fed up with all the celebs - they are all over.
     

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