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Discussion in 'Designers and Collections' started by vogue28, Mar 3, 2018.
As we all know....unfortunately, the star of the show will be the Nike Cortez platform sneakers.
Personally.....I'm really fed up with Rie..... and her collaboration shoes with Nike.
Oh the photos of this show are so gonna be used for the / "it's fashion, look it up" meme.
It's awful, who wears this? not even Lady Gaga anymore.
It's a shame her collections are so comical nowadays.
I love Rei, i love CDG (she does some of the best skirts ever) but i'm tired of this.
What i hate about this kind of performance clothes or display of excess layered with a fake smoke of intellectualism or emotion is that it completely occult what made CDG a major brand.
It's sad that for the millenials, the new generation, CDG is either the brand for converse sneakers and easy pieces with the heart logo or this comical pot-pourri.
I feel like nowadays, more than ever, I need her to do what she does best and i'm sorry, clothes are what she does best. I need her to challenge feminit, to challenge taste, to experiment with cut but all in all through wearable clothes. Not that wearability is that important for me but i believe that being experimental while still having the feeling of wearability (and not practicality) is much more impactful.
I mean, Noir was great and it was maybe one of the best thing this season and it is still wearable and desirable while not necessarly being practical!
I like how crazy this is, not everything has to be ready-to-wear the minute the show ends... this is one of very few creative talents showing creations like this
Yes it's "creative" but it is almost too easy to do this kind of clothes. It's much more challenging at this point to return to "real" RTW...It's not like CDG is APC in terms of RTW...It's still normally challenging but this is just there.
Within the past 4 years...Rei has decided that she's tired o making clothes. I read an an interview with Rei Kawakubo...where she explained her thought process. At first...I thought her explanation was a bit pretentious....but I thought about it after a while....and it seemed to make more sense. She quoted that having to make clothes...."caused her pain." Not physical pain...but I assume she's implying mental anguish and frustration. She quoted that when she started Comme Des Garcons....she promised to herself that she would never repeat anything twice. She promised herself that every collection would be something new...and she would start every collection at ground zero. Taking into consideration that she's been presenting a collection every year....since 1980 (roughly)....she's become exhausted for original ideas. She quoted that her profession is much like a drug. She feels like she wants to stop...but her passion keeps driving her to continue. She quoted that the only way she was able to carry on....was by not thinking about clothes, practicality, or wearabiity. She quoted that people already have enough clothes that they can wear.... she wanted to present something new... that went beyond the boundaries and limitations of practicality or anything wearable. The point of her collections within the past 4 years...isn't about making anything wearable. Nothing in these collections is intended to be worn. To see these collections as anything wearable....means we're all missing....and not understanding....her point of view.
The spirit of Rei Kawaubo is....she a punk. A punk in the sense where her outlook has always been defiant. A non-confomist, anti-establishment. Breaking rules, challenging rules, and questioning them.... instead of following them. Much like many of her contemporaries who share the same outlook as she does. Vivienne Westwood comes to mind, along with Jean Paul Gaultier, John Galliano, and even Yohji Yamamoto. Fashion designers who didn't set out to present a collection where everything was wearable, pretty, or very pedestrian. So....in regards to everything she's been presenting within the past for years....or even from the most early stages of her career, Rie is holding true to her spirit. Personally, I don't like what's being presented, but its an outlook that I have to accept and respect.
i like this a lot more than last season. I'm going crazy over the first look, that deconstructed red ball gown and this look: http://imgbox.com/t5KRROXa
i so wish i could see the dress underneath the top.
Thank god for Rei. There's got to be a creative, valid, dreamlike alternative to all the hideous streetwear-passed-as-luxury fashion we're seeing collection after collection, and i'm glad she's here to do that. Sure, i sometimes miss her less conceptual and more stricly wearable collections, but still.
And...with all due respect....I personally have to admire Rie for who she is, what she represents, and who she's grown to be. Rie has built an empire for herself...and she accomplished all of this by staying true herself and her anti-corporate outook. Granted....her "company" is much like a corporate structure, but Rie is the person behind the helm and the person who's running the show. Rie is a fashion person, first and foremost. She's not a business person or a corporate exec. Other corporate companies, such as Louis Vuitton, Gucci, etc etc are mainly concerned with marketability, profit margins. Those corporate companies are not being run by a fashion person. Those companies are being run by a large group of "business" people. Business people care nothing about fashion and creativity. They only care about....money. Much about fashion these days....isn't being decided by fashion people. Fashion is now being decided.... by business people. Rei owns her own company....but she allows other designers under the CDG umbrella to florish and prosper regardless of how crazy...or borderline unwearabe they might be.
And in regards to a prior post that someone made.. within this thread.....and the mentioning of Lady Gaga?? Does she wear it anymore...or doesn't she.... doesn't concern me. I'm an old soul...and I'm 47 years old. I've heard of Instagram, but I honestly have no idea what its all about....or even care to explore what it means. From my understanding...it seems to be something where pics or "meme's" (???) are posted...and people are free to add their commentary. First and foremost...I'm a fashion person. I honestly care nothing about celebrities or musicians. I'm not the kind of person who takes influence for my fashion sensibility... from anyone famous. I don't need to see Kanye West wearing Cdg to make me realize wearing Comme.... is cool. Same with Lady Goo-Goo. I've been wearing Comme since 1987.....and I've been collecting Margiela pieces since 1990.....even Raf Simon's pieces since 1997. I don't need to see a famous person.....wearing whoe
Continued....I don't need to see any famous person....wearing whoever....to make me see and realize a fashion designers credibility. I've been wearing Comme...Margiela...Raf....Gaultier...Dries Van Noten for over 20+ years. I'm not going to put my faith and trust towards any famous person who has "recently" jumped on the CDG bandwagon. Overall....I think many of those famous imbeciles are a bit too late.
I totally got her point of view at the time and I also loved the collections that followed that process. The thing is that, I don’t see it going anywhere now. And she is starting to repeat herself a bit.
Maybe the next stage should be going even more abstract and being an artist and stop making clothes.
In a funny way some of those pieces looks like the sculptures Helmut slang did when he destroyed his archives.
I know it’s Rei and i have the greatest respect and admiration for her and i also know that we are not supposed to say anything negative or dismissive about her work but I do because I feel like it. I’m totally against that mentality of saying yes to everything because of the status of designer.
I’m just not touched by this show in particular.
I don't like some of the looks but honestly I love the fact that this type of collection shows up. It's nice to see Rei doing what she loves. And it serves right back to some people (the same people) who quickly jump in with their wearability and practical bull... Don't you have enough to wear with everything else presented in fashion week?
All those various materials with their textures layers and stacked like paper— or crepe, swirling and twirling about… would have been so rich worked into and onto her classic “like the boys” tailoring… If only she bothered— sigh…
The problem I’m having with these “experiments”, is that they are so less inventive, challenging and inspiring than when she does offer designs that are more on the commercial side. These all just resemble the costumes little kids wear for their 3rd grade play: You know— as a pumpkin, a carrot… I guess her woman’s shows have become this display for these types of “experiments” just to be pulled for 8-page feature edits in Dazed and i-D: Great marketing strategy that won’t cost her her anything LOL
(The Nikes are hideous. Despised them in the 90s, and they don’t age well at all in 2018.)
this is a little bit like the Gucci thread, the Raf Simons thread, you get the people that have pretty much always hung their expectations to a quick stage in the house' repertoire, maybe in 2007, 1997, 2004.. it's always something brief that would hardly sum up what a human's interests and pursuits in a creative field (with Raf it was ONE freakin' watered-down collection at Jil when people hated his work there from day one and until the very end but just giving a break right in the middle of his tenure) and from then on, it's always "Don't get me wrong, I LOVE [insert name], but this season it's really awful", multiply that same comment for 20 seasons (10 years). I don't know, if this natural rejection of their work has happened repeatedly for over 5 years, maybe you're just not into their work? it's fine, it's okay to like some oldie stuff.. it's just the mandatory disclaimer as some kind of fashion credential for judgement loses value without truth.
I thought this looked good in motion, almost as good as the soundtrack .. but it does look kind of s*it in pictures, and where are the details? stupid vogue.
Rei Kawakubo doesn't give a flying fig what I think about her collections...much like she never gave a shat about what any fashion journalist thought about her....or any fashion stylist. Rei is a punk...she presents what she wants to show....the way she wants it to be seen. Public opinion never mattered to her. If Rei had ever decided to believe what was being said of her, she would have given up on her career... right from the start. She set out to always present something new...which is exactly what's being shown to us...like it or not. No other established fashion designer...has the balls to show anything like this. That's why these collections look so new. Nothing out there...looks anything like this. Granted...they're very obsurd....and they're very incomprehensible. She's staying true to her sprit...and holding onto her integrity. She no longer wants to make a collection where everything is wearable. And maybe??... Just maybe?? These collections are kinda like Rei's way...of giving the middle finger to society. Genuine punk attitude from Rei. Gotta love her and hate her at the same time!!
are you referring to rie miyazawa, rie tomosaka, or even rie shibata ?
joke aside, I think the star of the show is magnificent futility.
the question put to fashion has been.......quousque eadem?
but, as pointed out long ago, perpetual sameness looking like ceaseless change, the renewed sameness is the essence of the culture industry.
what would you say of fashion future ?
the despairer lays plans. the eschatologist fathers children. the veteran still checks collections, even though he has had enough of them. are you "ravaged by humor" ?