Commercialising... Chalayan

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  1. Lena

    Lena etre soi-meme

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    well, if you ask me.. it was about time
    Hussein Chalayn needed to relax a bit,
    take it easy and lower his prices
    from the few looks posted his brand new 'low price' line
    seems quite modern, less 'stressed' than usual
    but pretentious as always, enjoy the silly-ness of
    this recent statements :P

    article and photos from wwd :flower:
     
  2. ultramarine

    ultramarine chaos reigns

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    Whoa! A "cheap n chic" line that's actually cheap and chic!!!!
    Kudos to Chalayan! OH ... and WHEN ARE YOU GONNA DO THE SAME THING ON MENSWEAR, Hussein?
     
  3. softgrey

    softgrey flaunt the imperfection

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    thanks lena...i didn't find it particularly pretentious...i think it's nice that he's trying to draw attention to the global issue of extinction... makes me think of katherine hamnett...

    also...
    it's an interesting idea to have the owner of the garment make a mark on it...because they do so figuratively,..so why not physically?...as people shop resale stores and use ebay...a garment may have several owners in its lifetime...i like the idea that each wearer leaves a mark...

    wouldn't it be great to do that with a sample collection...have each model who wears a garment write her name and where she wore it...then exhibit the pieces or make a book of photographs at the end of the season... i think that would be an interesting anthropological study...

    i bet if i was hedi slimane...i could get that book published...LOL...with an accompanying exhibit...LOL...
     
  4. Lena

    Lena etre soi-meme

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    the personal tag idea is still alive and kicking with traditional english 'college' labels, there is a name tag even at the wool scarves.
    as for the " Chalayan believes each garment is potentially a future piece of archeology, similar to a vase or a pot recovered from centuries ago" excuses, but i really find this pretentious and ridiculous...

    please dont get me wrong, i approve of the cheaper Chalayan pricing,
    it's great value for money, but it does make me wonder on the
    huge price gap with his 'prestige' line.
    If you can design and retail a T-shirt for $24 then how comes in your 'main' line same job costs $300+ ???

    the only explanation could be that his new line may be mass produced
    under contract in China or elsewhere, to cut down production/material costs. It may be affordable but at this price how good will quality stand?

    in anycase, good luck for Chalayan.
    and yes, i certainly dont believe modern garments are future pieces of archeology, they mostly end up wasted before their time.

    much more for the 'most' affordable lines
     
  5. Meg

    Meg inspired contemplation

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    I'm excited to see these in stores....though I won't here of course...love the first skirt though.
     
  6. softgrey

    softgrey flaunt the imperfection

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    have you seen that more and more contemporary artists are using clothing in their work?...i just read about a young artist who was commissioned to do a piece in the lobby of the museum of modern art here in nyc...she asked the museum staff to donatet clothes and did an istallation with them...then she took the leftover pieces and cut them up making a sort of collage...

    i know tracy emin in london is famous for making quilts that symbolise whatever she's trying to explore...

    the truth is that clothing will actually disintegrate over time...so it is unlikely to last long enough to become as meaningful as a pot that is uncovered from centuries ago...

    however-having just seen the dangerous liasons exhibit at the metropolitan museum of art...it does tell you alot about the people from the 1600-1700 when you see the clothing...certain dresses denoted your class or social status...and they were all VERY small...all the men's and women's clothing looked as though it was miniature...but that is because people were much smaller...i do think you can find out a good deal about a culture by studying their clothing...

    maybe it's a lofty idea...but i think it's a nice one...i think it's more idealistic than pretentious...but maybe that just because i'd like to believe that there are still idealists working in fashion...
     
  7. faust

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    I agree. I've read several interview with Husseyn, and he always struck me as romantic, not pretensious. This day and age it is so easy to confuse the two.
     
  8. softgrey

    softgrey flaunt the imperfection

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    i'm a diehard romantic... which is kind of hard sometimes... :rolleyes: :flower:
     
  9. luvkoshi

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    I will buy this stuff for sure. Does anyone else think the ads look Prada-ish?
     
  10. Lena

    Lena etre soi-meme

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    here, here i can see that

    *yes softgrey, artists are using cloth in their work,
    if chalayan wants to create 'potentially a future piece of archeology,
    similar to a vase or a pot recovered from centuries ago'
    i kindly advice him to enter a pottery class, it will eventually get him there.
    truth i'm not his biggest fan, maybe just becuase i've been in one of his recent shows .. to conceptual for my taste, simplify, simplify :wink:
     
  11. LolitaLuxe

    LolitaLuxe Vision of Paradise

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    :shock: i cannot wait to see more. sounds like a good idea!( to me.)

    thanks, lena
     
  12. runner

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    thank you Lena
    I hope he will never fall an easy prey to ONWARD Group.

    ultramarine, I hear he is to start its mens line from A/W 05-06
     
  13. Scott

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    I can't wait to see how this turns out. Doesn't look too bad.

    btw,I'd have to agree with Lena on this one. He does indeed seem to compare himself way too much to that of an artist....too conceptual and too intellectualized. Too cold. But maybe that's changing with this new venture?? I hope so.
     
  14. Mutterlein

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    I hope he does extremely well and other deisigners catch on.
     
  15. nuiko

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    i can't wait to see how this turns out.
    i love hussein's designs...his fall 2004 collection was especially wonderful
     
  16. Spacemiu

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    the clothes look good, nice to see moderate priced clothes

    i'm sick of comersialization, but what can you do?
     
  17. runner

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    the stuff has arrived over here. in stores now!

    white, khaki

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  18. runner

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    coat: beige, white, pink, black

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    top: yellow, white, pink, green, black
    pants: khaki, black

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  20. maarit

    maarit paint it black

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    I love the pictures and the first white dress!
    Thanks for posting :smile:
     

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