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Deconstructing Roy Lichtenstein

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a project by David Barsalou, who spent the last 25 years of his life going through every illustration in over 30,000 comic books…. in order to find the original sources of Roy Lichtenstein’s pieces

from lifelounge.com:
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David Barsalou has a lot of time on his hands... So much time infact that he has spent the last 25 years of his life closely examining every single illustration in over 30,000 comic books with the sole purpose of uncovering the original source material for the work of 1960s Pop Art icon Roy Lichtenstein. So far he has sourced about 140 specific illustrations that Lichtenstein has blown up and sold for mega bucks.

I was always under the impression that Lichtenstein used existing comics as a reference for his work but I had no idea to what extent he had replicated the original source. Barsalou explains "The critics are of one mind that he made major changes, but if you look at the work , he copied them almost verbatim. Only a few were original."

"Barsalou is boring to us," comments Jack Cowart, executive director of the Lichtenstein Foundation. He contests the notion that Lichtenstein was a mere copyist: "Roy's work was a wonderment of the graphic formulae and the codification of sentiment that had been worked out by others. Barsalou's thesis notwithstanding, the panels were changed in scale, color, treatment, and in their implications. There is no exact copy."

You'd have to assume that Barsalou is a bitter and frustrated art teacher undertaking a project of this nature but he claims that it's a labour of love. " I'm not doing this to be mean-spirited. I'm just doing it so people can make up their own mind if they think Lichtenstein was important or if they prefer the source images. ... I'm not making any money."

The whole Pop Art Period poses questions about copyright vs art. Is it really any different to producers using sampling techniques in modern music? On the one had the original artist that Lichtenstein copied/referenced would not have received a single cent for the painting that might have been sold for millions. But then again, it was Lichtenstein's vision that saw a miniscule detail in a random comic book and chose to isolate, rework and enlarge it to give it a whole new meaning. It's an interesting argument anyway."


his homepage
and flickr


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HA!

i mean, roy wasnt that bad of a drawer, why did he HAVE to replicate the same pose, expression and words of the original comics?

thank you leda for posting!
 
What a great article! Thanks, Leda!. It's amazing to see the images comparing the comic book frame to the paintings... well, it looks like copy work to me and I like the original frames better.

I asked a copyright friend about this and it is perfectly legal. But does his work deserve such a prominent place in the art world? I think the value of "art" is such a personal issue and I'd do one of these for myself instead of lusting after a Lichtenstein. I'd paint something from the 'Sin City' comicbook... B)

Edit: I just read on the Lichtenstein Foundation's site that in 1951, that "Philip Pearlstein begins his early comic-strip paintings; eventually he destroys all but one of them." I wonder what effect this had on Lichtenstein.
 
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HA!

why did he HAVE to replicate the same pose, expression and words of the original comics?

Hasn't this got to do with the key themes of pop art though?, mass production, commodity fetishism etc
 
replication of low art into high art was a main conceptual direction in pop art. its called appropriation.

but he still changed tons of elements in between comic and final work, from scale, color, composition, editing, not to mention the whole remaking printed image into painted works.
 
^see, that's the thing, it's all about 'concept'. it's all about supposingly making society see 'the light' in something.

what i said was why can't he create his own comics maybe in the similar aesthetic as actual comics. how would you feel if you were the comic artist that drew the original comics and did not get big bucks nor recognization, while lichenstein pretty much replicated the exact same image and was raved for revolutionizing pop art along side with warhol.
it's one thing to have the same aesthetic, but it's another to have pretty much the same basic make up of the original as lichenstein's own.

i dont care whether it was his 'point' to use ready-made comic images or not, moral wise i think he just found a gimmick to make him famous by revamping smaller artists' work.
 
the difference is that lichtenstein took that image that would never have seen the inside of a gallery or museum and transformed it into fine art. the comic artist got paid to make that image for the printing, he doesnt deserve recognition for making that image into high art, lichtenstein did that. and fyi once an image is in the public domain, anyone can do what they like with it, so long as it is not reproduced exactly (or isnt caught) ever heard of collage? it is irrelevant that the maker did not receive credit.if you can go see a lichtenstein painting IRL, you'd totally see the alteration. its one thing when there is an 20 x 12 foot painting in front of you in comparison to a 2 inch by 3 inch piece of paper; and two images resized to compare next to each other on a computer screen.
 
it's totally awesome to see these next to one another....

if lichtenstein wasn't a tiny bit insecure about them being shown together...
he might have been more forthcoming about his original sources..
and this guy would not have had to spend the last 25 yrs looking for them...
:lol:...
i was certainly under the impression that he had changed them more...

i thought that he at least changed the words...
i have to admit that i am a bit disappointed at the lack of variation...

just like when vanilla ice only changed one note on that bowie/queen sample...
it's just a little too close to home for it to be cool...:ermm:

but it is the point of pop art...
to elevate the every day...
so it's valid from that point of view...

but that sinking picture has always been one of my faves and i am sorry that it didn't originate with lichtenstein...esp since that is one of the more blatant duplications..
it's just a bit disappointing...


thanks a lot for the pics and the topic leda....:flower:
 
i feel incredibly ambivalent about the so called Pop Art period, thanks to all for voicing some very important issues...the ongoing debate on authenticity, arbitrariness and institutionalization of (what is proclaimed as) art needs investigators such as Barsalou and the Lichtenstein foundation's mouthpiece spouting theoryspeak irks me the most here, since i don't see it as an attack but as a contribution to a more educated appreciation of Lichtenstein
 
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