Designer & Fashion Insiders Behavior [Read post #1 before posting]

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  1. Will Ross

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    God can the two of them go up in flames already. For every good thing they’ve ever done they’ve completely cancelled it out with the majority of their consistent behavior. They literally are like trump with racists making their uneducated troll base feel like they have any ounce of empowerment to judge things so far out of their spectrum of understanding. For two people who supposedly worked in fashion they know a whole lot of nothing and perpetuate a ton of problematic stuff. I’m still blown away they weren’t shut down hard for a ton of liable accusations they have knowingly made based off personal bias and paid sponsorships.
     
  2. Benn98

    Benn98 Well-Known Member

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    Serves him right!

     
  3. Will Ross

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    What is it not showing up...
     
  4. Lola701

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    Ahaha! Simon is going Hollywood now...
    I know it was his dream all along. Don’t let him « humble persona » fool you...

    The Kardashian are very « cagole » in their way so I guess it reminds him of Marseille.

    I wonder if he will hangout with Olivier now that they have the « same friends »
     
  5. Will Ross

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    Ugh knew it was this - he has been bouncing around all the weho gay spots too. Literally was on my friends story out and about and looked wasted. (Nothing wrong w that but facts lol). Prob why Gordon didn’t want him anymore.

    I mean tacky goes where tacky goes

    Never have understood his allure, clothing and looks wise. He’s maybe a 6 on a 10 scale in my book and that’s on appearance.
     
  6. Lola701

    Lola701 Well-Known Member

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    I find him cute and I like his clothes...
    I just feel like sometimes he is a bit unauthentic and I find his fake candor annoying.
     
  7. dsamg

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    Can you give any specific examples? Not saying you're wrong, I just haven't noticed any examples of this and I know you work in the industry so are much better educated.
     
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  8. Benn98

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    It's one thing to go Hollywood (everyone does it, from Theyskens to JWA), but the Kardashians? Worse still, the 2nd least relevant one on their hierarchy, only a notch above the brother? :unsure: I mean, it's not even Kim or Kendall.....
    You are the company you keep.
     
  9. Will Ross

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    They fail to educate their followers that the referencing rule is if it’s 10 years plus it’s fair game. Accusing and destroying designers reputations for referencing a Bill Blass design from the 70s isn’t copying its normal. It’s like saying oh you made a pair of jeans so you must have copied Levi’s etc. Sure the Virgil digs are warranted and that recent and blatant of copying is and calling out racism etc but calling people like gosha (not defending gosha just an example) a child molestor w/o solid facts and allowing the police to investigate is grossly irresponsible and dangerous for the supposed victim. Stuff like that are why I say what I do. Also have you seen them try to curb their followers who tell people that their kids should kill themselves in comments and dm or others that just say oh I don’t agree with you and then have their pages flooded with trolling that at times the duo actually likes the comments etc. Happened to a friend of mine recently when they commented they were biased, she was called pig, fat, whore, idiot etc.

    Addition Tony runs a men’s line that is copying Prada and others prints but never mentions that also. It’s literally a line of shirts that are “copies” of Hawaiian shirts lol the hypocrisy lol.

    All in all as someone in the industry most brands besides the ones that pay them don’t even want them at their shows anymore as they have alienated everyone with their own self interest/egos. Those that pay them for positive “press’s also includes brands like Prada, Gucci, Matches, and Valentino. Remember how easy they were on Prada for the blackface monkey then next post called them visionaries for the frankenstein collection lol. I have personally seen their emails to brands asking for free clothing and then have seen them suddenly post negative about the brand when it’s not fulfilled

    It’s super important for people that claim to be journalist or shadow as one to ensure they verify their facts extensively and that they just don’t do anymore. Fame and power have gone to their heads.
     
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  10. Will Ross

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    He’s a tad late to be chasing the Kardashian crew even if it was Kim but I mean you are right with the company you keep. Narcissists love other narcissists.
     
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    businessoffashion.com

    I mean, you don't have to milk every single thing that comes your way Virgil, you still have time ahead of you to make money. I hope he feels better though, and let this be a lesson that everyone should listen to their body and have a balanced life. Rest is important.
     
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  12. Marc10

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    This screams rehab to me...
     
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    James Scully mentioned on IG about how many girls reported fittings lasting 8+ hours only to have them canceled last minute. He also said many girls were crying backstage at Michael Kors.

    Looks like fashion week shenanigans are back. Lets hope this isn't the norm for the rest of the season.
     
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  14. dior_couture1245

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    I have no patience for James Scully.

    He acts like the biggest saint and as if he is the moral authority on everything...protecting all the innocent girls from objectification.

    Meanwhile, his Instagram account is almost exclusively naked pictures of men in the porniest way. Objectification much?
     
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    He was talking specifically about the Marc Jacobs fittings (at least that's how I understood it) - the girls crying at Michael Kors were supposedly crying because of this.
     
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    Ahh. Thanks for clarifying!

    Not cool, Marc.
     
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  17. dior_couture1245

    dior_couture1245 Fat Karl

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    I personally don’t feel bad for the model doing an 8-hour fitting, even if she ends up cancelled.

    No one here is wasting tears on any of the team member’s who usually put in 3-4 sleepless nights prior to show day, after a culmination of months of hard work, oftentimes having their product dropped from the catwalk. It is what it is.

    A lot of people work really hard to make a show happen. Not just a model.
     
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  18. ThatDudeOverTher

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    This exactly the kind of attitude which makes people believe that they can mistreat and abuse models.

    Models are people providing a service to these, usually, multi-million dollar brands. The people on the team you talk about and who lose out on a couple days of sleep are on staff and will get a salary when all is said and done. The models typically aren't paid for shows and when they spend all that time doing fittings, only to be canceled prior to the show, it sucks! It happens, but that doesn't take away from how it makes them feel.

    Compassion has become a thing of the past apparently...
     
  19. billiejbob

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    Agree. The industry needs to be much more highly regulated when it comes to models being paid for the time they've committed to a designer. To simply say "Oh, that's how the industry works" just feeds the exploitation.

    I hope model groups like the Model Alliance start naming and shaming brands more not paying models or paying them with clothes. Clothes don't pay rent or the debts you owe your agency.

    And if you're a brand that can't afford to pay your models then you probably shouldn't be showing at NYFW or any other fashion week. Do a lookbook with a mannequin.
     
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  20. dodencebt

    dodencebt Well-Known Member

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    I think a good solution (albeit a much more expensive one compared to what is being done now, and something designers would never accept anyway) might be models being fairly compensated by the hour for their time and work prior to a show, i.e. for fittings, and receiving the rest of their show fee if they do end up walking. Because yes, sometimes fittings are long and looks get cancelled and there is nothing a designer can do about it, but that way models will be compensated for their time just like others across industries. I mean, if a client requests software from me that for some reason ends up not being developed, I will still get paid for the hours spent on initial research and preparing a proposal - it's the client who's going to lose money, not me. I don't see why it should be different with models. Sadly the fashion industry doesn't want to hear about such fair practices.
     
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