Designer John Galliano Arrested in Paris, fired from Dior

[Ali.M]

I love the above person's logic that minorities can't be bigoted... please.

No, I did not write that and that's not my logic.

 

[jomarlushka]

I know that two months ago he had an important meeting at GAP in the states, and I've heard Dior wasn't so happy about it.

yeah, I am sure they plotted everything against poor Galliano and made him go on this crazy outburst of his...I find it strange that people expect to have sympathy for his dismissal - there is something as work ethics and he clearly crossed the line - If I or any of my collegues at work would be discovered and revealed on tape by slurring on a drunk rage expressing what he did we would also have lost our job - it's not like he is only being sacked for being famous - of course the whole media attention made it all being blown up and made worldwide circus but: if my boss would see me do that he would sack me so it's not only the bad guys at Dior who wanted to get rid of the poor genius, sorry for my sarcasm but even if it's the case that they were not happy with his job he ultimately had given them a reason to be fired by being totally out of control and working in a public field makes you accountable even in your spare time if it casts a bad light for your position and representation of your work and company or other kind of work if you work for the government or a state related organisation or university or whatever.

I think it is understandable that he got fired. He was obviously not in the position to hold such a highly demanding and responsible job - It's good that he entered rehab. Hopefully he can get help for his troubles and health issues

His mindset and the things he said will nethertheless not disappear and can't be rehabed - and I can only repeat that I am really suprised that there are so many out here in this thread who do not see his outbursts (we can so far only speak from the one on tape as 100% sure), the second one is pending to be confirmed or denied - as inacceptable, no matter if he insulted only one certain community or religion - it's historical that especially antisemitic remarks are being treated vehemently sensitive in France, the Netherlands, and other countries who where at least partly occupied during the Second WW and had unfortunately also supporters within the country for the Hitler regime...there are even stricter laws concerning any kind of speech concerning jewish discrimination in Austria and Germany ("Wiederbetätigung") falling under special laws like someone already mentioned anything related to the Naziregime and past approving it and supporting the mindframe of those times. Of course it should include every group or even individual having been affected by the killing and harrassement of the regime but it is historical that it all started and that the main target where indeed the jewish community and 6 Mio. where killed in a way never seen and repeated in such a 'planned' offical way.

I understand the world being shocked - I am myself

 

[FASHIONLOVA]

Galliano's lawyer on french tv last night:

so in that video his lawyer clearly states that he s not in trial because he said i love hitler but rather because of the incident with the italian girls.
he also says the reason the video will not be taken into consideration is because nobody knows under what circumstances it was taken, if he was provoked ...
Galliano is in rehab and he s getting a lot of support from a lot of artists.
according to the lawyer, Galliano was drunk and had taken lots of meds.

okkk he brought up something weird:
he said that it would ve been easy for Galliano to answer to all this publicity about the video by doing something else himself for publicity considering THE VIDEO OF CHRISTIAN DIOR's NIECE where she clearly states she has tremendous admiration for Hitler and that he s her role model. he also expects Dior to react the same way they did with Galliano towards the niece.
he said that right now Galliano is INNOCENT until proven guilty if he ever is. and he will eventually talk when things calm down a bit.
apparently since 4 days people have been going to the police filing complaints then withdrawing them then coming back to the police to file them again, which according to him doesn t make sense at all.

basically this is everything he said, i tried to translate as he was talking so sorry if there are any mistakes. hope Dior regrets firing Galliano

 

[mistress_f]

THE VIDEO OF CHRISTIAN DIOR's NIECE where she clearly states she has tremendous admiration for Hitler and that he s her role model.

i hardly speak any french, but is this what he was talking about? http://www.ina.fr/video/CAF96034711/colin-jordan-et-francoise-dior-se-marient.fr.html

 

[angel222]

^Yes, I think that's the video the thing is Dior was dressing and doing business with the Third Reich during WWII. Of course now they changed the laws for inciting racial hatred if you made the same statement.

 

[tarsha]

Though designer John Galliano is out at Christian Dior as he faces allegations of anti-Semitism, the label's fall 2011 collection will walk tomorrow in Paris. It will be bereft of its finale — Galliano taking a bow in his flamboyant way, wearing his flamboyant costume — which has come to be worthy of as much anticipation as his designs themselves. But the design team at Dior will finish the collection, which was not finished before Galliano's dismissal, sources tell The Wall Street Journal.

Galliano may or may not make that famous bow of his at the show for his namesake label on Sunday, which is also scheduled to go on as planned. But following the show, the label's fate is unclear. Suzy Menkes reports that the LVMH-funded brand "barely breaks even financially," and that it remains to be seen if the licenses that support it will want to remain tied to a scandalized name. It's hard to imagine any big celebrities wanting to sit front row at that one, but plenty of people are speaking out in support of Galliano, so maybe those types will show.

nymag

 

[sethii]

The front row will be fascinating.

 

[papillote]

i hardly speak any french, but is this what he was talking about? http://www.ina.fr/video/CAF96034711/colin-jordan-et-francoise-dior-se-marient.fr.html

OMG THAT VIDEO IS SO AWFUL that it must certainly be what he was talking about, yes !!

 

[Fantomette]

Thanks for the INA link I didn't know this video. She denies the term "fascist" and uses the expression "national-socialiste" instead (I don't know how to accurately translate) but it's obvious when she starts talking about the aryan race and the importance of venerating the Führer that she is fascist. I saw the interview of Galliano's lawyer on TV and mentionning Dior's niece was a lame attempt to focus the attention on another person by creating another scandal.
Thanks to the person who cleared things about the trial because many don't seem to understand: it will for the alleged assault that happened a few days ago but not about his racist words in the video that was leaked.

 

[UrMom]

Hmm. Thats interesting. I cant understand what she was saying, but wouldn't it certainly be interesting if he was talking about Christian Dior's niece and that part got cut off lol? Anyway with the video not being used as evidence in the trial, it will be interesting to see the outcome. Seems as if it is nothing more than he say, she say so far. With that said, If he happened to come out innocent for whatever reason, I wonder if he will remain fired.

 

[m.j.]

his show has been canceled.

as for the video IT IS interesting.... talk about double standards..... talk about morals and values... makes u question everything - and i am defending John, there are laws. BUT....

 

[papillote]

Another interesting article, another point of view : Licenciement de Galliano : "Un geste opportuniste de la part d'une marque opportuniste"

 

[mistress_f]

i really liked what olivier zahm wrote about this situation (not the first post he made about, but this one that followed the release of the infamous video)

When I saw the iPhone video that people were sending me of John Galliano proclaiming his love for Hitler at La Perle, I was shocked. I never heard him saying anything like that before, even though I may not be one of his closest friends. Evidently, John is haunted by a morbid, anti-Semitic obsession, and the words and threats that can be heard in this video are inacceptable. I can find no excuse for this, whether or not he is drunk or on medication, or even his extreme megalomania.

However, his drunken anti-Semitic tirade seems to be more of a desperate cry, a public suicide, a hardcore Brit-punk provocation, than an affirmation of any racist convictions. I mainly harbor a great sadness for John Galliano because this unfortunate incident (and once again, intolerable) marks for him a sudden end — one that is unworthy of his rare talent and his extraordinary sense of mise-en-scène.

Clearly, in this absurd altercation, John Galliano is expressing the distress of a designer worn-out by this industry, isolated from others by his eccentric celebrity and his megalomania, dissocialized and profoundly alone. It seems that the only way John could interact with unknown people that night at La Perle, in his search for a contact, was to provoke and frighten them on the evening that this video was taken. The hate for others is most often the expression of the hate of one’s self and an obscure impulse for self-destruction.

So John, speaking as a member of the fashion community who has always been inspired by your work, I think we are all only waiting for you to publicly excuse yourself, to admit that what you said is just ******* crazy! But mostly that it’s not what you truly believe. If you can confirm this for us, the entire fashion world would be able to come back on your side. And I, personally, don’t want you to become an Internet pariah. I still want to see more John Galliano collections — you’re one of the last designers of my generation that still believes in the power of fashion to make us dream.

Love,

Olivier Zahm

 

[Almásy]

his show has been canceled.

as for the video IT IS interesting.... talk about double standards..... talk about morals and values... makes u question everything - and i am defending John, there are laws. BUT....

Could you please refer to a source of this information?

 

[Ciao!Manhattan]

i hardly speak any french, but is this what he was talking about? http://www.ina.fr/video/CAF96034711/colin-jordan-et-francoise-dior-se-marient.fr.html

Oh dear god, this video is awful.

 

[m.j.]

Could you please refer to a source of this information?

#232

 

[Fantomette]

Another interesting article, another point of view : Licenciement de Galliano : "Un geste opportuniste de la part d'une marque opportuniste"

Thank you for the link it is very interesting... and a bit cynical.
The person interviewed is a marketing teacher at the Institut Français de la Mode. Basically he believes that firing Galliano was a great PR move for Dior because they've been wanting to get rid of him for a while. The video gave them the opportunity to do it in a very clever way that also allows them to defend ethics (according to his theory). He says it is an opportunistic move which does not surprises him coming from a brand that is now more about marketing than art. (I hope I didn't misquoted him in my translation.)

 

[Chrison]

According to Le Fegaro,Sunday's John Galliano show is cancelled.

 

[angel222]

Francoise Dior is the Niece here is her Wikipedia Bio:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fran%C3%A7oise_Dior

Françoise Dior (7 April 1932 – 21 January 1993) was the French ex-wife of British National Socialist Colin Jordan and a niece of fashion designer Christian Dior. She was a well-known supporter of the postwar Nazi cause. Dior was a close friend of Savitri Devi, a prominent devoted neo-Nazi philosopher.


Born in Paris, Marie Françoise Suzanne Dior, was the daughter of Raymond Dior and his wife, the former Madeleine Leblanc.


Initially she was a Royalist. She married Comte Robert-Henry de Caumont La Force, the grandson of Aynard Guigues de Moreton de Chabrillan who unsuccessfully requested the throne of Monaco after the 1949 death of Louis II, on the 26th of April, 1955. They had a daughter, Anne-Marie Christiane, born on 4 November 1957, who would commit suicide on the 5 July 1978.[1]. They divorced in 1960.


She travelled to London, in the summer of 1962, after reading of the National Socialist Movement's rallies. She became engaged to John Tyndall who was later incarcerated along with other members of the party for paramilitary activities, but married Colin Jordan who had been released before Tyndall. This act played the central role in the lifelong split between the two former allies in 1964. After a civil ceremony at Caxton Hall, Dior and Jordan married on 5 October 1963 at 74 Princedale Road, London W11, the former home of Arnold Leese; the wedding pictures, that saw them mingling blood from their fingers over a copy of Mein Kampf, were published widely in the press. Dior also stated that she longed "to give birth to a little Nazi".[1]

Dior split from Jordan, eloping with her 19 year old secretary Terence Robert Cooper, returning to Paris on 16 March 1966. In October 1966, she was imprisoned in Nice for four months over an old case of posting swastika labels on the walls of the British embassy, having been tried according to French law during her absence in Paris before her marriage. She returned to Britain on a brief visit in April 1967 but was arrested and sent to Holloway prison charged with arson of London synagogues in 1965. On her release in 1969, she left Britain permanently to live in Normandy.


In 1983, she joined the Rally for the Republic (R.P.R.) where she met and married Comte Hubert de Mirleau. Martin Webster made two visits to Paris and she gave him some money to help fund the short-lived Our Nation group that he had founded following his expulsion from the British National Front.


A heavy smoker since her teens, she died on 21 January 1993 in Paris of lung cancer, aged 60.

 

[Master Wood]

Interesting about the financial state of John Gallianos brand. I always wondered how well that actually sold because I rarely see it stocked (mens or womenswear).

I think it is interesting that their has been no mention of Gallianos personal life. He had a boyfriend called Alexis Roche, whom as far as I'm aware he was still with. Does anyone think this could be a factor? Perhaps there was a breakdown in the relationship.

I find it funny also how the the mood is changing. Everyone is so quick to judge all the time, and as more light is shone on this dark situation, the sheep slowly return with their comments of sympathy. I will stick by John whatever he does. My faith in him is blind.