Dior : The Madhouse

Discussion in 'Designers and Collections' started by PrinceOfCats, Jun 18, 2004.

  1. PrinceOfCats

    PrinceOfCats Naturellement pulpeuse

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2003
    Messages:
    10,125
    Likes Received:
    0
    Okay...do you think Galliano is any cop? Why is it he can produce such wonderful clothes and then utter trash like DiorSurf? Is this simply a clever business move to pedal trash to the St Tropez crowd while making proper clothes for the real Dior clientele? Is he devaluing the house of Dior? Does Galliano even design some of the total trash seen on his shelves?
     
  2. Nader

    Nader Active Member

    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2003
    Messages:
    1,544
    Likes Received:
    0
    I like to think of his talent as having a bipolar quality to it :)
     
  3. Atelier

    Atelier Hoppity Hop

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2003
    Messages:
    7,989
    Likes Received:
    1
    Why is today "Dump on St. Tropez Day"?
     
  4. purplelucrezia

    purplelucrezia New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 10, 2003
    Messages:
    13,808
    Likes Received:
    0
    He definately has talent, his earlier collections attest to that. However, I think that over the years he's gone a bit overboard. After all, if he can get away with making over-the-top outfits and still make money, he'll do it. As for the insanity thing, all great artists are a touch crazy. ;)
     
  5. chanel_girl

    chanel_girl Melody Nelson

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2003
    Messages:
    2,836
    Likes Received:
    0
    Honestly I think that Galliano is enormously talented but his ideas for Dior are a little crazy
     
  6. Spike413

    Spike413 barcode

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2004
    Messages:
    14,812
    Likes Received:
    1
    Interesting way to put it, but I kind of agree with you.

    I feel that Galliano has an immense amount of talent and imagination. I guess it comes down to every designer has a bad collection every now and then. For me anyway Galliano is usually good, there's always something I like about his collections, but sometimes (like this fall) he puts out a collection that I don't like or that I feel is kind of beneath him but this is because I expect a certain quality from him, most of the time he delivers, sometimes not so much.....he's only human.

    So yeah, I agree with you Nader
     
  7. ebowleg

    ebowleg New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 7, 2003
    Messages:
    560
    Likes Received:
    0
    Of course not...With what women want today, do you think what Christian Dior designed would sell nearly as well today?...Galliano is good at making a spectacle and then creating something completely wearable and approachable to the consumer...What I do not understand is what makes one of his collections good and one of his collections bad (they all seem to look pretty unwearable to me :flower: ) Case in point:

    [​IMG]
    A "horrible and unwearable collection"...

    [​IMG]
    ....and how is this any better?

    Bottom Line: I love what Galliano does, the fashion industry needs designers like him to surprise and intrigue...At the end of the day, Dior sells-period :flower:
     
  8. Lena

    Lena etre soi-meme

    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2002
    Messages:
    23,866
    Likes Received:
    0
    too trashy for my cat,
    he started up talented but ended as the damaged star of the LVMH circus group, basically he makes me sad :ninja:
     
  9. Mutterlein

    Mutterlein Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 2004
    Messages:
    3,759
    Likes Received:
    275
    I enjoy John Galliano. He is what inspired my interest in fashion from the beggining. Of course sometimes he makes me shake my head (Dior Surf) But his shows unbelievable and you can't deny his incredible talent and ability to execute hsi visions. And you musn't forget his technical ability. Some of his pieces just leave you clueless as to how they were cut.
     
  10. kit

    kit New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2003
    Messages:
    1,506
    Likes Received:
    2
    Agreed absolutely , Lena :heart: :heart: :heart:

    He's ENORMOUSLY talented , but has let his ' imagination ' run away with him .

    Let's NOT forget that LVMH , with DIOR , has gone for the VERSACE , GUCCI , Roberto Cavalli market , and Galliano has run with this over - enthusiastically , as indeed he has NO other choice of doing , as he is the servant of his masters .

    Drugs have SOME part to play in this , but I feel that this aspect is kept in check , if only because his years in the wilderness would serve to remind him of what unemployment would entail .

    Don't forget also , that as to wearability , Dior is the premiere house for showing completely unwearable ' camp ' clothes which are watered down considerably for what actually goes into the boutiques .

    I only wish that his menswear for his eponymous label were given the same treatment !!! But perhaps a few seasons of only moderate showroom sales would see to this .

    Galliano really IS self - indulgent , but I feel that it's with the tacit support pf Bernard Arnault , whose backside Galliano is supposed to be at least half-way up !!!

    THIS may cast SOME light :-

    http://observer.guardian.co.uk/magazine/st...1094714,00.html

    KIT :innocent:
     
  11. Spike413

    Spike413 barcode

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2004
    Messages:
    14,812
    Likes Received:
    1
    I remeber reading about his fathers' death just before the f/w 03 couture, but reading about how he hid it so that the show went on mad me sad. Anyway though, I always find it interesting in articles like this how it puts a more human face on these famous designers, you know what I mean? Galliano could be seen as this flamboyant showman, but then you read an article like this and it kind of balances out the famous Galliano with the real Galliano.
    I love the way he described that homeless collection he did (a personal favorite). In a strange way, I can see where he's coming from, if not in seeing the beauty of the homeless themselves, then being able to take something not typically beautiful and finding beauty in it.

    Well, I'm tired so I can't even remember everything I was gonna say.......I'm out for now.
     
  12. ultramarine

    ultramarine chaos reigns

    Joined:
    Jan 7, 2003
    Messages:
    6,405
    Likes Received:
    1
    There's no ALL OF THE ABOVE option? ;)
     
  13. Scott

    Scott Stitch:the Hand

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2003
    Messages:
    12,969
    Likes Received:
    2
    I think Galliano is immensely talented...but I don't think he's utilizing any of it.
     
  14. wyatt.

    wyatt. New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2004
    Messages:
    3,321
    Likes Received:
    0
    haha.


    i think people are too hard on him. besides...i think his collections grow on everyone after awhile.

    if there wasn't that initial shock [mostly of disgust] then you would forget about it. galliano is good at keeping people's attention
     
  15. Sephora_Socialite

    Sephora_Socialite Fierce Flava

    Joined:
    Apr 6, 2004
    Messages:
    4,744
    Likes Received:
    0
    haha.


    i think people are too hard on him. besides...i think his collections grow on everyone after awhile.

    if there wasn't that initial shock [mostly of disgust] then you would forget about it. galliano is good at keeping people's attention [/b][/quote]
    ditto....

    he's talented.
    hes trashy
    he is shocking.
    but that what makes him great...
     
  16. pinkcouture

    pinkcouture New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 14, 2003
    Messages:
    1,858
    Likes Received:
    0
    He's talented but sometimes he just goes a little too far...
     
  17. brian

    brian New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 2, 2004
    Messages:
    13,960
    Likes Received:
    0
    haha.


    i think people are too hard on him. besides...i think his collections grow on everyone after awhile.

    if there wasn't that initial shock [mostly of disgust] then you would forget about it. galliano is good at keeping people's attention [/b][/quote]
    exactly :flower:
     
  18. PrinceOfCats

    PrinceOfCats Naturellement pulpeuse

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2003
    Messages:
    10,125
    Likes Received:
    0
    If any of the people who voted him a talentless monkey admit to it and say why I promise to protect them from the hordes of Galliano fans :p
     
  19. Foxie-Pooh

    Foxie-Pooh Active Member

    Joined:
    May 25, 2004
    Messages:
    2,187
    Likes Received:
    1
    Well, the crazyness is what makes Galliano so great. Who would want any plain old fool as a "fashion" designer? You might as well settle for Target or Kmart couture :rolleyes:
     
  20. TheSoCalledPrep

    TheSoCalledPrep New Member

    Joined:
    Nov 30, 2003
    Messages:
    5,283
    Likes Received:
    0
    We seem to have very diverse poll results... ;)

    His "spectacles" are very interesting, creative and intelligently designed. But the tackiness has got to end. He realizes that America is a label country, but his prostitution of logos (Dior Surf :doh:) is starting to make some consumers think of it as a "trend" and shy from it.

    Just my humble opinion. :flower:
     

Share This Page

  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
    Dismiss Notice
monitoring_string = "058526dd2635cb6818386bfd373b82a4"