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EBay ordered to pay LVMH €38.6 million

By Doreen Carvajal

PARIS: A French court on Monday ordered eBay, the online auction giant, to pay €38.6 million in damages to LVMH, the French luxury goods company, saying eBay had done too little to stop the sale of counterfeit goods over the Internet.

The decision thrusts France, the home of many prominent luxury houses, further into the forefront in the battle against brand piracy.

Legal experts were surprised by the amount of damages awarded, the equivalent of $60.9 million, and said the ruling could have repercussions outside France, encouraging fashion brands to pursue new lawsuits against eBay or other Internet companies.

"It's quite unusual," said Patrice de Candé, a lawyer specializing in intellectual property issues in Paris who represented LVMH in its effort to challenge the search engine Google for posting advertising of counterfeit LVMH products. "I've never seen such an amount of damages in French law in my 23-year career."

From its offices in Paris, LVMH Moët Hennessy Louis Vuitton cast its legal victory as an "important step in protecting brands and products from parasitic practices" and praised the court for "a precious contribution to protect creative works that are important to our national heritage."

But eBay pledged to appeal the ruling, which allocates damages to a number of brands in the stable of the LVMH, which is headed by its chairman, Bernard Arnault, including the leather goods maker Louis Vuitton, Christian Dior couture and four perfume makers.

It was the second ruling of its kind that eBay has lost this year in France. Hermès International in Paris successfully sued eBay over fake bags that had been sold online.

In that case, another French court fined eBay €20,000, or $31,600, in June for not properly vetting the sales.

In the LVMH case, the court also threatened to impose a fine against eBay of €50,000 day if it failed to stop the advertising of fake goods.

Sravanthi Agrawal, a spokeswoman for eBay's European corporate division, cast the battle in far different terms than LVMH, which argues that it loses millions of euros a year to fake products.

She argued that the luxury goods leader is trying to stifle the sales of individuals who simply want to sell their mothers' used Louis Vuitton bags online.

"We are getting a clear sense from the owners and manufacturers that the problem is not counterfeiting," she said Monday from eBay's offices in Paris. The bigger issue, she contended, is one of control, because eBay is not one of the manufacturers' authorized distribution outlets.

LVMH argued that 90 percent of the designer goods sold on eBay were fakes, but Agrawal said the company had made great strides in improving its anticounterfeiting measures, removing more than two million sellers who had violated the trademarks of rights holders.

Ebay has faced similar lawsuits in other countries, including a pending case pressed by Tiffany & Co. in New York and another lawsuit pursued successfully by Rolex in Germany, over a breach of its intellectual property rights.

But France has proved to be particularly welcoming to brand owners on this issue, with challengers ranging from small online travel companies to the cosmetics manufacturer L'Oréal. LVMH has been one of the most aggressive litigators against Internet companies, previously winning a ruling against Google for permitting ads promoting Web sites selling fake LVMH goods.

LVMH employs investigators who troll the Internet in search of violations, and the company sends regular alerts to eBay. But the court agreed with its view that eBay bears responsibility for filtering the system and demanding assurances of authenticity.

Ebay is also appealing the judgment in the Hermès case, issued by a court in Reims.

"France has been at the forefront in the fight of counterfeiting through the Internet," said Fabio Angelini, a lawyer in Rome specializing in intellectual property issues.

Since 1994, French authorities have sought to root out brand counterfeiting through legislation that makes it criminal to buy and sell fake goods. For, example, tourists entering France could technically have their fake Louis Vuitton bags confiscated at the border by customs agents.

Jeff Hardy, coordinator of an anticounterfeiting campaign called BASCAP, which is run by the International Chamber of Commerce, said the French court ruling could influence other companies to follow the lead of LVMH.

"It will have enormous impact," he said. "The Internet is introducing new technologies and new marketplaces and new market actors that didn't exist before. I think this is the beginning of establishing new rules that will keep up with these evolving technologies and marketplaces."

Bruce Sunstein, a Boston attorney specializing in intellectual property issues, said that courts in the United States had found that eBay had a requirement, under trademark law, to remove counterfeit products. But the French are raising the bar by seeking "to impose an obligation on the auction site to vet an offer to sell goods before the offer is posted on the site."

"If the French ruling stands," he added, "then it may provide some incentive for a U.S. court to reach a similar conclusion."
 
From Reuters:

LVMH wins compensation from eBay over counterfeits
Mon Jun 30, 2008 1:22pm EDT

By Thierry Leveque

PARIS (Reuters) - A French court ordered eBay Inc to pay 38.6 million euros ($61 million) to luxury goods group LVMH for allowing the sale of fake merchandise, in a ruling immediately appealed by the online auction website.

Monday's decision, a month after eBay was ordered by another French court to pay handbag and scarves maker Hermes 20,000 euros for allowing the sale of counterfeits, is the latest episode in a long fight between luxury goods makers and the world's biggest online auctioneer.

"We will fight all these decisions in the name of eBay users, and we have decided to appeal," eBay said.

"If counterfeit goods are put up for sale on our site, we scrap them as soon as possible," it said.

EBay accused LVMH of having a hidden agenda.

"Today's decisions are not about fighting counterfeiting. It's about LVMH's desire to protect commercial practices that exclude all competition," it said.

LVMH claimed damages of about 50 million euros because it said eBay's French arm had not done enough to prevent sales of counterfeit items.

"For the first time in France it (the court ruling) clearly states the principle under which auction sites that operate on the web have to ensure that their activities do not permit unlawful dealings," LVMH said.

"The court has dismissed as without foundation the argument used by eBay to exonerate itself that its clients are solely responsible for their illegal undertakings when transacting. eBay is not a host but a broker," it added.

Monday's ruling covered separate cases by several different LVMH brands -- LVMH and Dior Couture as well as perfume brands Dior, Guerlain, Givenchy and Kenzo.

Ebay has been sued by jewellers Tiffany, which accused it last year of turning a blind eye to sales of counterfeits, and faces action from L'Oreal over the sale of perfumes on the site.

The issue, which potentially has important implications for online commerce, has particular resonance in France which has some of the world's biggest luxury goods makers and which has been at the forefront of efforts to fight counterfeit goods.

Luxury goods groups accuse eBay, which earns a commission on sales made through its site, of facilitating forgeries and counterfeits by providing a marketplace for vendors who knowingly sell fake items.

EBay says it has stepped up efforts to fight counterfeits through programs that analyze suspicious sales patterns by particular vendors as well as VeRO, or verified rights owners, a system that helps block sales of counterfeits.

But the group, which saw around $60 billion worth of goods sold across its platforms last year, says that as a host for independent vendors, it has only a limited responsibility and capacity to regulate what is sold on its site.

The conseil des ventes, the group that represents mainstream French auctioneers, has also sued eBay, which it accuses of trying to circumvent laws regulating the auction sector by claiming to be a broker.

In Germany, eBay lost a six-year counterfeit goods case to Montres Rolex SA last year when a federal court there ruled that eBay must do more to halt the sale of fake Rolex watches in cases of blatant trademark infringement.

LVMH filed suit against eBay in 2006 shortly after winning an earlier French court ruling against Web search leader Google Inc, which it accused of allowing counterfeit makers of Louis Vuitton handbags to advertise on its site.

In the Google case, the Paris Court of Appeals awarded LVMH 300,000 euros from Google for trademark counterfeiting and unfair competition. Earlier in June, the European Union's highest court agreed to hear an appeal of the Google-LVMH case.

Google has faced dozens of advertising trademark cases in France alone. EBay said the total number of suits brought buy luxury brands against it are less than a dozen.

EBay and Google have sought protection in U.S. and European laws (EU E-Commerce Directive) which provide safe-harbor to Internet services as long as they take action when informed of specific incidences of infringement or counterfeiting.

(Reporting by Thierry Leveque, writing by Swaha Pattanaik and Dominique Vidalon; Editing by David Cowell and Erica Billingham)
 
:shock: :shock: thanks for posting. intresting
 
Oh golly.

I sort of thought that bags labeled as "inspired by" like "Chanel-inspired earrings" were okay as long as they were sold not under the company name.

I guess that's allowed, correct? "Inspired by" only?
 
good!like ebay flat out does allow to end the auctions with the fake bags to run their course. horrible!
 
i sold my shares of ebay after i found out they allow counterfeit goods floating on their site.... this was long time ago! ok, i just needed to say that ... i'm bored.



[gah! the 4th was boring this year. ]
 

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