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Inspired by absurd stretches of logic claiming that Zara's campaign is somehow a reference to Gaza....

www.thecut.com

Zara’s New Campaign Is Under Fire for Parallels to Gaza Crisis

Activists call for a boycott of the brand after images from the retailer show mannequins wrapped in shrouds and models standing among rubble.
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What are YOUR fashion conspiracy theories?

Mine? I'll throwback to 1964... how much influence did Emanuel Ungaro REALLY have on André Courrèges' breakthrough collection? 🕵️‍♂️
 
- That a lot of models are actually escorts or former escorts (Natalia Vodianova included) and that there are now easily a thousand micro copies of Epstein's 'business model' masked as 'model lounge' or whatnot where it's basically ig-friendly spots where not so good-looking men 40 and up can find someone to impress/groom/sponsor/exploit in that order.
- That the Kremlin partially funded the rise of Demna, Gosha and all that.
- That Naomi Campbell is invited everywhere not because she's that great but because she knows too much haha
 
^ delete delete delete! 🤭
 
MulletProof said:
^ it's way too late now! lol, living by the Doutzen sword over here and when blueorchid asks for absurdity, I deliver. 🥡
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If you don't like this while typing out your conspiracy, it's not worth posting!! 😇

 
blueorchid said:
Inspired by absurd stretches of logic claiming that Zara's campaign is somehow a reference to Gaza....

www.thecut.com

Zara’s New Campaign Is Under Fire for Parallels to Gaza Crisis

Activists call for a boycott of the brand after images from the retailer show mannequins wrapped in shrouds and models standing among rubble.
www.thecut.com www.thecut.com
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except I don't think the Gaza connection is actually an "absurd stretch of logic" considering this was what their head womenswear designer( who is still in that position as of December 2023) said in 2021, my conspiracy theory is that even if the campaign was shot in September as claimed the choice to put it out now was deliberate and Zara is either lying or taking advantage of plausible deniability.

Someone thought they were being very clever, too bad for them that people aren't fooled.

CNN, 16 June 2021
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Fashion giant Zara is under fire after its head women’s designer, Vanessa Perilman, sent inflammatory messages to Palestinian model Qaher Harhash on Instagram.

Harhash posts pro-Palestinian content on his Instagram account and it appears Perilman responded to a post via direct message last week.


“Maybe if your people were educated then they wouldn’t blow up the hospitals and schools that Israel helped to pay for in Gaza,” a screenshot of Perilman’s message to Harhash reads. “Israelis don’t teach children to hate nor throw stones at soldiers as your people do.”
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MulletProof said:
- That a lot of models are actually escorts or former escorts (Natalia Vodianova included) and that there are now easily a thousand micro copies of Epstein's 'business model' masked as 'model lounge' or whatnot where it's basically ig-friendly spots where not so good-looking men 40 and up can find someone to impress/groom/sponsor/exploit in that order.
- That the Kremlin partially funded the rise of Demna, Gosha and all that.
- That Naomi Campbell is invited everywhere not because she's that great but because she knows too much haha
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I can actually believe that first one considering Natalia herself said her first agency was effectively trying to pimp out models by sending them to nightclubs with older men and that she quit once she realised, I don't believe that she personally was an escort but the modelling agency business setup is absolutely the kind of thing that lends itself to that kind of exploitation - very young girls being transported to foreign countries and trapped into a pile of debt that they have to pay off? And this is legal even when they're underage?
The kremlin one is a great conspiracy theory, just what I came to this thread for
As for Naomi..... I absolutely can believe that one too! though in her case she also didn't have the inevitable years/decades away from the industry/spotlight that the other models of her generation did while they were raising young children, the motherhood penalty spares no one, not even supermodels.
 
Drusilla_ said:
and that she quit once she realised, .
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I mean, sort of, isn't that in 1999? and wasn't she technically sent to a club to meet older men in February 2001, pregnant by one of them by March, married in November and giving birth in December? I don't think she's to blame at all, I think it's a whole.. network, of older, predatory men, which seems to be packaged in all kinds of clever ways nowadays..

Martin Kragh's Kremlin studies (centered on Sweden) are fascinating.. lots of trimming, filtering in words on popular culture, media, etc., and that's just Sweden (which I don't imagine being their absolute biggest investment).

Isn't there another Epstein list coming out in court next month? that will probably revive some of the conversation around Naomi...
 
MulletProof said:
I mean, sort of, isn't that in 1999? and wasn't she technically sent to a club to meet older men in February 2001, pregnant by one of them by March, married in November and giving birth in December? I don't think she's to blame at all, I think it's a whole.. network, of older, predatory men, which seems to be packaged in all kinds of clever ways nowadays..

Martin Kragh's Kremlin studies (centered on Sweden) are fascinating.. lots of trimming, filtering in words on popular culture, media, etc., and that's just Sweden (which I don't imagine being their absolute biggest investment).

Isn't there another Epstein list coming out in court next month? that will probably revive some of the conversation around Naomi...
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I remember a print interview of Natalia's from not that long ago (post-Antoine for sure) where she mentioned her first agency in Paris sending her and other models to clubs with "older" men (and I fully realise that her definition of "older" could differ from ours, she seemed to mean men of at least 40+) and that she ditched that agency within a week since Viva had already offered her the chance to switch. While she was at Viva, the official story is that she met Justin Portman at a dinner, which also sounds sketch considering her age at the time (19) and that we all know what kind of things can be a front for exploitative men to meet very young women and girls.
I think the truth is somewhere in between 'there was absolutely nothing shady going on' and 'she was an escort', especially considering the circumstances of her early life. I mean, Portman did marry her and I think being in a long-term relationship/marriage with someone well-connected to high society afforded her some degree of protection as she continued to work. I'm with you on only blaming the men involved and the agency enablers, nothing but respect for Natalia herself - the level of tenacity it would have taken to get from where she started to where she got, especially in the 00s when models were held to impossible body standards, is more than anyone should be called on to have.
 
MulletProof said:
Martin Kragh's Kremlin studies (centered on Sweden) are fascinating.. lots of trimming, filtering in words on popular culture, media, etc., and that's just Sweden (which I don't imagine being their absolute biggest investment).
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about Gosha, Demna & co., I can absolutely believe it, even if it was indirect funding and leaning on journalists to give them positive press and coverage etc. "Soft power" is a major asset to have, look at South Korea - as little as a decade ago their tv shows were things only (mostly) middle-aged ladies on niche websites knew about, now the most-watched show in the world is Korean and Netflix is pumping billions into Korean-language content (5x up from the $500 million it spent in 2019), k-beauty is practically a cosmetics/skincare category in its own right, Korean food is the new cuisine to take over fine dining and being sold in supermarkets too, kpop has effectively taken over the kids who would have been indie music fans 15 years ago and (relevant to TFS) every high-end fashion brand worth its salt must have a Korean celeb ambassador, some of whose faces go on adverts across the globe....all a very good return on investment from the South Korean government starting to market their tv shows to SouthEast Asian countries 30 years ago, I must say! And that was all out in the open. I can imagine the Kremlin could be sneaky and not want to be obvious about any kind of state support for that kind of thing because, unlike the Koreans, they were trying to do a thing with fashion and being pushed-by-totalitarian-government immediately discredits things in that field.

throwback conspiracy theory here - I also think the Kremlin/Russian political establishment was 100 percent behind the bigging up of all those "Russian street style" oligarch wives who kept popping up from 2009-2015 - you know, Elena P*rminova, Mir*slava Duma, Uly*na Serg*nko etc, you can picture that crowd, they were basically trying to change the narrative of rich Russian women just being tacky overdone logo-obsessed people but something about the way they dressed and were publicised felt very like it came out of a manual. Obviously fashion media in that era was bound to gas up anyone rich enough to actually afford the clothes but the rich husbands (to a woman, all married into some kind of asset exploiter class), the whole 'pack' way they moved and the way the fashion establishment seemed to accept them until suddenly they didn't, does smell very state-sponsored to me.
 
Watch Yves posthumously show up on the “Epstein list” everyone’s in a tizzy about at the moment 🤭
 
^ Is he?!?! I’ve been trying to muster enough energy to open the files!
 
I’m kidding, I’ve no idea if he has any connection to Epstein specifically. He certainly has a connection with Matzneff, though, and others.
 
Is it more Yves himself or Pierre, though 🤔🍿💀

I can only imagine what skeletons lurked in Pierre’s closet.
 
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