*gucci group drama/ mcQueen turns down YSL offer

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  1. Lena

    Lena etre soi-meme

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    ditto :flower:
     
  2. ebowleg

    ebowleg New Member

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    I know that I may be getting ahead of ourselves here by saying that Narciso won't suit Gucci very well, but when you look at what he stands for, he just doesn't cut it. He is about taking a more minimal approach to things. Yes, his clothes are sexy, but they don't have that certain mystery that Gucci has. I'm not saying that he shouldn't be given the chance, I'm just saying that I don't think Gucci is ready for Narciso.
     
  3. Salvatore

    Salvatore Wanderlust

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    I could be wrong but Narciso does not seem daring and exciting enough to be at Gucci. Tom Ford is highly creative and made works of art. I just don't see Narciso doing that because by the looks of his clothes, he lacks some imagination. :huh:
     
  4. Lena

    Lena etre soi-meme

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    :blink: new today from VogueUK

    :sick: I think she could be a disaster for Gucci..
    still, will all the money they are wasting on her,
    it's not a bad idea to make her pay back Gucci Group
    by taking over Tom's chair for Gucci for .. :innocent: free :rofl: :rofl:
     
  5. Acid

    Acid yes

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    yup apparently stella has bagged the job

    which seems somehow STRANGE.......seing as 60% of gucci's revenue's are from LEATHER GOODS
    and there is miss stella who is ANTI LEATHER :wacko:

    she's not a good designer.........just as liz jagger said 'its not enough just to rehash trousers'
     
  6. ignitioned32

    ignitioned32 Mannikin

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    I agree with both of you guys! :flower: Though what if she can do what she did for Chloe for Gucci? Maybe she's good designing for other houses but not for her own label. :wacko:
     
  7. tiffany

    tiffany Active Member

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    narciso could be good for gucci - but I'd hate to see stella do it, I don't like her designs at all

    On another note, I'm thrilled about mcqueen for ysl :flower:
     
  8. wyatt.

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    i think mcqueen would be good for ysl.

    but i don't think narciso rodriguez would fit at gucci.
    i wouldn't say narciso is boring, his stuff is just minimal and simple, which is good, but tom ford is made gucci into more of an...i don't want to say edgy...but i guess it works. ford is more random and experimental where with rodriguez you can almost expect it.

    they are both great designers but i don't think rodriguez would cut it for gucci. i like stella mccartney for gucci.
     
  9. ignitioned32

    ignitioned32 Mannikin

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    There was a topic similar to this in another forum with a person who posted "I wouldn't be thrilled with seeing McQueen at YSL because the couture is gone" and I partially agree.

    I mean we've pretty much seen what McQueen can do, which is excellent, and just doing RTW at YSL can be quite boring. I wanna see him do couture that's what will make it exciting. Just doing RTW may not be worth it for McQueen, IMO. :ermm: He rather should concentrate on his label.
     
  10. labeladdict

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    If there must be someone else....Rodriguez for Gucci :rolleyes: not McCartney :yuk: Sorry...my opinion.
     
  11. stylegurrl

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    Regarding Stella McC for Gucci, I think the San Francisco Examiner summed up my feelings quite well:

    A fashion no-no?
    Have those fools at Gucci learned nothing? After losing millions on designer Stella McCartney's signature label, they're reportedly considering making her Gucci's creative director. Tom Ford recently resigned and now fashion insiders say Gucci execs think McCartney's the only one who can fill Tom's shoes.

    :huh:
     
  12. Lena

    Lena etre soi-meme

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    :rofl: so correct, thanks for sharing stylegurrl :flower:

    (what if they plan to make her pay out her debt in Gucci Group by working for free as Gucci's new artistic director? that could save them some money... my beautiful laundrette :innocent: )
     
  13. ultramarine

    ultramarine chaos reigns

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    A) If I recall correctly -surprise, surprise!- Stella's clothing line reported a significant increase on their last quarter
    B) I love McQueen .. but after what happened at Givenchy, well ... I dunno!
     
  14. kit

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    B) I have a gut reaction that we should wait until the actual appointments are announced !!!

    Surely Francois Pinault , Serge Weinberg et al are not SO stupid as to put these two highly successful labels into jeapordy by assigning designers who do not seem to be ' cutting it ' ? If they are the ruthless businessmen that they make themselves out to be , eg ousting FORD and DE SOLE , then they MUST have an eye on ' the bottom line ' and Stella's bottom line hardly gives one cause for supreme confidence .

    I think a real surprise might be ' in store ' , imho .

    Regards KIT :innocent: :innocent: :innocent: :innocent:
     
  15. Lena

    Lena etre soi-meme

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    It was Ford's & De Sole's decision to leave Gucci Group, they were certainly not 'dropped' by Pinault :wink:

    and yes, even though i do agree there may be a surprise at the end, it doesnt hurt to follow the story by posting all latest developements on this story. :flower:
     
  16. ignitioned32

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    :rofl: so correct, thanks for sharing stylegurrl :flower:

    (what if they plan to make her pay out her debt in Gucci Group by working for free as Gucci's new artistic director? that could save them some money... my beautiful laundrette :innocent: ) [/b][/quote]
    :lol:

    I absoluely agree guys! :flower:
     
  17. kit

    kit New Member

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    AGREED ABSOLUTELY , LENA :flower:

    But didn't Pinault and Weinberg leave Ford and de Sole no option when their integrity , both financial and artistic , was compromised ?

    Nobody is more interested in what is to happen than myself !
    Keep the speculation going say I !!!

    I only hope it's NOT Stella for Gucci !!! :yuk:

    Regards KIT :innocent: :innocent: :innocent: :innocent:
     
  18. Lena

    Lena etre soi-meme

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    i think Ford's - DeSole problems with Pinault started a long time ago,
    so it seems not to be based on creative/financial issues
    everyone knew that they will depart Gucci as soon as the company turned to Pinault hands, not exactly sure about the true reasons behind the bad blood though :ninja:
     
  19. kit

    kit New Member

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    HI LENA :flower:

    From what I gather from the press , British , French , American etc. , both financial and otherwise , deSole and Ford wanted comlete and utter managerial and artistic freedom , as they had had since before the PPR ' takeover ' , and the refusal of Pinault and Weinberg to continue with this arrangement after the full takeover in April led to an ' impasse ' only resolved by deSole and Ford walking away .

    If PPR do make utterly stupid decisions like putting Stella McCartney as designer into Gucci ( and the Lord knows WHO they would put into YSL if the Gucci decision is par for the course ) , then PPR only has itself to blame if it falls behind LVMH in the luxury brand stakes !!!

    Yours in anticipation !!! KIT :innocent: :innocent: :innocent: :innocent:
     
  20. mikeijames

    mikeijames no tom ford, no thanks.

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    (emphasis mine)

    Snippet from Cindy Adams column in today's New York Post.
     

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