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Harper’s Bazaar China August 2019 #1 : Rihanna by Chen Man

No. This has nothing to do with it being Rihanna. She was invited to appear on this cover of a Chinese publication and styled by an all-Asian / Chinese team. This isn't cultural appropriation because she isn't using someone else's culture for profit; she was literally ASKED to participate in said culture by members of that community.
I’m not one of those who are outraged by those kind of things.
As long as it is done with respect and taste, it’s great. The outrage usually comes from IG but people loves Rihanna. I do too and no matter what she does, people love it.
The majority of the cultural appropriation outrage comes from assumptions about things that people on social media have no clue about so there’s not any issue here.
 
No. This has nothing to do with it being Rihanna. She was invited to appear on this cover of a Chinese publication and styled by an all-Asian / Chinese team. This isn't cultural appropriation because she isn't using someone else's culture for profit; she was literally ASKED to participate in said culture by members of that community.
No one is saying that this is *in fact* cultural appropriation but that Rihanna gets a pass. I know it isn't. However, these same facts around another celebrity would be enough to get them royally dragged. (For example Gigi Hadid getting dragged for being on the cover of Vogue Arabia when she happens to be half Arab and also happened to be the choice of the Arab editor.) That's just part of "cancel" and "call out" culture these days - some celebs getting dragged for things others get a pass for.
 
This is a very interesting read. To no one's surprise, it's mostly Westerners who are crying "cultural appropriation".

Rihanna's Latest Cover Provoked Cries of Cultural Appropriation, but Chinese Netizens Disagree

SHANGHAI, China — On July 9, Harper’s Bazaar China unveiled images from its August cover shoot featuring Rihanna.

The cover likely served a wider purpose. On July 4, Fenty Beauty’s Weibo account made its first greeting to Chinese beauty fans, spurring rumours of a local launch — its products are currently available in Hong Kong, but haven’t yet hit the mainland. When the Harper’s Bazaar China cover was unveiled, the account reposted one of the images alongside the caption “It’s your turn to shine,” but the post has since been deleted.

If the purpose of the shoot was to get people talking about Rihanna's beauty brand before it drops in China, it most definitely is working.

Shot by esteemed local photographer Chen Man, the Barbadian singer, actress and recent addition to the LVMH family sported couture gowns by Iris Van Herpen and Jean Paul Gaultier. But commentators on Twitter — a site only accessible in China via VPN — paid more attention to her elaborate hair, makeup and props (such as a Chinese hand fan and hand-painted screen), and were quick to cry cultural appropriation.

In such critiques, parallels were drawn between the cover shoot and recent backlash against Kim Kardashian’s shapewear line, formerly named Kimono . But others were quick to point out that Rihanna’s shoot, unlike Kardashian’s attempted brand name, was produced by a Chinese team, and therefore involved collaborations with local creatives and acknowledgment of their inclusion on social media.

Little did they know that in China, netizens were having a completely different conversation.

“I’ve always said that she could pull anything off,” wrote top Chinese blogger Ye Si, better known as Gogoboi, on social media platform Weibo. “I didn’t expect that she would go down the Tang Dynasty route, and look sexy yet classy and graceful in a diamond necklace that probably weighs 10 tons. That’s beauty.”

Many other Chinese commentators agreed, refuting allegations of wrongdoing. “Why would we call this cultural appropriation?” asked user @LiwenqianLetitia. “I think that Riri using her influence to highlight Chinese culture is a great thing.”

Separate discussions revolved around whether Chinese culture was being depicted at all. In one camp, users found it hard to ignore the shoot’s references to Chinese culture and aesthetics. In another, users were confused by allegations of cultural appropriation altogether, or found the shoot to be more “pan Asian” than Chinese. But the general sentiment, unlike the backlash on Twitter and Instagram, was of appreciation, or at worst, speculation, rather than offence.

In fact, Chinese publications and netizens have taken it upon themselves to revive Rihanna’s little known local moniker. As far back as 2011, Chinese netizens bestowed Rihanna with the nickname “Queen of Shandong” (Shandong tianhou), referring to the province in Eastern China, after her songs were phonetically translated using references of Chinese cities and cultural icons. Her song “We Found Love” was coined “Weifang de ai,” citing the Chinese city of Weifang. “Princess of China” was called “Huan zhu ge ge,” the name of local television series My Fair Princess.

Rihanna's Chinese-infused nickname really stuck after the star’s 2015 Met Gala appearance, when she wore a gown designed by Beijing-based couturier Guo Pei on the red carpet. The sweeping, 25kg empress cape — incessantly memed for its resemblance an omelette — went viral.

Where Rihanna has effectively been embraced by Chinese fans as one of their own, what many called orientalist in the West was seen as a stylistic ‘homecoming’ — one that many netizens had no issue with. “Rihanna added yet another Chinese cover to her arsenal... our Queen of Shandong strikes again with this masterpiece,” praised media account @Zhuixinggou.

It is perhaps telling that many of those most critical of the shoot live outside China while many of those most appreciative live in China. Consequently, some observers are drawing the conclusion that Chinese in China have different perceptions of cultural appropriation and appreciation than the Chinese or wider Asian diaspora in the West.

But according to Elisa Harca, co-founder and Asia chief executive of Shanghai-based digital marketing agency Red Ant, the Chinese response to Rihanna’s cover reveals a more nuanced view of debate around the distinction between cultural appropriation and appreciation. “It’s not that they care less [about it]. It’s more about [whether it’s] done with taste or not. [And] this shoot is,” Harca says.

“For Chinese people they are proud of their [country] and like to see the west embrace it, but in a tasteful and chic way,” she adds. “If the appreciation has style and has an element of understanding for where Chinese culture currently is, it’s deemed interesting, relevant and appealing, not insensitive.”

Additional reporting by Queennie Yang
businessoffashion.com
 
No one is saying that this is *in fact* cultural appropriation but that Rihanna gets a pass. I know it isn't. However, these same facts around another celebrity would be enough to get them royally dragged. (For example Gigi Hadid getting dragged for being on the cover of Vogue Arabia when she happens to be half Arab and also happened to be the choice of the Arab editor.) That's just part of "cancel" and "call out" culture these days - some celebs getting dragged for things others get a pass for.

I hear you and I see your point. I'm no expert tho I wonder if perhaps it is different when it comes to a white celebrity because of the history of idealizing white beauty over a native country's beauty.
 
I honestly wonder how, for example, someone like John Galliano working for Dior and doing all those chinese or japanese inspired collections would've worked in today's fashion climate. He probably would've been dragged to hell and back on social media, the popular models as well, and not even mentioning the use of fur, oh dear.

It's a good thing his good stuff was done at a time where things like this didn't happen on a grand scale.
 
I honestly wonder how, for example, someone like John Galliano working for Dior and doing all those chinese or japanese inspired collections would've worked in today's fashion climate. He probably would've been dragged to hell and back on social media, the popular models as well, and not even mentioning the use of fur, oh dear.

It's a good thing his good stuff was done at a time where things like this didn't happen on a grand scale.

I’m guessing yes, he would have. Especially since mode casting back then was almost exclusively all white models with only 1 or 2 non-white models.
 
High fashion needs multicultural fusion, more than ever now. Maybe not by Chen Man LOL …But it absolutely needs to stop kowtowing to ignorant, fascist children and remember to inspire with laser-sharp conviction again.

I want to see Black models styled in Asian designs; Asian models styled in Black designs; Brown models styled in Aboriginal designs; White models styled in ME design. I want to see designers not being afraid to cast an all-White cast for a show— only to cast mostly Asian/Brown models for their next show. There should never be boundaries in HF. Ever.

Cultural-Appropriation accusers are the contributors of a new apartheid. GTHO. These people have poisoned the creativity, imagination and individuality of HF for us freaks, weirdos and non-conformist, turning it into a bland, generic, homogenized. conservative wasteland of mid-range department store basics. Socialism has no place in HF. HF needs to challenge, provoke, offend and take risks. I'm glad to see the Chinese and Rianna pissing these people off.
 
Cultural appropriation is a problem when it borders on plagiarism. When someone profits off ideas without giving proper credit to where those ideas came from.

Not... girl wears clothes of a different culture...
 
Can somebody post the whole editorial? (I miss the days when people would scan the stories instead of the screen grabs from their ipad editions because the layouts and fonts and sizes change)
 

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