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How Ralph Lauren Polo became one of the most shoplifted labels in history
For some New Yorkers in the 80s, one fashion label was coveted more than any other: the aspirational Polo
Morwenna Ferrier/guardiannews

Stolen Polo clothing is easy to spot. There will be a small, square hole where the tag was ripped out, or an ink spatter from the burst tag. Or it will have been pressed and put in a protective plastic sleeve by someone who, from the early eighties to the early noughties, shoplifted the label in one of the most elaborate stealing sprees in history.

Brooklyn in the 1980s was a very different place, style-wise, to the neo-bohemia it is now. It was rougher and hip-hop dictated the mood. In 1984, everyone wanted Lee jeans – so people stole them. In 1985, primary colours crept in via Benetton and Lacoste, and by 1986 it was sportswear brands such as Nike and Fila that were being worn alongside Gucci. But Polo was the ultimate label. There were two Brooklyn-based shoplifting crews: the United Shoplifters Association and Ralphie’s Kids (Ralph Lauren’s Kids). They would congregate on Rockaway Avenue on the 3 train and Utica Avenue 4 station, respectively, and both terrorised Manhattan department stores, such as Barneys and Bloomingdales. The two gangs also routinely robbed one another but in 1988, a chance meeting in Times Square in which they decided to pose together for a photograph led them to join forces and form the Lo Life crew.

Growing up in Brownsville, one of Brooklyn’s rougher districts, Thirstin Howl III, one of the original Lo Lifers, filled his days listening to hip-hop, drinking beer, shoplifting and spray-painting. “We – my friends and I – all came from dysfunctional households. I grew up on a housing project. Our parents were addicts. We had no money, no jobs. Our model was we would pay for nothing.” At the start, they “boosted” – shoplifted – food, alcohol and spray-paint. They would go into McDonald’s, jump over the counter and steal fries – “You know, just help ourselves.” Necessities became luxuries, particularly clothes.

“This was around the time hip-hop was starting to intersect with fashion,” explains Tom Gould, a New Zealand-based photographer who started researching the crew in 2010. “Music was the vehicle.” Rappers such as Raekwon and Grand Puba were becoming names and, in turn, wearing brands. Howl had been taking polaroids, but after meeting Gould in New York through Meyhem Lauren in 2009, they came up with the idea of a book about the socioeconomic relationship between black New Yorkers and the Polo label.“People got the misconception that we were only known for Polo,” says Howl. “We actually touched everything. But it’s true – Polo stood out and became the brand with the biggest social status. It had a rich feel. And, yeah, they didn’t sell in the ghetto.”The Lo Life crew viewed themselves as would-be Robin Hoods – except they kept the goods. The whole movement was deeply competitive – “People would rob your house. People would shoot you for the shirts,” says Howl.

he biggest logos became a semaphore for social status: the cross flag, the crown. The skiier jacket became the most sought-after Polo piece. It accrued a nickname – the suicide jacket – partly because of the nature of off-piste skiing but also because people would kill for it. “I was shot and stabbed,” explains Thirstin. “We all were.”Polo was, and still is, aspirational, associated with white middle-class educated preppy America. Told they couldn’t afford this symbol of the American dream, the Lo Life crew stole it, subverting the conversation and challenging the status quo on two levels; not only did they steal what they couldn’t afford, but they chose a label they weren’t supposed to wear even if they could. “We are divided by class and race and always will be,” says Howl. “We could [look like we] lived that extravagant life but our homes had no furniture. We had no intention of starting a movement. We were just living our life.”
 
It reads like a script idea for The Warriors 2 :lol:
it reads like it was written by a high schooler. Spatter when they meant splatter. Model when they meant motto. and I'm pretty sure they mean to write metaphor instead of semaphore.


I'm not sure what the point of the article was. We know why people shoplift. Am I supposed to feel sorry for Howl and his friends now that he presented his self righteous (and ultimately flawed) reasons for doing so? They're thugs who disregarded the hard work of others to fulfill their narrow sense of instant gratification in life.
 
I think the phenomenon is culturally significant. The book can be purchased here


^Description of the book (burymewiththeloon):

During the late-’80s, two groups of teenagers from neighboring areas of Brooklyn came together to form a boosting crew with a common goal — accumulate as much Polo Ralph Lauren as possible, by any means possible.​
Known as the Lo Lifes, they dressed themselves in the finest garments stolen from every upper-class department store in the tri-state area, while living a reality that was the complete opposite of what Ralph Lauren represented.​
To the authorities the Lo Lifes were criminals, but to themselves and people on the streets, their actions signified something else. They aspired to be something greater, and empowered themselves by taking something that wasn’t meant for them and making it their own.
For the past five years Lo Life founder Thirstin Howl the 3rd and photographer Tom Gould have been documenting this culture. Interviews, archival pictures, and recent portraits of key players make up the first-ever book recounting how a group of kids in Brooklyn went on to influence mainstream rap stars and birth a movement of boosters and collectors of Polo worldwide


 
The very best thing about this article is his name, Thirstin Howl III. That is absolutely priceless :heart:
 
it reads like it was written by a high schooler. Spatter when they meant splatter. Model when they meant motto. and I'm pretty sure they mean to write metaphor instead of semaphore.


I'm not sure what the point of the article was. We know why people shoplift. Am I supposed to feel sorry for Howl and his friends now that he presented his self righteous (and ultimately flawed) reasons for doing so? They're thugs who disregarded the hard work of others to fulfill their narrow sense of instant gratification in life.

Splatter and spatter can essentially be used interchangeably. "Model" was part of a quote from someone in the article so it isn't necessarily a mistake on the writer's part. It could also very well be that the individual interviewed meant that the (parental) model he and his friends had growing up was one that involved not paying for things. "Semaphore" can also be used to mean a visual signal--a signifier of social status as the author says. So she is correct in using it that way. The writer is a professional. She knows how to do her job ;)

Generally I don't think the piece is trying to get the reader to feel sorry for shoplifters. But it's certainly worth examining the social factors at play. There's the through-line of class and economics in the article.
 
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Splatter and spatter can essentially be used interchangeably. "Model" was part of a quote from someone in the article so it isn't necessarily a mistake on the writer's part. It could also very well be that the individual interviewed meant that the (parental) model he and his friends had growing up was one that involved not paying for things. "Semaphore" can also be used to mean a visual signal--a signifier of social status as the author says. So she is correct in using it that way. The writer is a professional. She knows how to do her job ;)

Generally I don't think the piece is trying to get the reader to feel sorry for shoplifters. But it's certainly worth examining the social factors at play. There's the through-line of class and economics in the article.
Maybe. But i'm just not sure they're interchangeable, though. What happens with ink in those security tags is a splatter, it's onomatopoeic. Spatter is more like when you flick a paint brush. I've rarely seen spatter used in the way the author is trying to use it. But I do see what you mean with the other "corrections" I made. I guess I'm reading it too literally.
 
:rofl::rofl::rofl:

How the Lo Lifes Feel About Ralph Lauren Collaborating With Palace

Most of them are confused and frustrated.


By Aria Hughes on October 30, 2018

The Lo Lifes feel robbed.

The Brooklyn crew that used to steal, wear and sell Ralph Lauren in the Eighties is frustrated that the iconic American brand is working on a collection with Palace instead of them.

According to Willie Esco, who founded the Lo Life brand in 2016, which sells apparel online inspired by Ralph Lauren’s most iconic pieces, someone from Palace’s team reached out to get a blessing from members of the group. But most of the Lo Lifes, who skew older, weren’t familiar with Palace when it announced earlier this month via billboards in Tokyo and Instagram posts that it would be collaborating with the brand they’ve collected, the designer they’ve worshiped and the clothes they’ve helped popularize in urban communities for more than 30 years.

“Look at what Gucci did with Dapper Dan. Ralph should have did [sic] something like that with the Lo Lifes,” said Esco, referring to Gucci-backed efforts to reopen Daniel Day’s Harlem store and atelier, which shut down in 1992. “I wasn’t shocked by the decision. It will generate great sales, but it feels like a money grab from both sides and dilutes what they are all about.”

A year and a half ago, WWD explored how younger consumers were discovering Ralph Lauren — many of them were drawn to the vintage pieces worn by the Lo Lifes, which is now more like a fraternity that hosts barbecues and clothing drives throughout the year.

At the time, the company didn’t publicly acknowledge the subculture or embrace these vintage items, but fast forward and Ralph Lauren has leaned into its heritage by rereleasing retro designs, introducing an app to help collectors keep up with drops, and by partnering with the British skate brand Palace that was founded by Lev Tanju in 2009. The Palace and Ralph Lauren collaboration launches in Europe and North America on Nov. 9 and the following day in Japan and South Korea.

Stephen Corbie, who goes by Prance-Lo and is a 47-year-old original member of the Lo Lifes, has been collecting Ralph Lauren since he was a teen. Corbie said he would have probably understood the collaboration more if it was with Supreme, a brand steeped in New York culture, but questions Palace’s connection with Ralph Lauren.

“What’s their real history? What collectors do they really have in London that really show off that Americana style of dress the way we do? He has our literature in his office that he basically uses as his CliffsNotes,” Corbie said. “I don’t think the founder being a fan of Ralph Lauren is a good enough story because the proof is in the pudding. Has he ever tried to knock on his door or come from England and say ‘I gotta meet this man?’ We are in his stores trying to see him. When he opens a coffee shop, we come out to see him and we don’t even drink coffee.”

Robert Gordon is a 27-year-old Ralph Lauren enthusiast — he’s not a Lo Life — who has been collecting pieces since 2004. He never expected Ralph Lauren to collaborate with a streetwear brand, but with the success of the retro rereleases over the past few years, he understands the decision.

“There is an opportunity for this to be dope and I’m not going to discount that. The idea of a Ralph Lauren skateboard is exciting and it would be cool to have that, but I understand why many purists are vehemently against it,” Gordon said. “I think it was a huge missed opportunity for them to not work with the Lo Lifes for the 50th anniversary. They’ve introduced some of those pieces to the world and given them a cultural relevance that wouldn’t have existed without them.”

Christian Loja, 38, isn’t a Lo Life member, but he is a collector who was pleasantly surprised by the partnership. He was also recently featured on the new Polo app.

“I think it’s cool that a young brand can collaborate with Ralph Lauren. It’s a cool concept, but for me it’s all about design. If it looks good, I will applaud it,” Loja said. “The majority of Ralph Lauren collectors aren’t skateboarders. We aren’t avid climbers or skiers either, but that product works because of the design. This partnership with Palace could very well be the same type of thing.”

Will Wagner, a Polo collector who owns DeepCover, a vintage shop in New York’s Lower East Side, said kids wearing Supreme have started coming into his shop asking for Ralph Lauren, and the Polo pieces are still selling well. He was surprised the brand worked with Palace instead of Supreme but understood the decision.

“Supreme has worked with so many people at this point whether it was Louis Vuitton, Brooks Brothers or Lacoste. Maybe the team at Polo thought that was too typical so [they] went with another popular brand that reaches the same demographic but isn’t doing as many collaborations,” said Wagner, who is hoping the collection will bring more attention to key pieces from the Polo archives.

Corbie said he and other Lo Life members are still dedicated to the brand and still pushing for a chance to work with Ralph Lauren directly one day.

“I think there’s a stigma because of how our relationships started with him, but we’ve matured. We’ve adapted to society,” Corbie said. “Just give us our salute. That’s all we ever wanted. We will always purchase that man’s items. We feel bad if we go in another direction because we’ve been doing it for so long it feels like we’re cheating on our wives.”

WWD.com
 

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