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Limi Feu F/W 2023.24 Tokyo
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it's smart, well tailored and desireable.
though the overuse of tartan is a bit to much punk cliché for my taste.
though the overuse of tartan is a bit to much punk cliché for my taste.
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It's everything I hate about Yojji.
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Asking out of curiosity, what do you dislike about Yohji's work?
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I think Yohji is AMAZING but he's not perfect.
Sometimes it can be really trashy and tacky, overworked and just cheesy.
I find this to be super cringe, especially the make up and crappy flash photography.
It's like emo fashion student who works at Hot Topic.
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this, for example, is horrendous.
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I had been wondering about her some months ago, good to see her back in action. 
I don't find her or her father's work tacky, that's one thing they never in a million years could be to me, I think she speaks to a certain Japanese clientele that is less scripted and edited, and maybe a bit goofy, and obviously, comparisons are inevitable and Yohji's work always feels.. not necessarily the opposite of edited, he's certainly not spontaneous and does seem to give everything a lot of thought, but he's just more gentle, and you sense poetry and.. love, of different kinds, in his collections/clothes.. it's not absent in Limi's but it does feel subversive for the sake of being subversive at times. I think she fluctuates like Junya Watanabe, sometimes it's just so aggressive that it's a hard pass for me, and then they surprise with something so lovely and tender that you just.. can't complain too much.
Whatever this piece is btw.. gorgeous.
I don't find her or her father's work tacky, that's one thing they never in a million years could be to me, I think she speaks to a certain Japanese clientele that is less scripted and edited, and maybe a bit goofy, and obviously, comparisons are inevitable and Yohji's work always feels.. not necessarily the opposite of edited, he's certainly not spontaneous and does seem to give everything a lot of thought, but he's just more gentle, and you sense poetry and.. love, of different kinds, in his collections/clothes.. it's not absent in Limi's but it does feel subversive for the sake of being subversive at times. I think she fluctuates like Junya Watanabe, sometimes it's just so aggressive that it's a hard pass for me, and then they surprise with something so lovely and tender that you just.. can't complain too much.
Whatever this piece is btw.. gorgeous.
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hate shows intense concern about the object. the soul forced to put on edge. it's like the heat that broils one from behind. you might like hate more than love.
joking aside, she relates to this kind of youth subculture below.
I would not forbid kabuki actors the mie poses.
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joking aside, she relates to this kind of youth subculture below.
I would not forbid kabuki actors the mie poses.
aucfan
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Ouch. I can see why. It's very "Punk cliché".
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limi would appreciate your typing out the enumeration while you are really indifferent.
but, seriously speaking, her label started as a specific line from Y's for bad girls. after some twists and turns (you know what happened), now she makes clothes for those who actually wear them. the clientle is the youngest in YY universe. the role of this line is similar to that of tricot CdG or junya watanabe man pink. so, in this context, punk cliche is the right thing to do. a well-grounded business. without the cliche it would be pointless. the cliche is one of japanese kids' all-time favorites. in the heyday of vivienne westwood, 95% of the sales were from japan. undercover had made money with the cliche locally and then went to paris. the question is not whether punk cliche, but the quality of punk cliche. how to use punk cliche. though it's obvious some of you don't like it here.
if the climate changes in the future, she might have to go to paris again. then I would expect the miracle of creation to take place. instead of the softcore version of limi yamamoto.
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Sure, but CDG does punk in a cool way.
This just isn't cool. I find it to be super cringe.
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err I don’t know, Rei can do punk in a silly way at times and is this really ‘super’ cringe given the context of current fashion and the one provided by runner about the Japanese market? 
Probably some residual personal issue with the Western emo culture that was super obnoxious but moving past these ‘cringey’ elements like the photography and makeup, even that look in post 9 is way better than whatever CDG is doing these days and has surprisingly more ‘timelessness’ potential than the actual, extremely cringe clothing we’re saturated by these days: from the bulls*it eLeGaNcE of The Row to absolute garbage of Y/Project.. this may have annoying photography that its target demographic is actually into but at least the clothes will survive the test of time and certainly the volatile expectations of Western customers because surprise, it’s not considering them..
tfs can be a bit funny sometimes.. I saw a sudden interest and annoyance at Antonio Marras’ work (of all designers) during fashion week. ‘it’s so long!’ ‘it’s so busy!’ yeah… because when you click on a thread, you also want to look at the title of the thread lol. It’s like let’s whip the hell out of the robots of the conglomerates (Demna, Hedi, Antonio, Nicolas) for not producing the right s*it for the sweatshops but also, if someone’s out of that and has a solid clientele they create for, and is not following the rhythm nor the expected format of ultra edited and studied imagery, and she/he don’t show signs of even attempting to compromise the label to appease this more generic market, it’s like ‘now you’re annoying me, too!’. I sometimes wonder if this current, super vanilla era in consumerism could even handle the return of labels like Boudicca, which were great but had a very strong, uncompromising line of work and an aesthetic you couldn’t do much with so you had to think for yourself when looking at presentations and also know yourself enough to not ever harbor a desire for them to adapt, you knew what to expect when looking at their work, because research was required, it wasn’t silly window shopping, and that strengthened a mutual respect between creator and consumer.
Probably some residual personal issue with the Western emo culture that was super obnoxious but moving past these ‘cringey’ elements like the photography and makeup, even that look in post 9 is way better than whatever CDG is doing these days and has surprisingly more ‘timelessness’ potential than the actual, extremely cringe clothing we’re saturated by these days: from the bulls*it eLeGaNcE of The Row to absolute garbage of Y/Project.. this may have annoying photography that its target demographic is actually into but at least the clothes will survive the test of time and certainly the volatile expectations of Western customers because surprise, it’s not considering them..
tfs can be a bit funny sometimes.. I saw a sudden interest and annoyance at Antonio Marras’ work (of all designers) during fashion week. ‘it’s so long!’ ‘it’s so busy!’ yeah… because when you click on a thread, you also want to look at the title of the thread lol. It’s like let’s whip the hell out of the robots of the conglomerates (Demna, Hedi, Antonio, Nicolas) for not producing the right s*it for the sweatshops but also, if someone’s out of that and has a solid clientele they create for, and is not following the rhythm nor the expected format of ultra edited and studied imagery, and she/he don’t show signs of even attempting to compromise the label to appease this more generic market, it’s like ‘now you’re annoying me, too!’. I sometimes wonder if this current, super vanilla era in consumerism could even handle the return of labels like Boudicca, which were great but had a very strong, uncompromising line of work and an aesthetic you couldn’t do much with so you had to think for yourself when looking at presentations and also know yourself enough to not ever harbor a desire for them to adapt, you knew what to expect when looking at their work, because research was required, it wasn’t silly window shopping, and that strengthened a mutual respect between creator and consumer.
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err I don’t know, Rei can do punk in a silly way at times and is this really ‘super’ cringe given the context of current fashion and the one provided by runner about the Japanese market?
Probably some residual personal issue with the Western emo culture that was super obnoxious but moving past these ‘cringey’ elements like the photography and makeup, even that look in post 9 is way better than whatever CDG is doing these days and has surprisingly more ‘timelessness’ potential than the actual, extremely cringe clothing we’re saturated by these days: from the bulls*it eLeGaNcE of The Row to absolute garbage of Y/Project.. this may have annoying photography that its target demographic is actually into but at least the clothes will survive the test of time and certainly the volatile expectations of Western customers because surprise, it’s not considering them..
tfs can be a bit funny sometimes.. I saw a sudden interest and annoyance at Antonio Marras’ work (of all designers) during fashion week. ‘it’s so long!’ ‘it’s so busy!’ yeah… because when you click on a thread, you also want to look at the title of the thread lol. It’s like let’s whip the hell out of the robots of the conglomerates (Demna, Hedi, Antonio, Nicolas) for not producing the right s*it for the sweatshops but also, if someone’s out of that and has a solid clientele they create for, and is not following the rhythm nor the expected format of ultra edited and studied imagery, and she/he don’t show signs of even attempting to compromise the label to appease this more generic market, it’s like ‘now you’re annoying me, too!’. I sometimes wonder if this current, super vanilla era in consumerism could even handle the return of labels like Boudicca, which were great but had a very strong, uncompromising line of work and an aesthetic you couldn’t do much with so you had to think for yourself when looking at presentations and also know yourself enough to not ever harbor a desire for them to adapt, you knew what to expect when looking at their work, because research was required, it wasn’t silly window shopping, and that strengthened a mutual respect between creator and consumer.
Does she have a solid clientele? Didn't this label already close one before?
It's so cheesy, I don't really see this aging as well as you think it will.
CDG is not perfect either but I'd much rather shop there instead of this.
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cool not to be trying to be cool is the current belief younger generations tend to have. they are afraid of failing. they don't want to stumble. they try their best not to stand out in a bad way. so they turn to uniqlo. limi's message here is clear. let's fall splendidly.
although her customers are not the majority (you know it's not like everyone dresses like that), they are the japanese constant.
as yohji himself explained, limi is now there as an introductory label for YY universe.
today I was checking the pieces in the yohji femme shop from corner to corner. the prices are twice what they were ten years ago. the designs can be lighthearted but at once they can be serious. and few basics. the femme line can be rather inaccessible for kids.
I have been fond of clothes for years and am not young. maybe Mutterlein too? for me, cringey-ness is one of the fashion elements that have already become classic. part of negative classicism. the expression is sort of business emo.
if it is so cringe that you had to utter it twice, I guess you are emotional properly so-called. or are able to see the familiar as if it were fresh. then I might need to be roused from anesthesia.
although her customers are not the majority (you know it's not like everyone dresses like that), they are the japanese constant.
as yohji himself explained, limi is now there as an introductory label for YY universe.
today I was checking the pieces in the yohji femme shop from corner to corner. the prices are twice what they were ten years ago. the designs can be lighthearted but at once they can be serious. and few basics. the femme line can be rather inaccessible for kids.
I have been fond of clothes for years and am not young. maybe Mutterlein too? for me, cringey-ness is one of the fashion elements that have already become classic. part of negative classicism. the expression is sort of business emo.
if it is so cringe that you had to utter it twice, I guess you are emotional properly so-called. or are able to see the familiar as if it were fresh. then I might need to be roused from anesthesia.
