Musical Chairs of Designers...

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  1. FadeToBlack

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    What would be your dream Creative Directors at each house? (just a loose discussion of dream sequences)...

    Alber Elbaz - Christian Dior
    I feel like his mix of femininity and his asymmetric cut would be a perfect slant on the Dior aesthetic. One of the problems I know some retailers had in buying his Lanvin was merchandising it, but since Dior is straight to store and they don't do wholesale for the RTW business for womenswear this wouldn't be a problem.

    Nicolas Ghesquiere - Chanel
    He has the right credentials to be at Chanel. Pierre Hardy summed him up perfectly the other day as a national treasure of France and he really is. Mixed with Chanel? I think that's the dream.

    Phoebe Philo - Saint Laurent
    I love Anthony there, but I think she'd really bring out than masculine aesthetic that YSL really empowered during his heyday. I really loved how Stefano did this when he was there but his was very chic, I feel like she'd give a modern take on it.

    Anyone - Gucci
    Can we please get rid of Alessandro!!! The brand will eventually get rid of his tracksuits and heinous aesthetic that is positively headache inducing and nauseating.
     
  2. helmutnotdead

    helmutnotdead Well-Known Member

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    Yay! Finally something interesting.

    Martin Margiela - Comme des Garcons.
    Helmut Lang - Helmut Lang.
    Chitose Abe - Fendi.
    Consuelo Castiglioni - Céline.
    Miguel Adrover -Marni.
    Phoebe Philo - Martin Margiela.
    Alber Elbaz - Chanel.
    JW Anderson - Prada.
    Jun Takahashi - Loewe.
    Marc Jacobs - Louis Vuitton.
    Nicolas Ghesquiere - Balenciaga.
     
  3. Lola701

    Lola701 Well-Known Member

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    I love the idea of Alber for Dior and Nicolas for Chanel.
    Nicolas has IMO everything perfect to be the designer of Chanel. Yes, his Vuitton is a bit underwhelming but we saw what he was capable of with an heritage brand.
    At Chanel, with Couture, he can really experiment as price is not an issue there and the Weirthemers seems to care about the clothes and not just selling bags like.

    Riccardo Tisci - Saint Laurent
    I think he could be perfect for Saint Laurent. He can do flou and tailoring. He knows one thing or two about Couture and sex. YSL can be tricky and i think that he can work wonderfully with the heritage. And Pierre Bergé liked him.

    Henry Holland - Moschino
    He is a designer and what i miss in Scott's work is the design aspect. His fashion is as serious as it is fun. I really love what he does and more than anyone else, he has the potential to be a Hit at Moschino.

    Marc Jacobs - MiuMiu
    Considering how a mess MiuMiu is now and how much of a fan MJ is of Miuccia, i think he can do wonderful things at MiuMiu and Miuccia could focus on Prada. And people actually buys MiuMiu clothes...

    Ronald Van Der Kemp - Balmain
    He is my favorite and i love how chaotic his stuff is. He can do wonderful things at Balmain considering his Couture knowledge.

    Giles Deacon - Alexander McQueen (womenswear)
    He is a story teller and his work will have more depth than everything we are seeing at the house now.

    Lutz Huelle - Balenciaga
    He is just a good designer and considering how a glorified rip-off of Margiela everything seems to be lately, what's better than someone who actually contributed to the actual Margiela aesthetic? And the guy can deliver beautiful clothes!

    Frida Giannini - Ferragamo/Tod's
    She is a star, she attract celebrities, she can deliver good bags and knows about glamour and luxury. The perfect combo!

    Vanessa Seward or Veronique Leroy - Hermes
    At first, i wanted Stefano Pilati at Hermes but, Vanessa Seward is the epitome of "cool" bourgeoisie and her stuff has a lot of charm. I think what she does could work for Hermes because Hermes is about that older clientele but she can deliver some cool dresses and good eveningwear (something that Hermes might explore).
    Veronique Leroy is very talented and inventive and her low-key profile works wonderfully with Hermes.

    Jun Takahashi - Margiela or Balenciaga
    He is very talented and versatile and i think he can do wonders there.

    Hedi Slimane - Givenchy
    The name Givenchy for me is big enough for his star power. Plus, i think the heritage of Givenchy, for a designer like him, is much more interesting than Saint Laurent.
     
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    Personally I've always thought Alber is made for Chanel. While that's unlikely to happen anytime soon I think he'd do great at Ungaro. It's a wildcard I know, but comparing some of his work at Lanvin with Ungaro's aesthetic I think it would be a great fit (althought they probably don't have the money to hire him). This is fun, here are some other thoughts I've had:

    Peter Dundas-Azzaro or Gucci
    Christian Lacroix-Schiaparelli
    Mary Katrantzou- Pucci
    Raf Simons- Balenciaga
    Hedi Slimane- Balmain
    Bouchra Jarrar- Vionnet
    Stefano Pilati- Lanvin
    Narciso Rodriguez- Armani or MaxMara
    Haider Ackermann- Vionnet or Poiret
    Peter Copping- Lanvin
    Olivier Theyskens- Dior
    John Galliano- Poiret
    Phoebe Philo- Armani
    Giles Deacon- Mugler
    Johanna Ortiz- Ungaro
    Tomas Maier- Armani
    Vanessa Seward- Chloé
    Ece Ege (of Dice Kayek)-Lanvin
     
  5. dodencebt

    dodencebt Well-Known Member

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    The thought has never crossed my mind but now that I've read it, I think she is the only one who could make Armani relevant after Giorgio's retirement or passing away.
     
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    Yes, yes! Nicolas for Chanel! :wub:
     
  7. Lola701

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    Really?
    For me Philo could alter the spirit of Armani. Armani is undeniably Italian and above all from the north. Beyond the minimalist aesthetic, there’s a certain idea of elegance behind it.

    I could see Armani by Alessandra Facchinetti or Stefano Pilati. One proved her talent at doing Couture, RTW and working with a leather goods company and the other worked for an illustrious French house and above all, his work for Agnona and Zegna Couture was pretty much in the spirit of a house like Armani. Plus, Stefano had an history with Armani..
     
  8. Ken Doll Jenner

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    I'd love to see...

    Chitose Abe at Balenciaga
    Her notion of hybridization would do wonders for a house rooted in experimentation.

    Olivier Theyskens at Dior
    In a fashion era where romance is a rarity, his dark yet glamorous take on such quality will be welcomed with open arms.

    Narciso Rodriguez at Lanvin
    His austerely luxurious, unpretentious design is the kind of minimalism that I'm interested in. The house needs a huge, but somewhat understated revamp (definitely not Alesandro Micehele-level of extreme) after Lapidus' cheap, dept. store-like offerings.

    Haider Ackermann at Gucci
    It'd be an unwise move to either continue or abandon the path paved by Michele. A touch of wit or off-kilter sensibility might still be needed in this house. But it's time to also reclaim Gucci's association with sensualism, which is why someone who knows how to perfectly balance out those two extremes like Haider would be perfect.
     
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    Prada- Stefano Pilati
    Givenchy- Olivier Theyskens
    Dior- Delpozo
    Chanel- Alber Elbaz
    Fendi- Nicolas Ghesquiere
    Oscar De La Renta- John Galliano :blush:
    Louis Vuitton- Marc Jacobs for life please.
    Burberry- Phoebe Philo
    Roberto Cavalli- Anthony Vacarello
    Jil Sander- Raf Simons
    Celine- Victoria Beckaham :evil:
    Calvin Klein- Hedi Silmaine
    Balmain- Christophe Decarnin :cry:
     
  10. Pricciao

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    dodencebt did you remember what ludicrous suggestions we got in the last thread? lol
     
  11. Pricciao

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    Here it is
    The starter is Miuccia Prada for Elie Saab omg
     
  12. Fashionstuff

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    Right! :flower:
    We have same thread once, just for fun, lol.
     
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    Marco Zanini for Nina Ricci AND Emilio Pucci
     
  14. Nymphaea

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    Lemaire back at Hermes
     
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    Sander Lak for Yves Saint Laurent - This guy deserves a more well-known and established house. His magnificent use of color reminds of the great colorist that was YSL.

    Haider Ackermann for Lanvin - I've mentioned this before, his draping can match (or might even be better for some) that of Alber's. We need that sort of aesthetic back in Lanvin.

    Nicholas Ghesquiere for Chanel - I find that this pairing would be genius. He is simply perfect for the job.

    Laura Vassar and Kristopher Brock for Nina Ricci - I think their ultra-feminine look can mesh well with this house's Parisienne sensibilities.

    Stefano Pilati for Armani - Another perfect fit for me. He possesses a rigid elegance that Armani is known for.

    Alber Elbaz for Dior - It's a crime this genius doesn't have a job right now (although I'm glad he's getting some rest). Apart from his drapery, a lot of his collections had some New Look silhouettes which would have been perfect for Dior (Fall 2009 was full of them!).

    Frida Giannini for Hermes - Say what you want about her style, she was undeniably polished and well-trained when it comes to tailoring. Such quality is badly needed for Hermes.
     
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    I picked Phoebe mainly because Armani made his name for slouchy, well tailored but relaxed suiting and work wear for professionals. To me that fits really well with Phoebe's work at Celine.
     
  17. FadeToBlack

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    Frida Giannini needs to make a comeback. What about at Pucci?
     
  18. Nymphaea

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    ^I agree, we need more glamour.
     
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    Odd that everyone wants to get rid of Alessandro, but nobody's mentioning the Demna 'The Hype' Gvasalia? Anyway, I'm happy with the current Gucci.

    Alber at Dior, fine. Fashionista-ta will be happy and the critics will go into verbal diarrhea-mode with praise, but it's a safe mix, imo. The problem I have with Dior is that the house codes has been endlessly rehashed to the point that I really question whether we need yet another attempt. There's simply no way to top Galliano (well, there is, but that's for another thread ;) .)
    I'd like to see Alber at Chanel. It's that rare ability to master day and eveningwear, while not skimping on innovative creativity. Would be a far better choice than NG. I've not liked any of his LV collections.


    Isn't Marc Jacobs technically doing Miu Miu and/or a vague iteration of Prada as we speak? That could be the reason why his clothes don't sell. No need to take it one step further.....

    Frida Giannini doesn't belong anywhere, keep her on the dole!

    Gareth Pugh for Alexander McQueen. Burton was a mistake from the start. She belongs at Temperley, at best. This is actually a house which could do with at least some form of allusion to McQueen's elements. Would be a wake-up call for Pugh, because while I like what he's doing, it's time to try something new. Chalayan could be an option as well. We need him back on the forefront. Another obvious choice would be Iris van Herpen. Could challenge her to focus more on daywear.

    I'm actually surprised that Jil Sander didn't go for Pilati, but Philo would be a better fit.

    Christopher Kane for Vionnet. Kane needs a pairing more on his wavelength. He'll never work at a brand with a rigid direction because that's not what he's about.

    Christopher Bailey - Calvin Klein. Creatively, Bailey's still got much to give. And his CEO savvy will come in handy here.

    Jacquemus - Diane von Furstenberg :lol:
     
  20. YohjiAddict

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    Vionnet is very technical so it would be lovely to see Kane there
    Marc Jacobs at Miu Miu would be a crime, he's work is too theatrical and silly, at it's best Miu Miu was a brand of both considerate extravagance and delicate femeninity. Plus it was rooted in reality and it never felt costumey, it felt chic.
    Gucci in my mind is the exact opposite of what it stand for nowadays. Haider would bring back a sense of adult sophistication.
    Demna Gvasalia is annoying but his work at Balenciaga has definitely caught my eye more than a few times. I can see why he's so succesful.
    Chitose is very one dimensional and her work lacks an aesthetical rigueur that I would like to see next at that house. She would be nice at Fendi, she really knows her way around fur.
    Pheobe has never stood for one thing for too long, the Céline woman she created in 2008 was the total opposite to the one she envisioned for her last collections. A good house for her would be one with a diverse heritage like YSL.
    Jil Sander is such a non-event, boring heritage and a sad little atelier judging by their recent output, even Raf's clothes had a very average tailoring and a somewhat flat silhouette. Philo deserves the best of the best. At best I could see the Proenza guys there since their clothes already look stiff and carboard-like.
    Nina Ricci would be right for Jacquemus, a very femenine brand in need of a broader more modern appeal. I could also see Simone Rocha but it wouldn't be as exciting.
    Virgil should work as a cashier at H&M or something.
    Alber for me feels like someone who already gave his everything to Lanvin and so does NG with Balenciaga. Sorry...
     

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