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Never Mind What's in Them, Bags Are the Fashion (NYT)

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Wrap it up!

Usually you're in a shop
you get what you like-- clothes, a bag, shoes, a wallet..
you pay for it and then the person will sometimes roll it in paper and put it in a bag or box

Do you guys keep these bags and boxes?
I know I save them quite a lot of them, just because they are so pretty.. :o

Feel free to post some of the packages and papers your purchases have come in
Here are two from Louis Vuitton:heart:

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from the same website

Christian Dior

(don't look at the wallet!)

You can see the white envelope is made of this really nice textured shiny stuff.. maybe Tyvek ^_^
 

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& white cards with leather cord
 

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I only keep the dust bag and the cards.

The box for my Olympe was so big I declined it at that store.
 
I only keep the dust bag and the cards.

The box for my Olympe was so big I declined it at that store.
A dust bag? :o Is it a little bag with a cord inside that you pull to close the bag? I hope you take some photos ^_^
 
i'm a dustbag keeper too.
i don't really keep the box unless...it's orange... :p

...although now in the day of ebay...although i'm yet to use it...i've become more conscious of trying to remind myself to keep the box or tag or at least photograph it... as a proof...
 
I keep my NAP boxes and the Yoox boxes. my cat Mac loves the yoox boxes for napping and reclining (the lid if left open has a slight slant to it he loves to lay on),

if I get an unusual bag I will keep it. I have one that is shaped almost like a satchel handbag.

I really appreciate when a retailer or designer puts the extra effort into the packaging. it shows a respect for their own product and for the consumer too.
 
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NAP sends great quality boxes. I love to keep dustbags as well, they are so handy for traveling!
 
I'm not really sure what section this article should fall in, so I've placed it here for now. If a moderator thinks it fits in elsewhere, please move it! Thanks. :)

Anyway, I just thought this was an intriguing read. I usually don't put much thought into little details like shopping bags, so I find it interesting that many companies are shelling out figures like $.80/bag in order to have a trendy or convenient bag.

Never Mind What's in Them, Bags Are the Fashion
By MICHAEL BARBARO
Published: December 16, 2007

A team of designers at Saks Fifth Avenue envisioned “a piece of modern art” and hired a renowned graphic artist to create it. Their counterparts at Lord & Taylor demanded five prototypes, even traveling to a Korean factory to oversee manufacturing.

Over at Bergdorf Goodman, staff members held secretive deliberations that stretched late into the night for nine months.

The focus of all this scurrying was not this fall’s couture line or next spring’s resort collection.

It was shopping bags.

Once a flimsy afterthought in American retailing — used to lug a purchase home from the store, then tossed into the trash — the lowly, free store bag is undergoing a luxurious makeover.

From upscale emporiums to midprice chains, retailers are engaged in a heated competition to make the most durable, fashionable shopping bags. They are investing millions of dollars in new flourishes like plastic-coated paper (Macy’s and Juicy Couture) and heavy fabric cord handles (Abercrombie & Fitch and Scoop).

Behind the battle of the bags is a significant shift in behavior that has turned consumers into walking billboards for stores. In cities like New York, Chicago and Los Angeles, customers have begun treating shopping bags as disposable purses that can be reused for weeks, if not months, to carry laundry to the cleaners, books to the beach or lunch to the office.

But only the best bags make the cut. So stores, sensing a marketing opportunity, are racing to transform bare-bones bags into lavish, thick ones that will become free advertising.

“It’s an unspoken goal,” said Terron E. Schaefer, senior vice president for marketing at Saks, which just redesigned its bags to be sleeker and heftier. “We want people to keep the bag.”

Increasingly, they do. After making a purchase at Lord & Taylor a few weeks ago, Allana Cummings, 19, of Irvington, N.J., said, she quickly adopted the chain’s newly redesigned bag, with its eye-catching white color and seemingly indestructible paper, as “my second purse.”

“I can put everything I need for the day in here and it will never break,” she said, opening the bag to reveal several wrapped gifts, a short stack of books, an umbrella and her real purse, an expensive leather handbag.

At first blush, the trend of reusable shopping bags would seem at odds with the explosive growth of high-end handbags. But it turns out that some consumers are eager to walk around with a $1,000 Coach purse on one arm and the Coach shopping bag it came in on the other.

“I often prefer this to my leather handbag,” said Kay Scouller, 34, standing on a Manhattan subway platform with a used Coach shopping bag in hand, filled with a tube of moisturizer, a pair of sunglasses and a bottle of water.

For decades, American retailers regarded shopping bags as little more than a utilitarian necessity — and the bags looked the part, constructed from cheap, unembellished paper or plastic. But by the late 1970s, the sturdy bags used by small European luxury brands like Cartier, the jewelry maker, began to appear in the United States.

A handful of big American companies, like Avon, the cosmetics company, experimented with paper bags reinforced with a thin layer of plastic in the 1980s, a radical departure. But it was not until the last several years that luxury bags began to trickle down to the average consumer, as chains like Victoria’s Secret, Banana Republic and Swatch tried to ape their fast-growing luxury rivals.

“The new part of this equation is that mass-market brands that are not necessarily luxury are using these types of bags,” said Claude Roessiger, chief executive of Pak 2000, which designs and manufactures shopping bags for brands like Cartier, Bulgari and Ralph Lauren.

Many grocery chains now sell extra-thick versions of their regular bags and encourage their reuse to cut down on waste, but what stands out about the newest crop of retail bags is that, despite their heft, they remain free.

For consumers, the sudden emphasis on “reusability,” as retail executives call it, is creating a surprising new hierarchy. Interviews across New York City suggest, for example, that shoppers covet the heavy-duty plastic bags from Lululemon Athletica, the seller of yoga clothing, above the thin paper version provided by the luxury department store Bloomingdale’s.

Chains are scrambling to move up the bag hierarchy. A year ago, employees at Lord & Taylor decided that their bags had become a liability. “It was the thinnest, most inexpensively constructed bag you could offer — a true throwaway bag,” said the chief executive, Jane Elfers.

So the retailer asked David Lipman, a marketing executive, to help design a new bag. Over six months, Mr. Lipman and his staff spared no expense. They eventually settled on a rich, white canvaslike paper — Mr. Lipman would disclose no further details — and thick, synthetic handles.

Designers obsessed over every detail. The white exterior extends into the bag’s orange interior one-sixteenth of an inch, no more, no less, and the words Lord & Taylor are embossed, rather than printed, a less expensive technique.

As a result, each large Lord & Taylor bag costs roughly 80 cents, more than twice the industry average. But that investment has paid off, turning the bag into one of the most popular.

“It’s a gorgeous bag,” said Mozel Browne, 75, who said she started saving Lord & Taylor’s shopping bags since the redesign this fall. “I could honestly give it away as a gift.”

Lord & Taylor’s bags threaten to upstage those of its glossier rivals, like the ultrachic Bergdorf Goodman, whose traditional lavender bags, emblazoned with the image of well-dressed Park Avenue ladies, are thin and frail by comparison. Its handles, for example, are taped on, rather than threaded through the bag and tied into a knot, as they are at Lord & Taylor.

Not to be outdone, Bergdorf has spent nearly a year secretly redesigning its bags, which will be introduced to consumers in fall 2008. Its goal? “Something with greater longevity than the existing bag — a keep-me quality that does not feel disposable,” said Aidan Kemp, vice president for advertising at Bergdorf.

To ensure that the bags are fashionable, Bergdorf employees surreptitiously photographed one another across Manhattan, holding prototypes “to see what they look like on the street,” Mr. Kemp said. The bag’s new look is under wraps, but Mr. Kemp acknowledged that the famous Park Avenue ladies may disappear.

Bloomingdale’s also appears to be under pressure to upgrade its bags, whose design dates to the 1970s. The chain says it is developing a thicker reusable bag to join its lineup of thin paper ones, which bear phrases like “Medium Brown Bag.”

For Bloomingdale’s and Bergdorf, the redesigns may be costly, but missing out on free advertising from beefed-up bags could prove even costlier. Jenny Fenig, a 30-year-old event producer in Manhattan, has reused the same Lululemon shopping bag to shuttle gym clothes around the city for three months.

“I love this bag,” she said. “It’s become an extension of my purse.”
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Retailers are giving shopping bags a makeover, turning consumers into walking ads. At left, Lord & Taylor bags; center, a bag from Lululemon Athletica; at right, the Scoop bag. (Ph: Hiroko Masuike)


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Bags designed by David Lipman. Lord & Taylor pays 80 cents for each. (Ph: Hiroko Masuike)

Article and pictures from nytimes.com (http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/16/business/16bags.html).
 
brilliant article thanks :) It is interesting,I live in britain and I have seen this shift aswell. Bags from Allsaints and topshop (the "paper ones") Are seen regularly in the clutch of some trendsetter, in a way they are designer bags themselves I guess.
 
Top article. Thanks for posting, seanut.

I find it incredible that it's taken so long for retailers to pick up on this. It is, after all, an ingenious method of advertising.
 
Here's another tidbit I forgot to post from the article, comparing different bags side by side. (It's a large image, sorry.)


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great article...thanks for that seanut...:flower:

as an art director, i'm always holding onto tags, bags, boxes, etc...
i really like the bags from ruehl...
they even have cute mini-folders they put your receipt in...

i also love the new saks bags...
the design is very cool and graphic...
i use the small ones to carry my lunch in...

dustcakeboy...i totally agree...
it's such a simple thing...
i think it's really important to give shoppers a great user experience from when they enter a store through checkout...
i think it's great how at barneys, the sa will walk around from the cashwrap and hand you the bag with their card...
or putting your receipt in a little envelope, or wrapping your purchase in logo'ed tissue paper...
it's like getting a present to unwrap when you get home...
 
i really don't like the lord and taylor bag...

i mean...
they are supposed to be doing this HUGE makeover and relaunch and THAT is the best they could come up with...?!?!?!?
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pretty weak imo....:ermm:...
 
I agree softie. It looks like the same thing they've been doing for years.

I love the nap bags personally because they are SO sturdy. I've even used one once as luggage (i packed a delicate light fixture in it and checked it as luggage) and it held up so well. And I use their dustbags to hold toiletries in my bathroom :lol: But it certainly creates more prestige around a brand imo
 
thanks for the article seanut. It reminds me of when Nordstrom re-did their bags to the rope handles and silver thick paper with white lettering in order to compete w/ Saks and Neimans.

I recently got some flats at Steve Madden and was expecting a standard paperbag, but they gave me a huge fabric re-useable bag! Its black with long handles to fit over the shoulder w/a white SM logo on the side. I had heard that some stores were trying to go eco-friendly but had not experienced it first hand yet. The bag has really come in handy when I go grocery shopping or to the farmer's market and need to carry lots of stuff into the house at once.
 
when I lived in paris there was an apartment across the street from ours that used nice shopping bags as decoration, they were all hung on the wall in their dining room instead of a painting.

my mom and I used to love when they had the light on in that room so we could check out the pretty bags ^_^
 
I always save my boxes, tags, bags, dust covers, cards etc.

When we moved from Florida to Boston, my SO made me get rid of them all.

My Burberry boxes, bags, my Prada shoe dustcovers and boxes, my YSL boxes and bags etc.:cry:

The GStar bags are cool, they are this thick, sturdy fabric of some kind...totally reuseable.

Now that we are settled...its time to stock up again.:lol:
 
i hope you guys post pictures of bags/papers/boxes you've collected too :o
 

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