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Discussion in 'Designers and Collections' started by rebel, Oct 2, 2016.
Star of Hollywood Tarantula shirt, 1950s
Prada S/S 2018
Good catch! That was actually one of my favourite pieces of the Prada collection. But the Star of Hollywood looks even better!
The Star of Hollywood shirt is adorable. The Prada look is beyond hideous.
I can't believe Bergdorfs is actually selling that. It's grotesque!
and now virgil went to the same vintage rental place
and so did 'chakshyn' from current kiev fashion week, although they didn't have the original on hand it seems
Gaultier is, indeed, one of the most visionary and non-credited designers of our time. His work is stolen/copied over and over again.
and that red Gaultier jacket^ is inspired, I would say, by Victorian women's bodices/jackets (not sure what the were) over their big skirts (the silhouette) ... and mixed with the trend in little boys' sailor suits (the collars). And yes ... that is a little boy:
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Every designer, including Gaultier uses previous styles as inspiration.
True, nothing materializes out of thin air but Gaultier's piece looks nothing like his inspiration. It's a fantastic mix of several references to create something original that people hadn't seen until that point. Today's stylists like Abloh (and sometimes designers we admire like Ghesquiere, Simons and Philo) literally duplicate patterns.
Yes, but the talent lies in the ability to pick out those truly historical elements and to integrate them in a piece and context of a whole different era. In this case I'm sure Gaultier made his research (the victorian stuff), he really thought things out and was inventive in combining those elements into something so different and something that still speaks to us in 2018.
I can almost guarantee Virgil and the Vuitton team didn't do any research like that. Like was suggested earlier, they probably paid a visit to a vintage rental showroom to get that Gaultier jacket (or worse, Pinterest).
It's weird but for me Nicolas copying Gaultier is not the same as Virgil copying him.
I mean, Gaultier was one of Nicolas's idol. Nicolas used to work for him so it's natural that his aesthetic influenced him...Like with Margiela!
Nothing is really original but Nicolas has personal aesthetic and he managed to integrate the Gaultier in that.
I mean, Saint Laurent referenced the past and even designers like Dior, Balenciaga and Chanel.
The thing about Virgil is that i'm not even sure that he knows that it all comes from Gaultier. His collections are curated from various collections from the hottest designers today. Virgil is no different from Proenza Schouler.
I agree with dodencebt and rip_ian curtis: One thing is to draw inspiration other to copy/steal. Gaultier researched, designed and did a pattern combining various sources of inspiration. He actually did the work of a true designer.
Now Virgil... wow. He just changed the neckline. It's the exact same pattern otherwise. The length, the sleeves, the hem,... It's not even funny.
Plein rips off an entire SL look, even the boots! The new Zuhair?
YSL F/W 17 vs. PP F/W 18
See-through trench at Plein vs. Rykiel (not sure if anyone came up with this before).
F/W 18 vs. S/S 10
Fur straps on handbag at Plein vs. Dior
F/W 18 vs. S/S 04
Prada Fall 2002
Dior Pre-Fall 2015 vs. Tibi F/W 2018
Dior F/W 2015 vs. Dion Lee F/W 2018
Where have I seen those Dion Lee dresses before, besides Dior?
Celine S/S 2014?
this odlr dress reminds me of this one
Christopher Kane ss 2009
Margiela also did dresses in a similar type of mesh as the one in those Dior ones.