Paris F/W 2004 Men's Wear Schedule

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  1. ignitioned32

    ignitioned32 Mannikin

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    From firstview.com
     
  2. kit

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    HI ALL :flower:

    I , for one , am overjoyed to see Masaki Matsushima back !
    Will he still be as quirky and experimental as before , or will he play more safe ?
    I cannot wait for these new shows and the input given on TFS from those ' in the know ' !!! Thanks a million for the info , igni :flower:

    Regards KIT ;) ;) ;) ;)
     
  3. Scott

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    So,Xavier will be showing again.

    I forgot about Mattout and Rogosky. I hope they do some good stuff
     
  4. kit

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    HI again :flower:

    According to the fashion press , eg Fashion Wire Daily et al , Sebastien D Rodriguez is the one to watch !!

    I also have a soft spot for Sebastien Meunier . :heart:

    Who are Number Nine , by the way ? ( If you will excuse my ignorance ) .

    Yours KIT :innocent:
     
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    I'm excited for Raf, Dries, Bernhard, Vuitton, Xavier, and Helmut! :wub:
     
  6. Lena

    Lena etre soi-meme

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    i'm so looking forward to the mens shows :heart:

    thanks for the scedule igni :flower:
     
  7. PrinceOfCats

    PrinceOfCats Naturellement pulpeuse

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    Is Dior Monsieur still made? Are Christian Dior and Dior Homme separate lines? :wacko:
     
  8. kit

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    HI Prince of Cats :flower:

    CHRISTIAN DIOR MONSIEUR died when LVMH sacked Patrick Lavoix and hired Hedi Slimane to completely revamp the menswear . Hedi DID at first design a more ' conventioal ' collection for Dior , sold at Avenue Montaigne and other high-end stores , which was on more generous proportions , for the male physique , but this secondary collection was discontinued after a couple of seasons and merged with the main DIOR HOMME collection .

    CHRISTIAN DIOR MONSIEUR used to have shops in Spain and concessions in El Corte Ingles , the clothes made under licence in Spain , in the same way that CHRISTIAN DIOR MONSIEUR suits etc were made under licence in the UK by a Yorkshire tailoring firm , but this has long discontinued . I know that Christian Dior Monsieur was made for European and American markets by GFT in Italy , but DIOR HOMME have completely different manufacturers .

    Hope I've been of help ! :rolleyes:

    Regards KIT :flower:
     
  9. thomas28

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    Number Nine is Japan fashion brand and it's the first time to go Paris for runway show~
     
  10. kit

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    Thanks THOMAS28 :flower:
    You're a pal !!!

    KIT B)
     
  11. Acid

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    i want to see helmut lang.......i think im gonna cry
     
  12. PrinceOfCats

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    :shifty: you know exactly what i meant

    i wish i was there to see the :kiss: mod.......show :doh:
    :innocent: anyone with a backstage pass
     
  14. Lena

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    :heart: j'adore Helmut, hes getting sweeter and sweeter :blush:

    OT:
    hope you've read HLang' interview at selfService acid, if not, its a must read B)
     
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    That selfservice interview was great. A must read!
     
  16. thomas28

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    U are welcome~ ;)
     
  17. doo888

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    HI Prince of Cats :flower:

    CHRISTIAN DIOR MONSIEUR died when LVMH sacked Patrick Lavoix and hired Hedi Slimane to completely revamp the menswear . Hedi DID at first design a more ' conventioal ' collection for Dior , sold at Avenue Montaigne and other high-end stores , which was on more generous proportions , for the male physique , but this secondary collection was discontinued after a couple of seasons and merged with the main DIOR HOMME collection .

    Hope I've been of help ! :rolleyes:

    Regards KIT :flower: [/b][/quote]
    Hedi's (and Dior Homme's) first collection was in Fall 2001 named Solitaire right after he left YSL Rive Gauche.

    There was no secondary line/merging?! Dior Homme was something brand new after Monsieur was dropped.

    What i dont understand is how Galliano's Dior clothing is made in France, whilst Dior Homme is made in Italy. The first 2 seasons of Dior Homme were made in France but they stopped... :ninja:
     
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    HI Doo888 :flower: Quote :-

    " There was no secondary line/merging?! Dior Homme was something brand new after Monsieur was dropped. "

    DIOR HOMME was absolutely new , as you say , and CHRISTIAN DIOR MONSIEUR died the death , along with Patrick Lavoix .
    According , however , to Fashion Wire Daily Hedi DID design a more ' conservative ' collection when he first took over , in order to retain the more mature market , possibly .
    Whether it actually went on sale , I am not sure , but I am certain that I remember the report on this in FWD . It was not a diffusion line , as I remember , but a more ' mature ' one , to go on sale in the Avenue Montaigne flagship .

    If I am talking through my hat I apologise . :cry:

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    " What i dont understand is how Galliano's Dior clothing is made in France, whilst Dior Homme is made in Italy. The first 2 seasons of Dior Homme were made in France but they stopped... "

    France is exceedingly expensive for manufacture and a lot of factories have closed eg Mendes Who used to make all the clothes for Yves Saint Laurent . Maybe with longer runs as the DIOR HOMME collection became more popular , LVMH had to look to Italian factories with more production capacity . There is another thread on this forum about Galliano's collection selling out and the fact that it could have been made in small runs . Could be the same situation as with Hedi's first collections .

    Perhaps others here could put us right on these points . :(

    Regards KIT :innocent:
     
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    I am really looking forward to the men's shows this year!! Thank you for posting the schedule!! :flower:
     
  20. kit

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    HI doo888 :flower:

    I had further thoughts last night on this subject .

    I am pretty sure that this ' mysterious ' hedi collection was an adjunct to the main collection , and as I say , they , LVMH , could have had second thoughts about its being put into production .

    I imagine LVMH could have been envisaging the same situation , AT THE OUTSET of DIOR HOMME , as there is with GIORGIO ARMANI ( the signature line ) and the fact that there is also ARMANI CLASSICO ( the other top-end line for more mature men , equally expensive and luxurious , but less ' cutting -edge ') .

    If you go into the Giorgio Armani flagship on Sloane Street , MOST of what is stocked is ironically ARMANI CLASSICO ( I assume for the rich arab market ) and you have to really search for the signature pieces from the runway shows .
    I actually had to make a special order for this item as it had not been ordered for the a/w 02 stock , which I was surprised about .



    http://www.firstview.com/MENFall2002/GIORG...RMANI/P101.html



    As a point , in designer runway shows , what you see on the catwalk is ONLY the highly directional pieces - those which will get immediate press coverage .

    You find that there is much more in the way of pieces that can be ordered by the buyers , in the designers' showrooms ! Yves Saint Laurent Rive Gauche is a case in point here . Look at what is available in FLANNELS and HARVEY NICHOLS , for instance , and there are pieces on sale there that were NOT in the runway show .

    I have read on this forum , that the men's Dolce e Gabbana goes on sale in their showroom WEEKS before their runway show .
    Galliano for Dior is another case in point . His shows are a riot of spectacle with utterly unwearable outfits paraded , but everything is toned down and reinterpreted for what appears in the showroom on offer for the buyers to order for the CHRISTIAN DIOR boutiques .


    Again , other members here on TFS might have some input here . B)


    Regards KIT ;)
     

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