i definitely side with jeffrey. i believe angela's mom was purposely being difficult inorder to sabbatoge jeffrey. she was so unreasonable... he tried to work with her choosing colors that she liked. i don't believe her tears for one bit. i suspect some of the other moms/sisters probably didn't like their outfits (ie laura's mom), but they didn't bad mouth the design that way. it was only after she made those rude comments to tim... was when jeffrey let her have it.
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Not really defending Jeffrey here, he obviously has "issues" that are too complicated to be explained away here, but just looking at him today explains a good deal of his journey to the present.
I will say that I think Angela's is off her antidepressive meds. I'm not trying to be funny here. She is a woman with emotional problems and her issues combined with Jeffrey's... Not a good combo. I do think his dress.
Robert was aufed for his total boringness. He was warned previously, it was mentioned again last night.
I will say that I think Angela's is off her antidepressive meds. I'm not trying to be funny here. She is a woman with emotional problems and her issues combined with Jeffrey's... Not a good combo. I do think his dress.
Robert was aufed for his total boringness. He was warned previously, it was mentioned again last night.
jeffrey is mouthy in general. i think it was edited to create drama. both parties look bad. the mother looks like a manipulative bad sport, and jeffrey looks like he can't handle a difficult client. of course, there's no way he could win since the client wanted him to fail.
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I agree with all the above. They were sabotaging jeffrey. Look at the bonus video on Bravo concerning this challenge. The exchange with Robert/Vincent/Uli/jeffrey in the sewing room is about the funniest thing I have ever watched.
yes, i love the bonus footage on bravo. it really shows the designers' personalities. they are so funny....robert trying on the outfit that jeffrey designed for angela's mom.... and when they were teasing vincent about designing a hat for laura's mom or making her a long dress with no slits.
story from entertainment weekly, sorry if its been posted before!
Sew Addictive
Chic and creative challenges, kooky but talented contestants, and a secret weapon named Tim Gunn help ''Project Runway'' turn haute couture into addictive TV by Missy Schwartz
Nina Garcia was just settling into her seat on a flight from Rome, eager to take a nap, when the teenage girl sitting next to her recognized her as the tough-to-please judge from Project Runway. ''I was like, 'I need to rest!''' recalls Garcia, who spends her days working as Elle magazine's fashion director. ''She just wanted to talk for eight hours about Project Runway!''
So, it seems, does anybody else who's gotten hooked on Bravo's behind-the-seams reality series (airing Wednesdays at 10 p.m.). A competition that follows 15 budding designers as they spin sartorial gold out of everything from luxurious silk to recycled plastic, Runway has blossomed into an undeniable hit. After scoring its second consecutive Emmy nomination for Outstanding Reality-Competition Program, the show nabbed its best-ever ratings on Aug. 2, when 3.4 million viewers made it the most-watched broadcast in Bravo's history. ''It's exciting to create something that people actually enjoy,'' says exec producer and host Heidi Klum. Couch potatoes who never gave a hoot about hemlines and bias cuts are tuning in obsessively. And ''the celebrities who watch...,'' marvels judge Michael Kors. ''Marc Anthony was telling me that he and Jennifer Lopez love the show. I said, 'So Jennifer loves the show?' He said, 'No, we both love the show!'''
When two of the world's biggest stars are in a frenzy about a reality series, something is up. We think we've figured it out: Here are five reasons why we, like Garcia's chatty seatmate, can't get enough of Project Runway.
1. It never should have worked in the first place. Let's be honest: A reality show featuring unknown designers toiling at sewing machines doesn't exactly scream exciting on paper. But that's the genius of Project Runway, which has transformed the hokey stitch-and-b*tch trend into sexy drama. ''It's the democratization of fashion,'' says Garcia. ''It's the H&M's, the Targets, Project The Devil Wears Prada. The timing could not be better. Designers have become like rock stars.'' And that's just what exec producer Harvey Weinstein was banking on when he pitched the idea in 2003 as ''the sister to Project Greenlight,'' his critically acclaimed let's-make-a-movie reality series. ''People are fascinated with the creative process — especially how clothes are made,'' Weinstein says. ''I thought this could be great.''
Bravo went for it — on one condition. Runway could never devolve into ''people in black, talking about designing a gown with, you know, a birdcage and a clock woven into someone's Marie Antoinette wig,'' recalls Bravo president Lauren Zalaznick. She got her way, but there was still the matter of making that whole sewing thing riveting. Which brings us to...
2. It features the smartest, most creative challenges on TV. Fashion? Flighty? Not here. Each week, the Runway hopefuls tackle tasks that are innovative mind-benders. The producers — with input from Klum and the designers' dapper mentor, Tim Gunn (see No. 5) — dream up one- and two-day tasks that truly test contestants' artistic vision and practical skills. No matter what, they must always result in real, wearable clothing. ''We trick them with little twists so they get all discombobulated,'' says Klum giddily. Like making the designers create an outfit for each other's moms or sisters, or depriving them of actual fabric: Witness the season 3 premiere, when they busted up their apartments for materials, and an Aug. 16 trip to a New Jersey recycling plant, where they searched for usable components. Gunn, chair of fashion design at Manhattan's Parsons The New School for Design, is all for the thornier challenges. ''Something that really causes them to scratch their heads — that's when they surprise even themselves.''
3. The judges reward actual talent. Like most reality shows, Runway boasts its share of off-the-wall characters. Unlike most, it can truthfully call itself a meritocracy. Quips season 3 tattoo boy Jeffrey Sebelia, ''We're not eating cow's balls or having to survive in the jungle with one book of matches and a bottle of water.''
But how exactly does the judging work? Here's the rundown: Just as they would at a Dior show in Paris, the Runway judges (Garcia, Kors, Klum, and a rotating guest like Diane von Furstenberg) scribble down their opinions as each outfit hits the catwalk. ''I write my gut reaction — 'chic and simple,' 'wacky and kooky' — whatever it might be,'' says Kors. They then rate the designs on a 1-to-5 scale before handing their notes to the producers, who tally up the numerical scores. After a lengthy deliberation that takes into consideration such factors as past performance — and that can sometimes last up to four hours — the judges anoint a winner and a loser.
But hang on — what's the deal with that tantalizing end-of-show disclaimer: ''The judges considered both their scores and input from the Producers and Bravo in reaching their elimination decisions''? And isn't it sketchy that the judges don't even tally their own scores? Bravo senior VP of programming and production Andy Cohen says it's never a question of hanging on to a contestant for the sake of good TV. ''Last season, I got a ton of e-mails accusing us of keeping Santino [Rice] because of his personality,'' Cohen says. ''I'm sensitive to those accusations, but it's fashion. And fashion is incredibly subjective.'' Besides, argues Garcia, if the producers tried to interfere, ''there would be mutiny!'
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4. The contestants aren't pathetic, fame-seeking narcissists. Not all of them, anyway. According to Robert Best (a.k.a. the recently ousted Barbie designer), the grueling schedule weeds out those seeking a quick brush with pseudo-stardom. ''You're sleep-deprived and woken up at impossible hours,'' he says. ''You're not going to be like, 'Oooh, I'm here for the ride!''' And the working conditions are far from glamorous, explains redheaded ballbuster Laura Bennett, who was three months pregnant with her sixth child during the May-June shoot. ''You can't put the air-conditioning on [in the sewing room] because it messes with the sound. It's brutal. You can't be a ninny.''
Ah, but you sure can be nutty. Season 1's Wendy Pepper proudly backstabbed her rivals, and this go-round, we've suffered Vincent Libretti, who turned a basket into a hideous chapeau and later clashed with polarizing, rosette-obsessed designer Angela Keslar. ''I look like a horrible b*tch,'' sighs Keslar, ''but I'm just very strong-willed.'' Gunn says it's all par for the couture course. ''Creative people have bigger-than-life egos,'' he explains with a laugh. ''And some tame those egos better than others.''
5. Tim Gunn makes it work. Blunt but kind, suave and witty, Gunn is Runway's secret weapon — a breakout star who's also the most lovable mentor this side of Mr. Miyagi. ''Tim is a gentle, real person. He's like a father figure,'' says front-runner Michael Knight. On hand to help each contestant, the 53-year-old never holds back an opinion. ''I thought I'd be so scared of him,'' recalls pageant gown master Kayne Gillaspie. ''You saw the very first episode — Tim was like, 'We love you, but we hate your clothes.''' Still, notes Bennett, Gunn ''is good at not vomiting when you can tell he wants to. I should probably take a lesson from him.'' Why have all the Runway copycats failed? Because none of them — not CBS' Tommy Hilfiger–led The Cut, not WE's Style Me With Rachel Hunter — had Gunn power. ''I'm having a blast,'' says Gunn, whose hilarious tell-all podcasts on Bravotv.com are averaging almost 60,000 downloads weekly. ''I'm enjoying this now because it could go away as abruptly as it came.''
True, but given the rising ratings, Bravo probably won't be air-kissing its biggest hit goodbye anytime soon. The current season wraps in October, and Gunn says there's no limit to how long the series could run. ''I have 550 students in my department at Parsons,'' he adds slyly. Which, by our count, means fans are covered for at least the next 36 seasons.
Sew Addictive
Chic and creative challenges, kooky but talented contestants, and a secret weapon named Tim Gunn help ''Project Runway'' turn haute couture into addictive TV by Missy Schwartz
Nina Garcia was just settling into her seat on a flight from Rome, eager to take a nap, when the teenage girl sitting next to her recognized her as the tough-to-please judge from Project Runway. ''I was like, 'I need to rest!''' recalls Garcia, who spends her days working as Elle magazine's fashion director. ''She just wanted to talk for eight hours about Project Runway!''
So, it seems, does anybody else who's gotten hooked on Bravo's behind-the-seams reality series (airing Wednesdays at 10 p.m.). A competition that follows 15 budding designers as they spin sartorial gold out of everything from luxurious silk to recycled plastic, Runway has blossomed into an undeniable hit. After scoring its second consecutive Emmy nomination for Outstanding Reality-Competition Program, the show nabbed its best-ever ratings on Aug. 2, when 3.4 million viewers made it the most-watched broadcast in Bravo's history. ''It's exciting to create something that people actually enjoy,'' says exec producer and host Heidi Klum. Couch potatoes who never gave a hoot about hemlines and bias cuts are tuning in obsessively. And ''the celebrities who watch...,'' marvels judge Michael Kors. ''Marc Anthony was telling me that he and Jennifer Lopez love the show. I said, 'So Jennifer loves the show?' He said, 'No, we both love the show!'''
When two of the world's biggest stars are in a frenzy about a reality series, something is up. We think we've figured it out: Here are five reasons why we, like Garcia's chatty seatmate, can't get enough of Project Runway.
1. It never should have worked in the first place. Let's be honest: A reality show featuring unknown designers toiling at sewing machines doesn't exactly scream exciting on paper. But that's the genius of Project Runway, which has transformed the hokey stitch-and-b*tch trend into sexy drama. ''It's the democratization of fashion,'' says Garcia. ''It's the H&M's, the Targets, Project The Devil Wears Prada. The timing could not be better. Designers have become like rock stars.'' And that's just what exec producer Harvey Weinstein was banking on when he pitched the idea in 2003 as ''the sister to Project Greenlight,'' his critically acclaimed let's-make-a-movie reality series. ''People are fascinated with the creative process — especially how clothes are made,'' Weinstein says. ''I thought this could be great.''
Bravo went for it — on one condition. Runway could never devolve into ''people in black, talking about designing a gown with, you know, a birdcage and a clock woven into someone's Marie Antoinette wig,'' recalls Bravo president Lauren Zalaznick. She got her way, but there was still the matter of making that whole sewing thing riveting. Which brings us to...
2. It features the smartest, most creative challenges on TV. Fashion? Flighty? Not here. Each week, the Runway hopefuls tackle tasks that are innovative mind-benders. The producers — with input from Klum and the designers' dapper mentor, Tim Gunn (see No. 5) — dream up one- and two-day tasks that truly test contestants' artistic vision and practical skills. No matter what, they must always result in real, wearable clothing. ''We trick them with little twists so they get all discombobulated,'' says Klum giddily. Like making the designers create an outfit for each other's moms or sisters, or depriving them of actual fabric: Witness the season 3 premiere, when they busted up their apartments for materials, and an Aug. 16 trip to a New Jersey recycling plant, where they searched for usable components. Gunn, chair of fashion design at Manhattan's Parsons The New School for Design, is all for the thornier challenges. ''Something that really causes them to scratch their heads — that's when they surprise even themselves.''
3. The judges reward actual talent. Like most reality shows, Runway boasts its share of off-the-wall characters. Unlike most, it can truthfully call itself a meritocracy. Quips season 3 tattoo boy Jeffrey Sebelia, ''We're not eating cow's balls or having to survive in the jungle with one book of matches and a bottle of water.''
But how exactly does the judging work? Here's the rundown: Just as they would at a Dior show in Paris, the Runway judges (Garcia, Kors, Klum, and a rotating guest like Diane von Furstenberg) scribble down their opinions as each outfit hits the catwalk. ''I write my gut reaction — 'chic and simple,' 'wacky and kooky' — whatever it might be,'' says Kors. They then rate the designs on a 1-to-5 scale before handing their notes to the producers, who tally up the numerical scores. After a lengthy deliberation that takes into consideration such factors as past performance — and that can sometimes last up to four hours — the judges anoint a winner and a loser.
But hang on — what's the deal with that tantalizing end-of-show disclaimer: ''The judges considered both their scores and input from the Producers and Bravo in reaching their elimination decisions''? And isn't it sketchy that the judges don't even tally their own scores? Bravo senior VP of programming and production Andy Cohen says it's never a question of hanging on to a contestant for the sake of good TV. ''Last season, I got a ton of e-mails accusing us of keeping Santino [Rice] because of his personality,'' Cohen says. ''I'm sensitive to those accusations, but it's fashion. And fashion is incredibly subjective.'' Besides, argues Garcia, if the producers tried to interfere, ''there would be mutiny!'
[SIZE=-2] [/SIZE]
4. The contestants aren't pathetic, fame-seeking narcissists. Not all of them, anyway. According to Robert Best (a.k.a. the recently ousted Barbie designer), the grueling schedule weeds out those seeking a quick brush with pseudo-stardom. ''You're sleep-deprived and woken up at impossible hours,'' he says. ''You're not going to be like, 'Oooh, I'm here for the ride!''' And the working conditions are far from glamorous, explains redheaded ballbuster Laura Bennett, who was three months pregnant with her sixth child during the May-June shoot. ''You can't put the air-conditioning on [in the sewing room] because it messes with the sound. It's brutal. You can't be a ninny.''
Ah, but you sure can be nutty. Season 1's Wendy Pepper proudly backstabbed her rivals, and this go-round, we've suffered Vincent Libretti, who turned a basket into a hideous chapeau and later clashed with polarizing, rosette-obsessed designer Angela Keslar. ''I look like a horrible b*tch,'' sighs Keslar, ''but I'm just very strong-willed.'' Gunn says it's all par for the couture course. ''Creative people have bigger-than-life egos,'' he explains with a laugh. ''And some tame those egos better than others.''
5. Tim Gunn makes it work. Blunt but kind, suave and witty, Gunn is Runway's secret weapon — a breakout star who's also the most lovable mentor this side of Mr. Miyagi. ''Tim is a gentle, real person. He's like a father figure,'' says front-runner Michael Knight. On hand to help each contestant, the 53-year-old never holds back an opinion. ''I thought I'd be so scared of him,'' recalls pageant gown master Kayne Gillaspie. ''You saw the very first episode — Tim was like, 'We love you, but we hate your clothes.''' Still, notes Bennett, Gunn ''is good at not vomiting when you can tell he wants to. I should probably take a lesson from him.'' Why have all the Runway copycats failed? Because none of them — not CBS' Tommy Hilfiger–led The Cut, not WE's Style Me With Rachel Hunter — had Gunn power. ''I'm having a blast,'' says Gunn, whose hilarious tell-all podcasts on Bravotv.com are averaging almost 60,000 downloads weekly. ''I'm enjoying this now because it could go away as abruptly as it came.''
True, but given the rising ratings, Bravo probably won't be air-kissing its biggest hit goodbye anytime soon. The current season wraps in October, and Gunn says there's no limit to how long the series could run. ''I have 550 students in my department at Parsons,'' he adds slyly. Which, by our count, means fans are covered for at least the next 36 seasons.
kisa said:What does everyone think the next suprise will be? I'm thinking it might be mesnwear!
I've been saying this since Season One ......................they should do Flight Attendant uniforms.
So thinking they are "jetsetters".................I think that is going to be the challenge????
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My husband and I watched the show on Tivo last night and fully enjoyed it from start to finish. I was fascinated with the challenge they had this time - now that was a challenge! I'm not sure why they're only given one day to complete the garment, how is this meant to be any less work than the dog challenge, for example?
I haven't seen additional footage or heard the podcasts, so I don't know about what went on behind the scenes, but I could really see where Angela's mum was coming from. Women of that age and background (everyday middle-aged women), who clearly have no sense or understanding of couture, have a very definite idea of what they like in terms of clothing and what they think looks good on them, and, in cases of excess weight, can be extremely self-conscious of their bodies and desperate to hide them. I know because my Mum is exactly like that. I wanted to give her a makeover when she came to visit me in the States a few months ago, and it was an exercise in frustration - I literally ended up in tears because she said no to everything.
Now, Angela's mum was perhaps instructed by her daughter to sabotage Jeffrey's work, but I could also see her being quite uncomfortable to voice any concerns to someone who may have come across as rather aloof and dissatisfied with the model he ended up with.
In any case, I agree with the posters who said he behaved terribly, and it was unacceptable. However, this is not a standard client-designer situation, he is here to win something that could really change his life and his business, so much more is at stake for him than simply pleasing one difficult client. So from that perspective, I can see why he let manners fall by the wayside.
Unfortunately, the garment he produced was a total disaster, and what's up with the black sleeveless jacket on top of a dark purple dress? Those two colours clearly don't work together, surely he knew that??
I'm not sure why everyone is so excited about Uli's pattern combinations. While they look good, this is hardly revolutionary work. Any high street clothing chain this summer had plenty of selections where you had pattern clashes on the same garment. The brand Boden uses this as a signature even (http://www.bodenusa.com/c.asp?segid=6&segname=Women).
One last thing I wanted to say, am I the only one who thinks Heidi's shrill voice is super annoying? When she first became known as a model, I actually found her look and smile delightful, but I've seen her so much that I'm sick of her by now...
I haven't seen additional footage or heard the podcasts, so I don't know about what went on behind the scenes, but I could really see where Angela's mum was coming from. Women of that age and background (everyday middle-aged women), who clearly have no sense or understanding of couture, have a very definite idea of what they like in terms of clothing and what they think looks good on them, and, in cases of excess weight, can be extremely self-conscious of their bodies and desperate to hide them. I know because my Mum is exactly like that. I wanted to give her a makeover when she came to visit me in the States a few months ago, and it was an exercise in frustration - I literally ended up in tears because she said no to everything.
Now, Angela's mum was perhaps instructed by her daughter to sabotage Jeffrey's work, but I could also see her being quite uncomfortable to voice any concerns to someone who may have come across as rather aloof and dissatisfied with the model he ended up with.
In any case, I agree with the posters who said he behaved terribly, and it was unacceptable. However, this is not a standard client-designer situation, he is here to win something that could really change his life and his business, so much more is at stake for him than simply pleasing one difficult client. So from that perspective, I can see why he let manners fall by the wayside.
Unfortunately, the garment he produced was a total disaster, and what's up with the black sleeveless jacket on top of a dark purple dress? Those two colours clearly don't work together, surely he knew that??
I'm not sure why everyone is so excited about Uli's pattern combinations. While they look good, this is hardly revolutionary work. Any high street clothing chain this summer had plenty of selections where you had pattern clashes on the same garment. The brand Boden uses this as a signature even (http://www.bodenusa.com/c.asp?segid=6&segname=Women).
One last thing I wanted to say, am I the only one who thinks Heidi's shrill voice is super annoying? When she first became known as a model, I actually found her look and smile delightful, but I've seen her so much that I'm sick of her by now...
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^Aside from the voice. Who picks out HER clothes? I think they are awful. She wears minis and boots together that make her look trashy. I don't get it...
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JEFFREY is an a**whole ..period! you dont mess with someone's mother like that i mean cmon put yourself in her position and to be embarrassed on national television is so f***D up u know .....besides he is the one acting like a little baby with his rude mouth while his mother tries to shut him off....seriously i suggest he goes back to the streets cause he still hasnt amazed me with his crazy shredded pattern dresses...and btw he does highwaisted cloth too....and im glad vincent won but uli did great too.
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haha you are awesome and so so right.watchnotch said:
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I'm happy they did real women on this show, they are the norm and most of the girls the models size can't afford a jacket or dress that the designers on the show would make if they won. And if Jefrey were in a situation with a client like that in real life he would have to grin and bear it. He needs to grow up. And what's all this bull crap I've read earlier about the women being to big and "hefty" models, that's so narrow minded and one of the worst things about fashion. You know how wrong it is to say that or think that when you are designers. Larger women's lines and collections shouldn't be a fringe market and shouldn't be a specialty.
!!!And I have perfect outfit for Anglea's mom!!!!
1)black flat front trousers in wool or cashmere which would look really smooth and would elongate the body.
2) gold or red silk/or charmuese blouse that fits close to the waist but doesn't make her look frumpy or show her love handles. ( the blouse could be embroidered with a floral pattern)
3) and a charcoal or grey wool/or tweed coat; long like an overcoat or trench with fir (brown) lining the cuff and going down a dart in the back elongating the silhouette.
and i hope the next challenge deals wih something high fashion and I also hope the designers take risks instead of staying in their little boxes of simple clothes.
!!!And I have perfect outfit for Anglea's mom!!!!
1)black flat front trousers in wool or cashmere which would look really smooth and would elongate the body.
2) gold or red silk/or charmuese blouse that fits close to the waist but doesn't make her look frumpy or show her love handles. ( the blouse could be embroidered with a floral pattern)
3) and a charcoal or grey wool/or tweed coat; long like an overcoat or trench with fir (brown) lining the cuff and going down a dart in the back elongating the silhouette.
and i hope the next challenge deals wih something high fashion and I also hope the designers take risks instead of staying in their little boxes of simple clothes.
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ilovemodels said:
True!
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Yea, I think so too... I think someone metioned that may actually 'jetset' and go travel somewhere.
At the end of Tim's podcast he says the challenge is about "International Jettsetters" and "We're going to take a little trip".
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esile said:
the stuff in the extra footage is almost better than the real episodes! I love hearing Uli in the extras, she's quite funny actually. And Vincent, crazy vision and everything, actually comes across as a decent guy.
It kind of just highlights how the episodes are edited to create situations. If you just watch the episodes, you think Jeffrey and Laura hate each other, but then in the extras there is a part where they're chatting over Jeffrey's newspaper dress and Laura is really helping him out and giving tailoring suggestions. It's quite endearing.
