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from the wall street journal...

Crossing Fashion's Thin White Line

[FONT=Times New Roman,Times,Serif]Criticism About a Lack of Ethnic Diversity on Runways Puts Attention on Casting Directors

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Earlier this week, fashion designer Peter Som and casting director Jennifer Venditti stood in his office studying five photos of pale, thin teenage girls with dirty-blond hair.

"Weird," said Mr. Som, scanning the teens in the photos. "They're all the same."

Ms. Venditti, who is hired by designers to cast models for their fashion shows, noted that "there are so many of these types. You could do a whole show with them." She advised Mr. Som to pick no more than two of the five blondes to appear in his fashion show Monday.

Amid recent public criticism about the lack of ethnic diversity on fashion runways, the role of casting director is drawing more attention as New York's fashion week gets under way today. In the past, designers chose the models themselves. But now that designers are required to produce multiple collections, make media appearances and court celebrities, the job of casting director is usually outsourced to specialists like Ms. Venditti. Her specialty: navigating models' competing schedules, negotiating with frantic designers and fighting with agents.

Bethann Hardison, a former model who has been organizing efforts to raise awareness about the lack of color among runway models, says the growing power of casting directors, many of whom cast multiple shows, is part of the problem. "Everybody gets into this Stepford Wives mentality," says Ms. Hardison, a black woman who modeled in the '70s, when there was a big demand for black models. She notes that designers now all are looking to hire many of the same models, who tend to be white and very thin.

In response to the recent exposure of the issue in the media after Ms. Hardison's efforts, the Council of Fashion Designers of America has been lobbying designers to hire a broader range of models this fashion week. In a letter sent to designers, modeling agents and casting directors on Jan. 9,

CFDA President Diane von Furstenberg encouraged industry players to create fashion shows "that are truly multicultural" and to embrace "whole groups of people no matter their race or color," according to a copy of the letter. Steven Kolb, the CFDA's executive director, said, "We are reminding people of positive behavior."

Just who is responsible for diversity on the runway depends on whom you ask. Casting directors say they work for the designers, so if the designers decide ethnic models don't fit their aesthetic, they don't hire them. Designers gripe that they would use more minority models, but the agencies don't send any "good" ones. And the modeling agencies say they aren't scouting and developing many minority models because the market hasn't been demanding their services.

A designer's goal with an expensive fashion show is to keep attention on his or her clothes, not the models. That's why, many designers privately explain, they don't like to hire distinctive-looking models, either ethnically or otherwise. But the public concern has put so much pressure on the industry that some say they have to change.

"The tricky thing about this business is that [designers and casting directors] can always say it's a matter of personal and aesthetic freedom," says Roman Young, an agent at Elite Model Management. "You wonder, 'Are they racist or are they just dumb?'" Mr. Young says he hasn't been aggressively scouting models of color because, until now, designers haven't demanded them. Very young, newly scouted models are highly in demand every season since the market likes fresh, unknown faces.
African-American models like Iman and Naomi Campbell broke through the race barrier long ago. And several Asian, Latina and black models routinely appear on the runways. Chanel Iman, a 16-year-old black model, is particularly in demand this season.

But nearly everyone in the fashion industry acknowledges that minority representation on the runways, as well as in high-fashion advertising, doesn't approximate the general population. The lack of minorities in high fashion contrasts with a noticeable increase in the casting of ethnic models in print and TV commercials, as well as in television and movies.

For casting director Ms. Venditti, the recent conversations about ethnicity have emboldened her to push harder for diversity this season. When one of her client's stylists said she didn't need to book a second black model because they already had one, Ms. Venditti says she told her, "They're both beautiful. Why can't you have two?"

At Mr. Som's casting call this week, he explained that his fall collection was inspired by the social outcasts captured in the photographs of Diane Arbus. He was seeking models with a "loopy and loony" vibe, he said.
After casting the two blondes, Mr. Som asked Ms. Venditti how many ethnic models were on the roster. She told him there were four -- two black and two Asian -- out of a then-selected cast of 18. "I do not want an all-white cast," he says. "But there's always room for improvement."

Ms. Venditti, now 35 years old, once modeled in a fashion show for the local Saks Fifth Avenue near where she grew up. But when a scout from the John Casablancas modeling school began calling her house and leaving messages, she never returned the calls, explaining now that she preferred to be in charge of shaping the image, not the image itself. She moved to New York, working first at KCD, a fashion-show production company and then as a free-lance stylist.

She started her own company, JV8 Inc., in 1998. For her first casting job, she found a homeless woman and a local band for a photo shoot in W magazine. Advertisers like Gap and Benetton began calling to request her services.

Ms. Venditti quickly developed a reputation for finding unusual characters for modeling jobs. For a photo shoot in Detroit, fashion photographer Bruce Weber asked Ms. Venditti to bring him a local guy to appear alongside supermodel Kate Moss in a fashion spread for W magazine's September 2006 issue. Ms. Venditti camped outside a high-school prom at Detroit's Lewis Cass Technical High School. The following morning, she presented Mr. Weber with photos of a tall Puerto Rican student in a tuxedo. "I thought, 'Wow, this guy is so beautiful,'" Mr. Weber recalls. When Ms. Venditti informed him that the student was a female, Mr. Weber decided to use her in the shoot instead of a young man.

As for whether the industry will ever change, Ms. Venditti says it's all about whether racial diversity becomes the latest fashion trend. "In general, [the industry] is a bunch of followers," she says. But "the conversation has started."
 
You can already see a change in the shows so far. I've seen so many Asian faces, and more black models than usual. A good improvement, hopefully we'll see more!
 
I think the fashion industry is starting to have more black and asian models so that is good! Really important shows like Jean Paul Gaultier, Valentino and Christian Dior are using Chanel Iman and Karl Lagerfeld is using Asian models. I hope there will be more diversity.
 
A designer's goal with an expensive fashion show is to keep attention on his or her clothes, not the models. That's why, many designers privately explain, they don't like to hire distinctive-looking models, either ethnically or otherwise.

very interesting. i think it is important to find a balance between the wearer and the wearee. In the fashion world, the models are nearly as important as the clothes. Designers need to be willing to break the model and hire models who are a little left of center, or who stand out in a physically unique way.
 
interesting article. of course new york is changing with the help of DVF and many others, but we'll have to wait and see if there's any improvement of diversity in milan and paris.

and i've seriously stopped watching the calvin klein shows, although some of my favorite models are constantly in them, more of my favorite ethnic models aren't. :(
 
I've noticed that while some smaller name designers are really stepping up and using a variety of models, the bigger shows almost exclusively use white models :doh:
 
While I think we should hire models based on their ability and not skin color (which is why I partly shrugged Naomis claims as stemming from her huge ego) the mere fact that we have comments like this:

When one of her client's stylists said she didn't need to book a second black model because they already had one, Ms. Venditti says she told her, "They're both beautiful. Why can't you have two?"

is horrible. There is a huge problem. :(
 
i am also excited to see the changes on the runway this season...
i love the diversity i'm seeing, but like happytrail said, i'm also anxious to see what happens in milan and paris...

the article above is a good one because it focuses on the casting agents and their role in deciding who is cast in what shows...
 
While I think we should hire models based on their ability and not skin color (which is why I partly shrugged Naomis claims as stemming from her huge ego) the mere fact that we have comments like this:
. :(

I agree, why should designers hire models that they think are not so good in their view, just because they are Black, Asian or whatever.
Now they are in an eastern European Mode, in no time they will change the record.

If P.Diddy wants to use just black models I see nothing wrong with it also, his fashion show, he can pick whoever he wants

And Naomi should just shut up, a person that her her name embroidered in her maids uniforms like they were their possessions, is not exactly the person I would want to hear about equality.
 
I agree, why should designers hire models that they think are not so good in their view, just because they are Black, Asian or whatever.
Now they are in an eastern European Mode, in no time they will change the record.

That said, some of these "white" models suck, so they don't have much ability to model.
 
How about short people...short people are born short..and they cannot set foot on a runway ..unless your last name is Kardashian that is
 
I agree, why should designers hire models that they think are not so good in their view, just because they are Black, Asian or whatever.

The point is not the hiring of models who aren't good enough, the point is that they don't hire models of color at all regardless of their qualifications and ability. Its not as though there are a host of girls who just aren't up to snuff that are complaining. Its that there are people who are just as good as the popular caucasian models who never get a chance because of the color of their skin. I think what people want is for designers/casting agents to keep an open mind when it comes to casting - they can still execute the look and feel of their collections while remaining inclusive. I find it a little hard to believe that across the board there just aren't enough good non-white models and that is why the girls aren't getting cast.

Naomi Campbell speaks out because Naomi can speak out. She has the luxury of saying what she wants without fear of retribution since her status within the industry is untouchable. She could never walk a runway again and she'd still be a supermodel. Other people can't speak out on issues like this because they don't have that privilege - if they say something then they're not going to get work.

 
^i agree. i'm sure for every alleged "no good" ethnic model casting directors/designers turn down, they're missing several other girls who could possibly appeal to their aesthetic, eager & hungry for the chance to work.
 
That said, some of these "white" models suck, so they don't have much ability to model.

Well the problem is, that your opinion, clearly is not the designers opinion. Who's good who's bad is always going to be up to the individual.
 


The point is not the hiring of models who aren't good enough, the point is that they don't hire models of color at all regardless of their qualifications and ability. Its not as though there are a host of girls who just aren't up to snuff that are complaining. Its that there are people who are just as good as the popular caucasian models who never get a chance because of the color of their skin. I think what people want is for designers/casting agents to keep an open mind when it comes to casting - they can still execute the look and feel of their collections while remaining inclusive. I find it a little hard to believe that across the board there just aren't enough good non-white models and that is why the girls aren't getting cast.



There we go again, being a good or a bad models is subjective.It's impossible to measure the quality of a model. Designers do not think they are good enough , they do not cast them.
There are lack of Mediterranean women in the catwalk also and they are white, i do not think people should be given an unfair advantage to make the catwalk more inclusive.
I'm against quotes in any area of life.

I'll give you an example I would never cast Chanel,Do not like her as model simple as, I would chose all this well known eastern European girls ahead of her in no time, but If i had to chose between Agyness or her I would chose her. She is simply better.
 
There we go again, being a good or a bad models is subjective.It's impossible to measure the quality of a model. Designers do not think they are good enough , they do not cast them.
There are lack of Mediterranean women in the catwalk also and they are white, i do not think people should be given an unfair advantage to make the catwalk more inclusive.

I don't think there is an unfair advantage at all. There are still very few non-white models, its not as though Sasha and Lily are being denied jobs as a result of the inclusion of minority models. No one is setting up quotas - there is no system in place to enforce such things on the industry. Also if the reasoning is that all these girls weren't good enough then why weren't they good enough? What exactly is it that makes them the lesser choice in the eyes of casting / designers?

I just don't believe that if an agency sends out a host a ethnic models (which they usually don't since by now they know that the client either requests all specific look or they know the girls aren't going to get cast anyway) that there aren't one or two girls in that group who are just as good as any other model.

And not to take things political but the issue of race is not one of physicality. Its deeper than that - race is a social and cultural issue, not merely a subset of physical difference.

And yes I think that the lack of Mediterranean models is bad too, I think the lack of models who aren't size 0 is a bad thing, more short models? That would be great too. The look right now is too homogenous and that is bad for everyone - black, white, purple, green.

Sometimes I just don't get it, almost every other industry on the planet understands that diversity is a positive thing to be strived for and fashion is still stuck in the stone ages. There is almost a purposeful naivete surrounding this in an attempt to hold on to the status quo. As far as I'm concerned if 9 out of 10 casting directors had their way every show would be reedy Eastern European girls with the same exact face and honestly almost every show is. The problem is that right now good means fitting into that look and if you don't it you won't get cast.

Les_Sucettes, you're entitled to your opinion but I just can't agree with you. Its frustrating that the negative aspects of this are being focused on as this isn't something that positively affects only one group. Yes its Naomi Campbell complaining but this is not an issue that is only about black people or even just about minorities. This is something that could potentially be good for the entire industry.

I wouldn't cast Chanel either. Even versus Agyness. I don't think its about coming down to a caucasian model vs. a non-caucasian model and going "Oh well we have to fill our quota with our token black person so throw her in the show." No one wants that. I know I don't want that. I want them to go "Hey this girl is gorgeous! She's something different and she would look great on our runway. Lets put her in the campaign with Sasha!" All I'm asking for is an open mind as to what constitutes beauty or what makes a good model. There are positive things that can come from it.

This season Hermes went in a different direction and cast an Indian model in their campaign. It wasn't an example of filling a quota - it was picking the right girl for the job and the ads turned out amazingly. When Liya opened Balenciaga in 05 it didn't hurt anyone take away from the allure of the house. Tom Ford used to send all sorts of women down the runway for Gucci and it was great. I don't know how else I can stress that this isn't going to be detrimental for there to be a bit more difference within the industry.
 


I don't think there is an unfair advantage at all. There are still very few non-white models, its not as though Sasha and Lily are being denied jobs as a result of the inclusion of minority models. No one is setting up quotas - there is no system in place to enforce such things on the industry. Also if the reasoning is that all these girls weren't good enough then why weren't they good enough? What exactly is it that makes them the lesser choice in the eyes of casting / designers?

I just don't believe that if an agency sends out a host a ethnic models (which they usually don't since by now they know that the client either requests all specific look or they know the girls aren't going to get cast anyway) that there aren't one or two girls in that group who are just as good as any other model.

And yes I think that the lack of Mediterranean models is bad too, I think the lack of models who aren't size 0 is a bad thing, more short models? That would be great too. The look right now is too homogenous and that is bad for everyone - black, white, purple, green.

As far as I'm concerned if 9 out of 10 casting directors had their way every show would be reedy Eastern European girls with the same exact face and honestly almost every show is. The problem is that right now good means fitting into that look and if you don't it you won't get cast.

Les_Sucettes, you're entitled to your opinion but I just can't agree with you. Its frustrating that the negative aspects of this are being focused on as this isn't something that positively affects only one group.

This season Hermes went in a different direction and cast an Indian model in their campaign. It wasn't an example of filling a quota - it was picking the right girl for the job and the ads turned out amazingly. When Liya opened Balenciaga in 05 it didn't hurt anyone take away from the allure of the house. Tom Ford used to send all sorts of women down the runway for Gucci and it was great. I don't know how else I can stress that this isn't going to be detrimental for there to be a bit more difference within the industry.

I cannot agree with you the designer has the right to chose any model he wants,all white if he feels like it, all black, short, skinny. It doesn't bother me at all, after that I will make my decision as consumer. But first It's their choice, they prefer some models they have to exclude others. i stopped buying stuff from some brands because I didn't like their vision, it's their bet first, sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't.
You say that you are against quotes but that exactly what you are proposing, why would I have a catwalk full of women they were not my choice just for the sake for the sake of being politically correct? I do not get it.

I would have to be extremely naive not to agree with you that some brands HAVE to choose white models in their campaigns and the politics behind this choices is something to worry about. But in my opinion everything has to be seen has individual cases, this thing as not enough certain type of models in the catwalk in general for me is totally not the question. I should not be forced has a designer to chose a certain type of women and that includes white.

And i'm sorry I cannot really pay attention to absolutely nothing that someone like Naomi has to say.
 
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