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so they got back together (we'll not really, two are new members)
the point is they are back together and produced a new album, which isn't so great :innocent:

but at least that means they will be touring, and i for one can't wait to see them again so they can play some of the classic pumpkins songs.

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I can't believe there was no thread until just now! Thanks for creating it, dorien!

I was so excited to download my Zeitgeist pre-order from iTunes, but I really don't care for most of the album. :ermm:

SP has been my all-time favorite band since the 3rd grade... but disappointment sums up my feelings on the Pumpkins post-break up. I think Billy should have left the band and its legendary status alone.

That said, I can't wait to see them at Braden Auditorium. I think it'll help me recapture my love for the good ol' days. :wub:
 
hey novella

i pre-ordered the album too, (well, my sister did)

weren't we supposed to get a code for pre-sale tickets?
that's the main reason we bought the album.
:lol:
 
Hi dorien. :smile:

Yes we were. That's why I pre-ordered the iTunes version. :wink:

The Ticketmaster password was e-mailed to me last night. Now I have to be around at 10 AM tomorrow to get the tickets.

Did you have any problems downloading the pre-order? It seems like a lot of people were having trouble yesterday. I did at first, but I was able to get around it by clicking on the link in the email stating that the pre-order was ready.

I have to say that I'm disappointed that there are 5 different versions of Zeitgeist out there! It's the polar opposite of Machina II/the friends & enemies of modern music. Guess that's the modern music industry for you! :rolleyes:
 
This thread only has... 5 replies? :ninja:
I loved Zeitgeist. It reminds me a lot of Machina, which I adore endlessly.
 
The Smashing Pumpkins were my second favorite band after Nirvana..but I am pretty upset about this recent "reunion" because its just not the real pumpkins in my eyes..its pretty much just zwan all over again...
 
Zwan was weird because it just seemed like Billy was faking all that happiness. Turns out he was.
 
i had great expectations for this album, but i was slightly disappointed.
 
I like the album in general, I don't think it could have lived up to the hype.
 
novella,

i didn't have trouble d/l the album from itunes but i had the worst trouble getting pre-sale tickets. for those who pre-ordered the album we were supposed to get 4 tickets pre-sale for the tour.

since they are not coming to Houston, we are going up to Dallas...someone threw a shoe at Billy last time he was here, so i guess he won't becoming down here anymore....


i couldn't find 4 tickets together through Ticketmaster so we had to buy 2 seats here and 2 seats there. oh well....
 
i soo looove the smashing pumpkins! ive loved them forveer.
my dad knows them :D long story
 
I'm much more into their older songs, especially the ballads! They all make me feel so nostalgic. So, Zeitgeist didn't do much for me, with the exception of '7 Shades of Black'. :blush: I have to admit that I wasn't getting my hopes too high for their newest release... since D'Arcy and James left.
 
Hm i'm the opposite to you guys - i never have got into their older stuff but i can't stop listening to 'Tarantula' :heart:. Maybe one day i'll listen to more of theirs..
 
Zeitgeist is f'ing amazing. It reassured for me that Billy is Smashing Pumpkins and Smashing Pumpkins is billy.

United States is f'ing sick.

Ive got tickets for Red Rocks.. Not sure who I am taking yet.. haha... Anyone itching to go?
 
Glad to see a thread for SP exist at tfs, though it seems silent now..
I'm a huge fan of James Iha so I much prefer the former SP and don't get their latest album 'til now.
 
This thread's so quiet!
I missed the opportunity to see them last year... :(

Anyways, here's an interview with Billy.

Last week, the Smashing Pumpkins announced that they'll be releasing remastered versions of their albums over the course of the next three years, starting this fall with 1991's Gish, 1993's Siamese Dream and the 1994 compilation Pisces Iscariot. They've also started work on a separate new album, Oceania, to be released this fall. The band is simultaneously working on another album, Teargarden by Kaleidyscope, that they started in late 2009.

Singer/guitarist Billy Corgan opened up to Rolling Stone about the upcoming reissues, Oceania and whether the Pumpkins' original line-up will ever reunite.

What kind of bonus material will be on the upcoming reissues?
EMI would like a bonus disc of material. I think what it's going to have to be is a balance between some of the better B-sides that somebody who bought Gish back in the day wouldn’t be familiar with. I want it to be a document about the materials that surrounded the records, so if you're a fan of that record, you kind of get more of that record. But I want to be really selective and not just put out anything. I want it to be almost like a nice mix tape – if you're a fan of Gish, then the Gish bonus disc would have some really cool stuff to listen to that's in that period.

Do any periods have more unreleased material to choose from than others?
For the first album, there are something like 30 demos from even before the album was made. So a lot of that stuff needs to be remixed, and there's a lot of good versions of things and unheard stuff. The second album, not as much, so I'm probably going to have to dig more in my home demos.

Will there be previously unheard songs?
I've gone on some message boards to see what fans are saying, and they think they've heard everything and they haven't. There's a lot of stuff we have that no one's ever heard.

I've always thought you were an underrated guitarist, specifically on the Pumpkins' early albums and songs like "Starla."
My father was a guitar player, and I was raised with a super high standard of what good guitar playing was. I'd be in the living room practicing, and he'd walk by and shake his head, like, "That ain't gonna fly." So when I came into indie music, I had already been playing serious heavy metal/Yngwie Malmsteen solos. When I first started playing in front of alternative crowds, they were like, "What's with the solos?" It was probably because I came from a metal background of practicing and my father's very jaundiced eye about my ability, and wasn't really influenced by the alternative mindset about guitar, which was "Don’t try too hard."

I always thought Kurt Cobain was the perfect embodiment of the great alternative guitar player. He was a really great guitar player, but when he got to the solo, he played the "I can't really play" solo – even though he could totally play. I was the guy who wanted to play the ripping Queen lead; I didn't want to do the "I can't play" solo.

What can fans expect from Oceania?
My friends said that it reminds them of what they always liked about the Pumpkins, but it sounds fresh. It has a familiarity to it, which is kind of hard to put your finger on it, but at the same time, it doesn't sound like, "Oh, it's the same."

Are there any musicians you have not played with yet that you would like to?
Ritchie Blackmore would be a dream. I'd be afraid to approach him, but I keep waiting for that right moment where I think, "Can I call Ritchie Blackmore up and ask him to play on this?" As I've grown older, Ritchie Blackmore keeps going up in my eyes as a guitar player. I put him up there in Hendrix territory at this point in my life. Really love Robin Trower as well. I've always talked to Tony Iommi about maybe it would be the right thing as well. Tony is just my "ultimate" – I've ripped no one off more than Tony.

Would you ever consider working with Gish/Siamese Dream producer Butch Vig again?
Oh yeah. I love Butch and we have a very good relationship. I'd love to. He's probably one of the only people I'd get in the studio with again. [Laughs] Butch is really lovely to work with – he's a drummer, which always gave him a real advantage as a producer, because he always thought drums out. Most great records really start with the drums.

Could the original Pumpkins line-up ever reunite?
No. That's just one of those things that are never going to happen. If you don't see somebody for a while, there's the old thing, "Absence makes the heart grow fonder." Well, we haven't had absence. The things that have happened between us in the interim haven't been good. There's been lawsuits and lots of stupid stuff. It's only made it worse. If it was bad before, it's really bad now. Jimmy [Chamberlin] and I aren't enemies – he's just off doing what he wants to do, as he should. There's not super bad blood between me and Jimmy that we'd never get on stage again. But I cannot in any way, shape, or form ever envision standing on a stage, playing music again with James [Iha] and D'arcy [Wretzky]. I just don't see any situation where that would be possible.

Care to clear this up once and for all - was current Pumpkins bassist Nicole Fiorentino one of the children on the cover of Siamese Dream?
[Laughs] I can't divulge that information…

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